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Wendy - 15 Mar 2004 22:32 GMT
Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.

W
kaeli - 15 Mar 2004 22:49 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.

Yes, at least around here at the "regular" vet.
The low-cost clinic does not make them stay overnight.

Remember, you took him in at 8, but he probably didn't have surgery
until after 12, possibly as late as 5. They like them in early so they
know they didn't eat or drink anything right before surgery.

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Wendy - 15 Mar 2004 23:09 GMT
> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> > neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
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> until after 12, possibly as late as 5. They like them in early so they
> know they didn't eat or drink anything right before surgery.

It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no water from
Midnight. We followed the instructions. I don't know why they had to have
him in so early if they are going to let him sit all day before doing him.

Oh I am so flipping annoyed. When I dropped him off this morning they told
me we could pick him up at 5. Then they call around 3:30 to tell me he is
just then coming out of anesthesia and I have to leave him overnight and
can't get him till 10 tomorrow.

W
Cathy Friedmann - 15 Mar 2004 23:12 GMT
> > > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
> being
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>
> W

They may also have initially had him scheduled for the morning, but then had
an emergency or two which pushed their schedule back; or maybe one of the
vets scheduled to do surgeries today was sick & didn't make it into work.
Could be reasonable reasons for the delay.

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Priscilla Ballou - 15 Mar 2004 23:19 GMT
> It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
> afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no water from
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> just then coming out of anesthesia and I have to leave him overnight and
> can't get him till 10 tomorrow.

They may well have had an emergency or two or three which took up the
time when they'd planned to do his surgery.  I'd cut them a break if it
were me.

Priscilla
Wendy - 15 Mar 2004 23:44 GMT
> > It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
> > afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no water from
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Priscilla

I guess I'm touchy when it comes to this. They did the same thing to us when
we had Fluffer neutered but then let us take him home around 9 that night.
If they have a policy of doing the males late in the day I'd be a lot
happier if they said so up front.

W
Mary - 16 Mar 2004 00:17 GMT
"Wendy" <

> I guess I'm touchy when it comes to this. They did the same thing to us when
> we had Fluffer neutered but then let us take him home around 9 that night.
> If they have a policy of doing the males late in the day I'd be a lot
> happier if they said so up front.

Hell, if I ever have to put Cheeks in they will be lucky if I don't
insist on sleeping in the waiting room if they keep her over night.
Laura R. - 16 Mar 2004 01:08 GMT
circa Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:44:06 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,
> I guess I'm touchy when it comes to this. They did the same thing to us when
> we had Fluffer neutered but then let us take him home around 9 that night.
> If they have a policy of doing the males late in the day I'd be a lot
> happier if they said so up front.

What's more likely is that they get hit with emergencies in the
morning, when people have been worrying all night about their pets
(but apparently not enough to take them to emergency vets).

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dgk - 17 Mar 2004 14:23 GMT
>circa Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:44:06 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>morning, when people have been worrying all night about their pets
>(but apparently not enough to take them to emergency vets).

That bit about the emergency vets is a good point. I've certainly
tried to figure out if the cat was actually sick and whether it needed
the emergency visit. Those things cost a lot of money and are a 40
minute drive from me. Twice I went late at night and it was nothing
serious. Once I didn't and the cat died, but would have died anyway.

The damn things just won't tell you whether it's serious or not.

Another thing is that sometimes you get up and the cat is clearly not
well. The vet opens in an hour and it would take almost that long to
get to the emergency vet. You go to the vet and enter as the door
opens. Poof, Fluffer's surgery is delayed.

I note that my vet seems to do surgery in the morning before regular
appointments, which indicates that the animal has spent the night.
Cat Protector - 17 Mar 2004 05:22 GMT
Perhaps there were other cats waiting to have spaying or neutering done? I
have to agree the OP needs to cut the vet a break.

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"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n-

> They may well have had an emergency or two or three which took up the
> time when they'd planned to do his surgery.  I'd cut them a break if it
> were me.
>
> Priscilla
Wendy - 17 Mar 2004 13:39 GMT
There wasn't an emergency. I asked about it when I picked Boots up yesterday
and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.

