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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2005Need a good book on cat behavior/psychology
EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) that my cat has behavioral problems that need to be corrected, or B) the I'm a newbie in cat care and I need to know about litterboxes and vets. Ug! I'm interested in cat psychology, what makes them tick, how they "think," why they act the way they do. I already know how to care for cats and I don't need to correct any behavioral problems. Any recommendations? > EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) > thatknow how to care for > cats and I don't need to correct any behavioral problems. > > Any recommendations? Write your own book. Fo Real! Just put yourself in thier shoes and say.. now why would I do a thing like that (whatever it is) Animals are instinctual, they do not have a conscience. Even without a conscience cats do sense when something is wrong with dey owners. Barry You could write a book called, "An Interview with Bootsy" > Animals are instinctual, they do not have a conscience. > Even without a conscience cats do sense when something > is wrong with dey owners. Is this not the very definition of conscience, knowing right from wrong? You just proved that cats DO have a conscience. They know when they are being bad without a doubt. > Barry > You could write a book called, "An Interview with Bootsy" Good idea. Cats, especially ferals, are like people who live by their wits. They get bored easily, like children with attention deficits, with or without it being a "disorder." Cats need to exercise their brains or they go to sleep. The resting brainwaves of cats is around 14 Hz. In humans, it's around 10 Hz, quite a bit slower. Come to think of it, have you in psychology about "attention?" You might get some clues there. It's worth a peek, methinks. > > Animals are instinctual, they do not have a conscience. > > Even without a conscience cats do sense when something > > is wrong with dey owners. > > Is this not the very definition of conscience, knowing right from > wrong? They have no appearance of having a conscious until they are caught. Then what we are really seeing is not the working of the conscience. > You just proved that cats DO have a conscience. > > They know when they are being bad without a doubt. Based on our actions, therefor they must modify... what is it that makes them want to stay close... many many animals are like this. It's instilled in them from birth; to touch and be touched. > > > Animals are instinctual, they do not have a conscience. > > > Even without a conscience cats do sense when something [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They have no appearance of having a conscious until they are caught. > Then what we are really seeing is not the working of the conscience. But this is also true of many people. They become religious or show concern only after getting caught, for example. This does not mean they do not have a conscience. It indicates that the dictates of a cats' conscience are not the same rules applying to people. For example, I do not have to attack every mouse that I see. What we view as negative conscience is positive conscience for a cat. They have different rules and different frames of reference. Same universe, different priorities. My cat behaves herself when I am not around. I do not find toilet paper strewn about. Almost never do I find things knocked on the floor. In fact, she is the soul of wit and brevity and decorum. > > You just proved that cats DO have a conscience. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > what is it that makes them want to stay close... > many many animals are like this. This is so for many living creatures. And the gathering together of living creatures shows that it's instinctual and not because of conscience? > It's instilled in them from birth; to touch and be touched. People who are touched tend to do much better than those who are left alone. Bad pun but it' true. > But this is also true of many people. They become religious or show > concern only after getting caught, for example. yayaya Cats are not aware of thier own existence. A cat doesn't get up in the morning, take a deep breath and say, I'm alive, and I know I'm alive. Of course not, he just experiences his living. > This does not mean they do not have a conscience. It indicates that the > dictates of a cats' conscience are not the same rules applying to [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > alone. > Bad pun but it' true. lol no, I hear ya, and it sounds pretty good, but your missing one fundamental ingredient. Cats are smart, they will behave knowing the consequence. If the consequence is seperation from you, they will avoid that action altogether. This can be put under the category of survival. Sure, it takes the love out of things to say, they only do it for survival, but it is true. Avoiding the toilet paper only proves they want to survive. You don't have to say *I* proved cats have a conscience to convey your opinion on the matter...do you? why are you doing that! stop doing that! Not only are you trying to sway my opinion but you want it come out of my mouth too! ? ! ALL OR NONE EH? What else you need to know. > Any recommendations? Now Im working on a coffee table book about cats. oooo, not very original! what better way to get in someones mind by just speding time with them. i think Im scraping here. Books by Roger Tabor. Do a google or amazon search. A lot of them do have advice on how to deal with cats, but i remember them has lots of research on general cat behavior/psychology. Have you read anything by Pam Bennett-Johnson? > EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) > that my cat has behavioral problems that need to be corrected, or B) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Any recommendations?  SignatureJ Kimmel myname@whereIwork.com www.metalinnovations.com "Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow. > EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) > that my cat has behavioral problems that need to be corrected, or B) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Any recommendations? The Cat who Cried for Help- Attitudes, Emotions and Psychology of Cats by Nicholas Dodman Understanding Cats and Understanding Cat Behavior- both by Roger Tabor. The Nine Emotional Lives of Cats- a journey into the feline heart. by Jeffery Moussaieff Masson And if you *really* want to know what's going on inside a cat's head, read The Silent Miaow by Paul Gallico. After you read it, you'll sleep with one eye open! lol Phil > > EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) > > that my cat has behavioral problems that need to be corrected, or B) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Phil I second the recommendations for books by Dodman and Tabor. I haven't read Masson. One of the worst in my opinion is Desmond Morris--actually laughed at some of the notions he came up with. And although she is not an animal behaviorist, but in fact got her start as a groomer, Anita Frazier (The New Natural Cat) did teach me some things about cat behavior. That's where I learned how pleased cats are when you return "the slow blink". -Yngver > And although she is not > an animal behaviorist, but in fact got her start as a groomer, > Anita Frazier (The New Natural Cat) did teach me some things about > cat behavior. That's where I learned how pleased cats are when you > return "the slow blink". A slow blink? I will look out for that. > > And although she is not > > an animal behaviorist, but in fact got her start as a groomer, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > A slow blink? I will look out for that. I'm sure you've noticed sometimes your cat stares at you sort of sleepy-eyed, and gives a slow blink. It's a sign of affection, like blowing a kiss. Blink back slowly and often the cat will at first be surprised that you speak "cat". Mine all react by giving more blinks and purrs. -Yngver >EVERY book I've found thus far assumes at least one of two things: A) >that my cat has behavioral problems that need to be corrected, or B) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Any recommendations? I just ordered one from Amazon the other day, haven't received it yet. "Cat Vs. Cat : Keeping Peace When You Have More Than One Cat" by Pam Johnson-Bennett Has anyone read this? It looks interesting, and has decent reader reviews on Amazon.
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