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David Spicer - 25 Dec 2005 10:53 GMT My cat keeps leaving 'remains' all over the house, apart from preventing access, any ideas to cure the problem.Maybe a 'bell' collar would be the answer, but I'm at my wits end to find a solution
---MIKE--- - 25 Dec 2005 11:52 GMT >>I'm at my wits end to find a solution Keep the cat inside.
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>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') JackKetch@otmale.com - 25 Dec 2005 13:16 GMT Keep the cat inside.
That's just cruel! Why bother having a pet, if you make them subservient to your instincts rather than letting them keep their own?
---MIKE--- - 25 Dec 2005 13:58 GMT >>That's just cruel! >>Why bother having a pet, if you make >> them subservient to your instincts >> rather than letting them keep their >> own? In my case it would be more cruel to let them out to be killed by predators. I lost Ike that way six years ago. My cats are perfectly happy to stay in where it's warm and safe.
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>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') NMR - 25 Dec 2005 17:25 GMT Jack either you are uninformed or joking around. I going with uninformed letting a cat outside is almost as saying I don't care about my cat with all the dangers associated with civilized life a outside cat is nothing but a target. As in the cat eating mice it might be natural but with people nowadays the mice might be covered in pesticides or some other poison that people use to kill them.
As for how to deal with the cat killing mice call an exterminator fix the problem entry points simple answer
http://www.maxshouse.com/outdoor_risks.htm Phil's site http://www.fanciers.com/cat-faqs/outside-world.shtml
> Keep the cat inside. > > That's just cruel! > Why bother having a pet, if you make them subservient to your instincts > rather than letting them keep their own? MaryL - 25 Dec 2005 15:30 GMT > My cat keeps leaving 'remains' all over the house, apart from preventing > access, any ideas to cure the problem.Maybe a 'bell' collar would be the > answer, but I'm at my wits end to find a solution There is no solution except to keep your cat indoors. What you described is perfectly normal behavior for a cat.
An indoor-only cat is much safer, both for the cat and for the environment (and possibly for neighbors who object to having other peoples' pets roam on their property). An indoor cat will be happy if you provide plenty of toys, attention, scratching posts (and hopefully a good cat tree).
MaryL
JackKetch@otmale.com - 26 Dec 2005 12:16 GMT I suppose it depends where you live. My 2 cats eat and crap in the house, play in the garden. Both are rescue/stray, one Mr Mozz hate's being indoors unless its very bad WX, the other Mr's Tills was locked out/abandoned by last owner and is very reluctant to go out, (poor thing, thinks she wont get back in?) I found her living outside an abandoned flat in the bin storage, fed her a week or 2, then got her rescued. Then believe it or not, I couldn't stop thinking about her, so I bought her from the rescue, and brought her home. She will walk round the garden with me, but heads for the door as soon as I do.. The UK has no rabies, (Although they have built a nice tunnel for it to re enter) fox and dog run wild, although usually to stupid to pack, cats have the knack to jump high and escape, aggressive dogs get taken to pound. The two who share me think cats are better with a free choice, they have a cat flap and plenty of proper trees in the yard. Hope yours are happy too.
Wendy - 26 Dec 2005 13:24 GMT >I suppose it depends where you live. > My 2 cats eat and crap in the house, play in the garden. Both are [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > two who share me think cats are better with a free choice, they have a cat > flap and plenty of proper trees in the yard. Hope yours are happy too. How do you train your cats to stay out of the street and away from cars?
JackKetch@otmale.com - 26 Dec 2005 13:42 GMT How do you train your cats to stay out of the street and away from cars?
The Cat has more road sense than you give them credit for, anyhow that's how they live in the UK. The roads are NOT littered with run down, deceased cats. No disrespect, but 'in the UK' usually its only loonies or people with breed cats that are worth steeling to sell, who make the cat a prisoner. Most let the cat live socially independent lives and are happy sharing 1/2 and 1/2 with the wild nature of our companions.
Just shows how adaptable our little palls are.