W

> Perhaps there were other cats waiting to have spaying or neutering done? I
> have to agree the OP needs to cut the vet a break.
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> >
> > Priscilla
PawsForThought - 17 Mar 2004 14:44 GMT
>From: "Wendy" wendypart@nospam.com

>There wasn't an emergency. I asked about it when I picked Boots up yesterday
>and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.

In that case, they absolutely should have told you it was very likely he would
have to stay overnight so you didn't worry needlessly.  Hope Boots is feeling
back to himself this morning :)

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Cat Protector - 17 Mar 2004 16:49 GMT
You see, a perfectly logical explaination. I think you need to cut the vet a
break.

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> There wasn't an emergency. I asked about it when I picked Boots up yesterday
> and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.
>
> W
Laura R. - 18 Mar 2004 01:42 GMT
circa Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:39:40 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav

> and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.

Which may actually make sense, if you consider how many people let
little Fluffy or Fido have "just a little snack" before going to the
vet. Bad for anesthesia, and by performing the surgery in the
afternoon, the vets can ensure that the cat hasn't recently eaten.

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DevilsPGD - 18 Mar 2004 04:02 GMT
>> and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.
>
>Which may actually make sense, if you consider how many people let
>little Fluffy or Fido have "just a little snack" before going to the
>vet. Bad for anesthesia, and by performing the surgery in the
>afternoon, the vets can ensure that the cat hasn't recently eaten.

If they're going to hold the cat a long enough waiting period anyway,
why bother restricting food at all?

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Laura R. - 19 Mar 2004 04:44 GMT
circa Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:02:50 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
DevilsPGD (lalalaNOSPAM@crazyhat.net) said,

> >> and they told me the vet always does the neuters in the afternoon.
> >
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> If they're going to hold the cat a long enough waiting period anyway,
> why bother restricting food at all?

Because it's still not ideal to have only a few hours without eating
versus an actual fast?

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Cheryl - 15 Mar 2004 23:49 GMT
> It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
> afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no
> water from Midnight. We followed the instructions. I don't know why
> they had to have him in so early if they are going to let him sit all
> day before doing him.

Try not to worry too much about the feeding. Nearly 2 years ago when
Shadow  had to have surgery 3 times in one week, I had dropped him off on
a Monday morning, no food since the night before (and this just after an
anorexic ordeal w/feeding tube and I was worried any bit of not eating
would set him back again). The procedure that day wasn't successful and
he was kept mostly without food though they tried to give him something
that evening but he wouldn't eat. Next day, same thing - unsuccessful
procedure, attempted to give him food which he wouldn't eat. They gave
him a rest the following day but Thursday finally opened him up and I
didn't get him home until Saturday. He barely ate the entire week because
they had to anesthesize him. He came home and thankfully ate. We went
through your situation a few times, too. Frustrating.

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Wendy - 16 Mar 2004 00:05 GMT
> > It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
> > afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no
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> they had to anesthesize him. He came home and thankfully ate. We went
> through your situation a few times, too. Frustrating.

I'm not handling this too well. But, but, but, he's my baby! Boy is he going
to hate me tomorrow.

W
Cheryl - 16 Mar 2004 00:14 GMT
> I'm not handling this too well. But, but, but, he's my baby! Boy is he
> going to hate me tomorrow.

It's ok. Most if not all of us know how you feel.  :)  Chances are he won't
hate you, but look at you as his savior.  :))  Treats help though! Hang in
there. He'll just sleep tonight anyway, plus he is safe in a cage to come
out of the sedation.  Nothing scarier than trying to keep a doped up kitty
still while they come out of it.  

