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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2005Mousetraps--They Work
I have found out--mousetraps WORK for keeping cats off of things & places you don't want them. And it doesn't seem to hurt them. Two kittens we have seemed totally stubborn & determined to keep hopping onto the kitchen table. We put 8 mousetraps at various spots--including placing two upside down under a sheet of paper on a chair they like to use to hop up there. Left the room and a few minutes later--POP! Went and reset it, next morning no sign of any cat trespassing. Last night had a small tiny Christmas tree on the dresser, came home & found it overturned on the floor with the balls everywhere. Put it back, placed 2 mousetraps around it, left the room, barely two minutes later--POP! Reset it, I get up this morning, the mousetrap is STILL set and the tree has not been touched. Those cats have learned who the boss is around here--that it is me, that I am not kidding when I say "stay off of that!" that I mean it. (That, or they're just scared of sudden noises, whatever, makes no difference.) It is worth noting, too, they seem OK--no sign of injuries or whatever. They're totally uninjured (I don't know how but they are) and they're learning who the boss is around here. They work, they really do. LRH Troll > Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!p01!fed1read01.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail > From: "Larry R Harrison Jr" <larrytucaz cox.net> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > LRH With a name like John Doe, I wouldn't go around name-calling. I put this here because I see many posters asking things like "how do I keep my cat off the kitchen table" or "how do I get my cat to leave the Christmas tree alone" etc etc. So I offered this pre-emptively. If you disagree with it, take it on and explain why. Otherwise, what are you offering besides name-calling when (again) with a name like "John Doe" you're hardly one to talk? LRH >With a name like John Doe, I wouldn't go around name-calling. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >LRH JD is a wannabe, Nothing more. GIT - R - DONE > JD is a wannabe, Nothing more. > > GIT - R - DONE John is classic case of someone with Oedipal fear. > > JD is a wannabe, Nothing more. > > > > GIT - R - DONE > > John is classic case of someone with Oedipal fear. ooo Sigmund! I love it when you talk psychoanalysis to me! :) > ooo Sigmund! > > I love it when you talk psychoanalysis to me! :) I'm kinda working out of my pocket right now, John was an easy analysis... where I nailed John in one sentence, you're much to intricate for one sentence. <scratching my head> > > ooo Sigmund! > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sentence. > <scratching my head> Don't you dare even try!! A troll sticking up for a guy who tortures cats See also: Nannypoo Celeste Mary Smith Topaz Lumpy > From: "cybercat" <boagrrl hotmail.com> > Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I love it when you talk psychoanalysis to me! :) A troll sticking up for a guy who tortures cats See also: "cheryl_is_freak" <cheryl_is_freak yahoo.com> "stay_right_there" <stay_right_there yahoo.com> "chickenwing"... "coffeedog"... "Prozack"... "coffeedog"... "wannabe"... > Path: newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy.com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: "whitershadeofpale" <bigbadbarry adelphia.net> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > John is classic case of someone with Oedipal fear. A troll sticking up for a guy who tortures cats See also: Malicious hacker troll script kiddie USENET server abuse flood Denial of Service DOS Mary UTBill rcn.net hanaro.com hananet.net 164-204.resnet.smu.edu Steve Leyland > Path: newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet > From: Lamey - The cable guy <Getrdone redneck.com> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > GIT - R - DONE > I put this here because I see many posters asking things like "how do I keep > my cat off the kitchen table" or "how do I get my cat to leave the Christmas > tree alone" etc etc. So I offered this pre-emptively. If you disagree with > it, take it on and explain why. > > LRH You might just have been lucky so far. It sounds like you've only been doing it a couple days. Even mice are able to spring the trap without getting hurt sometimes. I don't know how big these kittens are but I think even an adult cat could get hurt by a mousetrap by getting a paw stuck in it or something. It's so cool how you say you're the boss over some little mammals. Powerful stuff. I hope your cats don't get hurt because you don't sound like you would care enough to take them to a vet...you'd probably just let them suffer and if they died, oh, well. It's irresponsible. Poor kitties. Candace > It's so cool how you say you're the boss over some little mammals. > Powerful stuff. I hope your cats don't get hurt because you don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Candace daaam what are you smoking! I don't think dude really set mouse traps for his kittens you think he did? I don't know. If he did, he could goto jail for cruelty to animals. Traps are designed to kill small rodents....a small kitten would probably break a toe, or tail. I dont think he did. I don't know. > > It's so cool how you say you're the boss over some little mammals. > > Powerful stuff. I