Wendy - 26 Dec 2005 15:10 GMT > How do you train your cats to stay out of the street and away from cars? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Just shows how adaptable our little palls are. The only thing I can figure is you must just have a lot less traffic. I sadly see all to many kitties, opossums, deer, squirrels and even raccoons dead on the side of the road. US animals have a heck of a time dealing with motor vehicles.
No, come to think about it, you've gotta have smarter cats. My SIL lives in the boonies. She has more horse and buggies pass her home than cars and trucks. Her cats are outside cats and have an average life span of two years before getting hit by a truck or car. And that is how the majority of them meet their end. A few have just disappeared but most she has to go pick up off the road in front of the house.
a christmas tree - 26 Dec 2005 14:31 GMT > My cat keeps leaving 'remains' all over the house, apart from preventing > access, any ideas to cure the problem.Maybe a 'bell' collar would be the > answer, but I'm at my wits end to find a solution just change your tolerance leve for this i don't know a way to keep a cat from killing a mouse or that I would want them to stop
mouse decon works great!
id rather see a dead mouse than a live mouse
---MIKE--- - 26 Dec 2005 14:59 GMT >>mouse decon works great! >>id rather see a dead mouse than a live >> mouse Then when the cat eats the mouse you will have a sick or dead cat.
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>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') a christmas tree - 26 Dec 2005 17:39 GMT > >>mouse decon works great! > >>id rather see a dead mouse than a live [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire > >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') that's a wives tale
which cat among us would eat a cold dead rat
zero
my lord, cats are throwing up on here, spoon feeding them...
dead rats? I don't think so
put a pin in it will ya
---MIKE--- - 26 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT Barry, have you considered that the cat might eat a poisoned mouse that is still alive. They don't all die right away after ingesting Decon. Get a grip!
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>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') a christmas tree - 27 Dec 2005 03:10 GMT > Barry, have you considered that the cat might eat a poisoned mouse that > is still alive. They don't all die right away after ingesting Decon. > Get a grip! heh heh i've never seen a fed housecat eat a "dying" mouse
nobody has but you
---MIKE--- - 27 Dec 2005 13:26 GMT Barry, You won't give up will you? Admit it - putting Decon out for mice if you have a cat that eats mice is a BAD idea.
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>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') a christmas tree - 28 Dec 2005 02:39 GMT > Barry, You won't give up will you? Admit it - putting Decon out for > mice if you have a cat that eats mice is a BAD idea. you're saying a mouse is going to come stumbling out from behind the counter holding his heart shouting "this is the big one! I'm coming elizabeth!"
mouse falls down...kicks his legs for about a minute...mouse gets back up and falls right back down...a few more kicks...but he's gone!
personally I don't use decon, i wouldn't want my cat eating a spiked mouse you know...
ok, maybe it is a bad idea
NMR - 28 Dec 2005 02:44 GMT What did they put in your eggnog Barry
>> Barry, You won't give up will you? Admit it - putting Decon out for >> mice if you have a cat that eats mice is a BAD idea. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > ok, maybe it is a bad idea a christmas tree - 28 Dec 2005 02:48 GMT > What did they put in your eggnog Barry it feels like truth serum, i'll need some more to be sure
Alison - 26 Dec 2005 17:21 GMT > My cat keeps leaving 'remains' all over the house, apart from preventing > access, any ideas to cure the problem.Maybe a 'bell' collar would be the > answer, but I'm at my wits end to find a solution > You can get sonic collars from Pets at home. That might reduce the amount of prey but it depends how good a hunter your cat is. Mice tend to come out from dawn to dusk, so, if you don't already, restrict the time your cat is allowed outside to the daytime. Alison
bag-o-switches - 28 Dec 2005 20:10 GMT <snip, wah wah wah>
ain't nobody gonna buy that sh.t
John Doe - 28 Dec 2005 21:13 GMT nym shifting troll
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NMR - 29 Dec 2005 00:14 GMT But he still loves you Barry "
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