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Laura R. - 16 Mar 2004 01:11 GMT
circa Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:14:14 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cheryl (jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com) said,

> > I'm not handling this too well. But, but, but, he's my baby! Boy is he
> > going to hate me tomorrow.
>
> It's ok. Most if not all of us know how you feel.  :)  Chances are he won't
> hate you, but look at you as his savior.  :))

Exactly. Heck, on the scale of "save me, mommy" greetings, a neuter
is pretty low-stress. Try implantation of a PEG tube, or exploratory
surgery of the entire digestive tract. Then they *really* love you
when you get back. ;-)

> Treats help though! Hang in
> there. He'll just sleep tonight anyway, plus he is safe in a cage to come
> out of the sedation.  Nothing scarier than trying to keep a doped up kitty
> still while they come out of it.  

Boy, isn't that the truth. Having googly-eyed, uncoordinated, grumpy
cats staggering around the house is *not* fun.

Laura

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Penelope Baker - 16 Mar 2004 14:00 GMT
> circa Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:14:14 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Cheryl (jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com) said,
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>
> Laura

My Crasher hated me last time he came out of surgery.  He hissed and was so
mad and angry and aggressive.  It was also obvious he had absolutely no clue
who I was, but it was still just a truly unsettling experience.

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m. L. Briggs - 16 Mar 2004 07:12 GMT
>> > It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
>> > afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no
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>
>W

I doubt he will blame you  -- just TED.  Pet him a lot.  I am sure he
will love you.
mbk@webtv.net - 16 Mar 2004 03:06 GMT
Wendy,
Is it possible that they had some unexpected emergencies that they had
to preform before your "routine" procedure?
( I realize that no surgery is routine)

Have you had a bad or negative experience with this vet before?

Michele
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Cat Protector - 17 Mar 2004 05:21 GMT
I think you are being a little hard on the vet. I have to agree with the
others who say they probably didn't perform the operation until after 12pm.
It makes sense they'd keep him overnight just to make sure he was ok. What
time did they say they'd be doing the surgery or did you just drop him off
without an appointment?

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> It's obvious to me that they didn't bother doing the surgery till this
> afternoon. They told us not to feed him from 10 last night and no water from
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> W
Sherry - 17 Mar 2004 07:22 GMT
>I think you are being a little hard on the vet. I have to agree with the
>others who say they probably didn't perform the operation until after 12pm.
>It makes sense they'd keep him overnight just to make sure he was ok. What
>time did they say they'd be doing the surgery or did you just drop him off
>without an appointment?

Oh DUH, CP. Use your head. She didn't drop the cat off for surgery without a
freaking appointment. When you bring a cat in for neuter, they tell you to
bring them early, and withhold food/water from midnight on. They don't specify
an "appointment".  She's aggravated because he had to  sit in a cage all day,
hungry and thirsty. The same thing happened to me with Biskit. I was also
aggravated for the same reasons. It's not a huge deal, but it's discomfort that
no one wants their cats to suffer.

Sherry
Linda E - 17 Mar 2004 13:10 GMT
> >I think you are being a little hard on the vet. I have to agree with the
> >others who say they probably didn't perform the operation until after 12pm.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Sherry

I, too, would be upset if the vet said one thing and then did another....
obviously, the OP got no explaination as to why the cat couldn't come
home.... that *certainly* would have aleviated the worry.

Linda
Cathy Friedmann - 17 Mar 2004 16:45 GMT
> I, too, would be upset if the vet said one thing and then did another....
> obviously, the OP got no explaination as to why the cat couldn't come
> home.... that *certainly* would have aleviated the worry.

But couldn't she have merely asked?

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> Linda
Linda E - 18 Mar 2004 00:44 GMT
> > I, too, would be upset if the vet said one thing and then did another....
> > obviously, the OP got no explaination as to why the cat couldn't come
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>
> Cathy

Yes.  I didn't catch it that she didn't....... If my vet said "pick up at
5"... and then wouldn't let me take him, I'd ask why....

Linda
Cat Protector - 17 Mar 2004 16:55 GMT
Isn't it amazing that Sherry has to turn the focus of the attention on her
and her fanning the flames of war in a totally innocent thread? Anyway, I
have to wonder if we are getting the whole picture here regarding the vet.
It seems pretty logical to me that a vet would wait and do the surgery in
the afternoon. The original OP said she checked and there was no emergency
that day. Given that some vets look after multiple patients I have to wonder
if maybe there were other cats waiting to be spayed or neutered as well.
That is a possibility.