hope your cats don't get hurt because you don't [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > you think he did? I don't know. Yes, I think he did. Read his other post about cute when they wrestle or something like that. I think he's being perfectly serious. Candace Yes, I am being totally serious. I do use the mousetraps to keep them off of things I don't want them on. Simple enough--if they don't want the fear and sudden frightening that a mousetrap gives them, it's theirs for the taking--they simply have to stay off the forbidden areas. It's not my fault if they keep tempting fate. Now, I do typically use the water spray often-times, but often-times it doesn't work because it takes like 10 sprays for it to actually shoot water--and the cat hears the noise but not the water and they run off--but only at the prospect that they've been "caught," not the concept of learning to stay off of something per se period. That's the way it seems anyway--because that'll happen we'll go to bed and not 5 minutes later we'll hear clangs from where they've hopped onto the "forbidden areas." Sometimes I am able to get them--using the waterspray or whatever that is NOT the mousetraps--to stay off of something. That's fine by me. But other times they're being stubborn and sneaking around, and I won't stand for it. It's not at all unreasonable to want your boundaries respected. It has NOTHING to do with being a control freak or an ego-boosting thing. It is simply a thing that there are certain spots I don't want them on--the kitchen table is one, and I also think I have every right to have a Christmas tree up without finding half it strode all over the living room because they refuse to leave it alone (especially when it's just a little one barely 12" high up on a little desk). I love my cats but I am not one of those that lets them have the run of the house. But other than the kitchen table and the Christmas tree--they're free to do whatever they want, I don't care. But again, it does seem to work. The mousetrap popped twice on the Christmas tree, since then 2 days have passed and it's still not popped, and none of the tree has been knocked around. So, in other words--they've learned. The same goes for the kitchen table. They've learned. That is the point. If that is what it takes for them to learn, then so be it. If something else will do the trick and it's not more expensive or radically more work involved, no problem--I'll do that instead. But the bottom line--they WILL stay off the forbidden areas. Just "letting it be" is NOT an option. > Yes, I am being totally serious. I do use the mousetraps to keep them off of > things I don't want them on. Nobody cares, jackass. > If something else will do > the trick and it's not more expensive or radically more work involved, > no problem--I'll do that instead. But the bottom line--they WILL stay > off the forbidden areas. Go stick your finger in one of those traps, then come back and tell us it's still not worth the work to find a less dangerous alternative. Next time, get an AIBO instead. > Sometimes I am able to get them--using the waterspray Why not turn the bottle at your face, squeeze it 10 times, after you get a few shots right between the eyes, then you know its working. > It has NOTHING to do with being a control freak or an ego-boosting thing. hey! you said it, just remember that. >Just "letting it be" is NOT an option. it's not? you have a lot to learn. Them cats will break you yet. and, you ain't seen nothing yet. If you get bent over these things... the best is yet to come. > Yes, I am being totally serious. I do use the mousetraps to keep them off of > things I don't want them on. You've been posting stupid sh.t like this for years just to get a rise from people. You're just an a.shole with a serious personality disorder. > I don't think dude really set mouse traps for his kittens Someone else (I think it was someone else) once posted here about setting the traps upside down or without the spring or something, rigged where they move and make noise, but there's no risk of injury to the cat. But that was in the context of keeping them off a stove, which of course is dangerous to the cat, not in the context of being a control freak over them. This guy sounds like IBen, another one who claims a need to control animals. All I can think is how sad a life that must be, to crave that kind of control.  SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.blogspot.com/ > I hope your cats don't get hurt because you don't > sound like you would care enough to take them to a vet...you'd > probably just let them suffer and if they died, oh, well. It's > irresponsible. Poor kitties. Poor kitties indeed. This is the same moron who has posted about 5 kittens now in the last 2 years. First he got one kitten, then a few months later got another, then a few months later got another, yet he only had two total. What happened to one of the others? The post about the third even mentioned having to rehome the other, who he'd gotten at 4 weeks old a few months earlier. Now he has two more? I'd wager that these two are the only ones he has now. What has happened to the other three? I shudder to think. This man and his wimp of a wife should be put on a "do not adopt to" list. SignatureCheryl > Poor kitties indeed. This is the same moron who has posted about 5 > kittens now in the last 2 years. First he got one kitten, then a few [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Cheryl Ugh, worse than I thought. I don't recall reading him before. Candace > I have found out--mousetraps WORK for keeping cats off of things & places > you don't want them. And it doesn't seem to hurt them. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > LRH Try letting the mousetrap close on your finger -- not pleasant. > Try letting the mousetrap close on your finger -- not pleasant. I'd prefer that he try on a different part of his anatomy. SignatureEmail (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i-AT-e-c-t-DOT-o-r-g OUCH <walking away going to have nightmares about that > Matthew >> Try letting the mousetrap close on your finger -- not pleasant. > > I'd prefer that he try on a different part of his anatomy. > I have found out--mousetraps WORK for keeping cats off of things & places > you don't want them. And it doesn't seem to hurt them. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > LRH you suck SignatureEmail (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i-AT-e-c-t-DOT-o-r-g > > I have found out--mousetraps WORK for keeping cats off of things & places > > you don't want them. And it doesn't seem to hurt them. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > you suck Succinct, clear, expressive, no wasted language, no beating around the bush. Gracie gives it two paws up. Yay, Juls. No language should be wasted on cretins who hurt their cats to bolster their egos. > Succinct, clear, expressive, no wasted language, no beating around the bush. > Gracie gives it two paws up. Yay, Juls. No language should be wasted on > cretins who hurt their cats to bolster their egos. Well, his home address is on record..with his ISP The senate passed a bill recently, ISP's have to give up customers name if there is proof of crime. Dude...is cruel to his cats. This is inhumane it is illegal, it is punishable for up to 7 years for first offense up to 10,000 fine...and all the butt loving he can take! If I was Larry, I'd throw all my mouse traps away. > They work, they really do. > > LRH yure lazy as hell. You don't want to take the time to teach the kittens. and! who gives a sh.t if your tree gets knocked over! did you bring the kittens into your house? your like that freak who thought they would be pretty sitting here or setting there! you brought kittens home dingaling! no means no? Yule get put in jail if they catch you doing this. I notice you say "we", let them know they might be going to jail. > Those cats have learned who the boss is around here--that it is me, that I > am not kidding when I say "stay off of that!" that I mean it. now that I think about it, it's not your upside down traps, (with paper over them)... this seems hairbrained honestly...what if one did get a foot caught in it..don't you think that is severe? it is yo! Your comment about being the boss..this is what you don't get. why...you're acting just like a kitten! > I have found out--mousetraps WORK for keeping cats off of things & places > you don't want them. And it doesn't seem to hurt them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to hop up there. Left the room and a few minutes later--POP! Went and reset > it, next morning no sign of any cat trespassing.//// Please be very careful when using mousetraps to deter cats. If they are strong enough to break a mouses neck, they are most certainly strong enough to break the delicate bones in a kitty paw. Helen M How about if they're upside down under a sheet of paper? LRH > How about if they're upside down under a sheet of paper? > > LRH There are other ways to keep cats off of things they should not be on. I think it is wrong to use a water pistol. I think this antagonizes the cat. The cat just supresses his anger over this and pays you back in other ways. HOWEVER! You did not turn them all over and put them under paper. May I submit Exhibit A. your original post. You did post this didn't you Mr Harrison? Let's read what you wrote. "We put 8 mousetraps at various spots--including placing two upside down under a sheet of paper" So that leaves 6 raw cat traps for a dependent kitten to hurt themselves. Mr Harrison, do you consider yourself a steward of these kittens, do you feel it is your responsibility to protect them? Who is protecting them from these "cat traps"? You? NOooooooo you set the traps! And you proceed to say, "And it doesn't seem to hurt them"... IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HURT THEM. So you're saying here, it does appear that it hurts them, but upon closer inspection one can see the cat is not hurt...is that what you are saying... Why don't you tell us what happens to the kitten that would cause you to post "doesn't seem to hurt them"... Do they jump up on the table, sniff the trap, set the trap off...but because of thier size you have observed they do not get caught in the trap, but the trap does go off in thier face, is that correct? IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US AND BRAGGING ABOUT? > IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US AND BRAGGING ABOUT? dang...I wish he'd reply, I wanna hurry up and get to the part about a jury of his peers! > How about if they're upside down under a sheet of paper? How about if I come visit and put your head under a sheet of paper? Would you still feel the hammer? SignatureEmail (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i-AT-e-c-t-DOT-o-r-g > How about if I come visit and put your head under a sheet of paper? > Would you still feel the hammer? or... put him in a room full of rat traps. Blindfolded. (lock the doors too) > > How about if I come visit and put your head under a sheet of paper? > > Would you still feel the hammer? > > or... put him in a room full of rat traps. > Blindfolded. (lock the doors too) Hey, kind of like a treasure hunt! I'd chip in five dollars for the prize. :) SignatureEmail (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i-AT-e-c-t-DOT-o-r-g > Hey, kind of like a treasure hunt! I'd chip in five dollars for the > prize. :) If he made it to the door (instead of sitting down in the floor and crying like a little bitch) he would no doubt get the water hose.