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> > >I think you are being a little hard on the vet. I have to agree with the
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>
> Linda
Sherry - 17 Mar 2004 17:33 GMT
>Isn't it amazing that Sherry has to turn the focus of the attention on her
>and her fanning the flames of war in a totally innocent thread?

I'm still waiting on you to justify the reason for sending the abusive, nasty
e-mail that you sent to me. You haven't forwarded the alleged reason. I'm
assuming now that you're lying.

Sherry
equalizer - 17 Mar 2004 18:14 GMT
>>Isn't it amazing that Sherry has to turn the focus of the attention on her
>>and her fanning the flames of war in a totally innocent thread?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Sherry

Could you post the email message on here, with headers, Sherry, so everyone can
see what CP is all about? You're obviously not going to get him to face up to
what he did...

eq
Sherry - 17 Mar 2004 18:44 GMT
>>>Isn't it amazing that Sherry has to turn the focus of the attention on her
>>>and her fanning the flames of war in a totally innocent thread?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>eq

Arrggh. I must be crazy, but I still can't bring myself to post a personal
e-mail on the group. Even if it *is* from CP. Basically, he was accusing me of
"attacking others" and in true CP style, continued on criticizing the OP in the
thread. For a finale, it said "Do not email me again."
Sort of like the hundred times he's said he killfiled me.
The only thing I can figure out is a quirk in the system that sent my post as
an e-mail in addition to posting on the group.
If anyone else has received posts via e-mail from me, let me know. But somehow
I doubt it.

Sherry
Cat Protector - 18 Mar 2004 01:49 GMT
Another troublemaker. Into the killfile you go.

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> >>Isn't it amazing that Sherry has to turn the focus of the attention on her
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>
> eq
Wendy - 17 Mar 2004 14:02 GMT
> >I think you are being a little hard on the vet. I have to agree with the
> >others who say they probably didn't perform the operation until after 12pm.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Sherry

I just wish they hadn't told me one thing and done another. They apparently
knew they weren't going to operate until after noon. If that is the SOP it
seems to me that plenty of the animals they neuter end up staying overnight
except maybe the first few they do. In that case it would be better to
prepare people to expect an overnight stay with the possibility the cat
could come home if he is one of the first done. When things didn't go the
way I was lead to believe they would, I started worrying. Why did they need
him in so early in the morning if they weren't going to operate till late?
What went wrong? Was there a problem they weren't telling me about?

In hindsight I was probably more p*ssed at my sister for her "it's only a
cat" comment (when I told her about being worried) than I was at the vet.

As it turned out it was much ado about nothing and I'm feeling foolish. But
I do intend on suggesting they better prepare people for an overnight stay
as a normal course of events. I never worried when the girls were done and
had to stay because they told us up front that was to be expected.

W
Sherry - 17 Mar 2004 15:54 GMT
>I just wish they hadn't told me one thing and done another. They apparently
>knew they weren't going to operate until after noon. If that is the SOP it
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>
>W
Don't feel foolish. I agree with you completely. I had my cat there at 8 a.m.,
no food / water since midnight. She sat in the cage till after 3. I was plenty
pissed. There are more than one vet in the practice, and I felt like there
couldnt have been *that many* emergencies. I suspected it was just a case of
poor scheduling. I understand your concern. You can't help empathizing with the
poor hungry, caged cat annd wondering whether he thinks he's been abandoned in
the first place, then to have to stay there even longer than your anticipated.

Sherry
Mary - 17 Mar 2004 19:05 GMT
"Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote in message

> Don't feel foolish. I agree with you completely. I had my cat there at 8 a.m.,
> no food / water since midnight. She sat in the cage till after 3. I was plenty
> pissed.

I would be too.
RobZip - 17 Mar 2004 23:45 GMT
> Oh I am so flipping annoyed. When I dropped him off this morning they told
> me we could pick him up at 5. Then they call around 3:30 to tell me he is
> just then coming out of anesthesia and I have to leave him overnight and
> can't get him till 10 tomorrow.