(like his cat water pistolas) > > How about if they're upside down under a sheet of paper? > > How about if I come visit and put your head under a sheet of paper? > Would you still feel the hammer? He got the idea of using mousetraps from his wife. She sleeps with one between her legs to keep him off (out). > Those cats have learned who the boss is around here--that it is me, Try a penis enlarger- maybe it will help your feelings of inadequacy. If possession is 9/10 of the law- its *their*house because they're in it more than you. So *they're* the boss- and you're just a paranoid a.shole who needs to feel in control. <snip trollish sh.t> Isn't this the same yaboo who posted about shooting stray cats on his property last year??? CatNipped > <snip trollish sh.t> > > Isn't this the same yaboo who posted about shooting stray cats on his > property last year??? Yep. It's enough to turn one into a Netdick. :) Googling the hell out of new people. But then, you and I know that that is the first sign of The Illness. And we never, ever want to catch that. lol > > <snip trollish sh.t> > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > people. But then, you and I know that that is the first sign of The Illness. > And we never, ever want to catch that. lol Didn't have to google - he was obnoxious enough the first time to be memorable. Hugs, CatNipped > > > <snip trollish sh.t> > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Didn't have to google - he was obnoxious enough the first time to be > memorable. I wasn't saying that you Googled!! :) I remembered him too. > > > > <snip trollish sh.t> > > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I wasn't saying that you Googled!! :) I remembered him too. Oh, OK, I just wanted to be sure I was getting a rep as a googler! ;> Good gawd how awful would that be!! Hugs, CatNipped > > I wasn't saying that you Googled!! :) I remembered him too. > > Oh, OK, I just wanted to be sure I was getting a rep as a googler! ;> Good > gawd how awful would that be!! It would indeed. As we have seen around here, it can lead to even worse things. How are you holding up with the Christmas preparations with that house full? > > > I wasn't saying that you Googled!! :) I remembered him too. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How are you holding up with the Christmas preparations with that house full? I'm going from riches to rags company-wise! The girls will be in New Orleans over the two weeks they're out of school on Christmas vacation (from the 17th through the 30th), staying with their other Grandparents, so that Erin and Greg can get some work done on restoring their home. We're having Christmas on the night of the 16th while they're still here. Then Ben has to work all day Christmas Eve and all day Christmas. I'll be here all alone with the masters both days. So until then I'm be going nuts trying to get everything ready in the midst of their usual chaos, then I'll be crying in my beer when they're gone and the house is too quiet. Hugs, CatNipped > I'm going from riches to rags company-wise! well lets just hope they don't use usenet! > Hugs, > > CatNipped > > I'm going from riches to rags company-wise! > > well lets just hope they don't use usenet! don't even try, this makes no sense, I misunderstood your meaning. I thought you meant, like, trailer trash was coming for dinner. don't mind me. > > > I'm going from riches to rags company-wise! > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I thought you meant, like, trailer trash was coming for dinner. > don't mind me. LOL. Yeah, I can see how you got that. No, what I meant was that I'm going from a houseful of (delightful) company to no company at all for a while. I've gotten so used to the chaos of 3 children in the house (not counting my daughter who will always be my child) that I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when I rattling around all alone here. Hugs, CatNipped > LOL. Yeah, I can see how you got that. No, what I meant was that I'm going > from a houseful of (delightful) company to no company at all for a while. > I've gotten so used to the chaos of 3 children in the house (not counting my > daughter who will always be my child) that I don't know what I'm going to do > with myself when I rattling around all alone here. Well bummer! maybe you should slip off the the bahamas or something, FO REAL! Just jump! Go! Cruises are incredibly cheap since that one ship was fired upon by pirates (off the coast of east africa) they'll give you a real good cruise deal. Goto Dollywood, eat funnel cakes, ride rides, you know you like that old foggy mtn breakdown hillbilly stanley foot tappin, beer popping bluegrass.
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