Geeezuz girl.... get a tight grip on the reins will ya?  Developments happen
like this and the overnight stay was deemed to be in the animal's best
interest - not yours. Had you taken him home at 5, the vet probably would
had further care instructions but having had the opportunity to observe you
figured you would be too much of an impatient, self serving c.nt to follow
up on any of them. You sound like one of those whiny assed SUV bitches that
wants everything her way. Get a f.cking life.
Priscilla Ballou - 15 Mar 2004 22:53 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.

Not in my experience.  Were they being extra cautious about coming out
of the anaesthesia?  Or maybe the surgery was done in the evening and
they have a certain number of hours they watch an animal after surgery?

Priscilla
Wendy - 15 Mar 2004 23:12 GMT
> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> > neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Priscilla

Yea the ding dongs left him sitting there hungry and thirsty till this
afternoon before doing the surgery.

W
Priscilla Ballou - 15 Mar 2004 23:18 GMT
> > > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
> being
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Yea the ding dongs left him sitting there hungry and thirsty till this
> afternoon before doing the surgery.

OK, then the overnight sounds reasonable.  Poor tyke.  He'll need some
extra lovin' when he comes home.

Priscilla
Diane L. Schirf - 16 Mar 2004 04:23 GMT
> > > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
> being
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Yea the ding dongs left him sitting there hungry and thirsty till this
> afternoon before doing the surgery.

Maybe they had some unexpected emergencies, etc. It's a little rough on
them when you don't know the whole story.

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Cat Protector - 17 Mar 2004 05:16 GMT
Actually this sounds normal. I would think because of the operation and
anesthesia they'd want food withheld the day before the operation.

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> Yea the ding dongs left him sitting there hungry and thirsty till this
> afternoon before doing the surgery.
>
> W
Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 15 Mar 2004 22:55 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
> W

It don't know if it's "normal" but perhaps your cat had a difficult time
with the anaesthesia so they wanted to keep him a little longer to watch
over him?

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Karen - 15 Mar 2004 22:58 GMT
> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
> being
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>
> rona

That would be my guess. Better safe than sorry type of thing.

Karen
Joe Canuck - 15 Mar 2004 23:10 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
> W

I'd only get pissed if I found out there was no one in attendance at the
clinic during this overnight stay.

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Wendy - 15 Mar 2004 23:50 GMT
> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> > neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
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> I'd only get pissed if I found out there was no one in attendance at the
> clinic during this overnight stay.

I'm not sure if they are going to have anyone there with him overnight which
is why I'm so bent out of shape. When they thought they'd have to keep Ralf
overnight when he was so sick they talked about transferring him to the
emergency vet so he'd have someone with him overnight. Hell I'd sit with him
overnight rather than having him all by himself (and all the other animals)
overnight.

W
m. L. Briggs - 16 Mar 2004 07:14 GMT
>> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
>being
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>W

Speak up to them!
Ginger-lyn Summer - 15 Mar 2004 23:12 GMT
>Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
>neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
>W

Not for low-cost spay/neuters, but my regular vet always keeps them
overnight -- longer if there are any hints of a problem.  I personally
prefer it that way, since I know any likely problems will probably
show up early, and they will be taken care of at the vet's.

Ginger-lyn
m. L. Briggs - 15 Mar 2004 23:34 GMT
>Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
>neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
>W

Thank your vet for being conscientious.  I once picked my cat up at
5pm as promised and she was in terrible shape from the anesthetic.  It
took her a long time to come out of it.  I told the Vet what I thought
of that!
PawsForThought - 16 Mar 2004 03:15 GMT
>From: "Wendy" wendypart@nospam.com

>Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
>neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.

Well, I don't know what your vet's protocol is but when I got Mickey neutered,
we took him in at about 8 a.m. also.  He was given Isoflurane for the
anesthesia.  I picked him up around 4 p.m. and he was bright eyed and bushy
tailed.  He was also about 5 1/2 months old at the time.  So with that being
said, perhaps your vet didn't do the surgery till later in the day.  Can you
call them to inquire or are they closed now?

Lauren
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IBen Getiner - 16 Mar 2004 11:30 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
> W

Well good for you. You're now a bona fide abuser. So what? Who cares?

                        IBen G.
Jeannie - 16 Mar 2004 11:49 GMT
> Well good for you. You're now a bona fide abuser. So what? Who cares?
>
>                          IBen G.

Blah, Blah, Blah....(yawn)
Linda E - 17 Mar 2004 00:27 GMT
Is he home?  How is he?

> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
> W
Wendy - 17 Mar 2004 02:39 GMT
> Is he home?  How is he?

He's home.  He's bald. Kinda walking like a body builder but fine.

Isabelle was sure glad to see him. I couldn't get her out of my lap all
last night. Her sleeping buddy wasn't here and she was lonely.

W
Linda E - 17 Mar 2004 03:19 GMT
> > Is he home?  How is he?
> >
> He's home.  He's bald. Kinda walking like a body builder but fine.
>
>  Isabelle was sure glad to see him. I couldn't get her out of my lap all
> last night. Her sleeping buddy wasn't here and she was lonely.

Awww... glad he's home and okay... mad at you?????

Linda
Wendy - 17 Mar 2004 14:05 GMT
> > > Is he home?  How is he?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Linda

No he's not mad. He was really glad to see me. He was crying in the carrier
until he heard my voice and then settled down. They said he was a real
sweetheart (of course I knew that) and was head butting everyone.

It will be interesting to see how he is next time I try getting him in the
carrier.

W
Dennis Carr - 17 Mar 2004 04:09 GMT
> Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.

That seems peculiar, since when we had Malfoy fixed back in September, he
was brought in the evening before so that he wouldn't eat before being
anesthetized for the surgery.

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Linda E - 17 Mar 2004 13:11 GMT
> > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after being
> > neutered? I had to take him at 8:00 this morning.
>
> That seems peculiar, since when we had Malfoy fixed back in September, he
> was brought in the evening before so that he wouldn't eat before being
> anesthetized for the surgery.

When my cat, Mikey, was fixed... they told me when to stop feeding him
(which I did), to bring him in first thing in the morning (which I did) and
to pick him up at 5:00 (which I did).  With the female, she had to stay
overnight - *after* the surgery.
Linda
Wendy - 17 Mar 2004 15:14 GMT
> > > Is it normal for a male cat to have to stay overnight at the vet after
> being
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> overnight - *after* the surgery.
> Linda

That's what they told us too. I've had three male cats neutered over the
years. They told us the same thing for all three. The first one went
according to plan home at 5. Then when we had Fluffer neutered they wanted
to keep him. I told them absolutely not. We had only adopted him 2 weeks
prior and I didn't want him thinking he was being dumped again. They let us
bring him home at 9 PM. And then this time when they kept Boots.

W
Arjun Ray - 18 Mar 2004 09:21 GMT
| That's what they told us too. I've had three male cats neutered over
| the years. They told us the same thing for all three. The first one
| went according to plan home at 5. Then when we had Fluffer neutered
| they wanted to keep him. I told them absolutely not. We had only
| adopted him 2 weeks prior and I didn't want him thinking he was being
| dumped again.

Good on you.

| They let us bring him home at 9 PM. And then this time when they kept
| Boots.

Did the overnight stay cost more? ;-)

While of course it's better to err on the safe side, neutering a normal
healthy male is rarely problematic.  Having trouble coming out of the
anaesthesia is about the only relevant consideration.

Other than that, I have to say that I'm a firm believer in using a high
volume (and usually low-cost) clinic rather than a regular vet for S/N.
They are experts, and have the procedure down pat.  You drop the cat off
in the morning and pick the cat up in the evening when they're sure that
the anaesthesia is wearing off.  

I've done this many times - my own cats and a zillion ferals - without
ever having had a problem.  But I wouldn't be so sanguine with a regular
vet, simply because, as a generalist, he may not be the best *surgeon*
for ones cat.

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