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Male Cat Has Ongoing Skin Condition

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Steve B - 29 Nov 2005 23:13 GMT
Hi Folks. Our 10 year old male orange tabby has a nasty ongoing skin
condition that is about 4 inches long on his back. He is losing fur and
there are red scabs. He has been to the vet twice who said it was
allergy related. He told us to apply Advantage every 3 weeks because of
flea problems. Vet also gave him cortisone shot. None of these
treatments have cured the problem. He's an indoor outdoor guy. There
must be something we can do nutritionally to get this better. He eats
and sleeps well and has plenty of energy and spunk. His eyes are bright
and clear and he isn't depressed. Can someone here recommend a
treatment? The vet doesn't seem to know what to do. He's going bald
along his back. Thanx steve
No More  Retail - 29 Nov 2005 23:30 GMT
Steve do you trust this vet  I am going to say not  if you said he does not
know what is going on.  Vets are like Doctor's some will not admit if they
don't know

Steve did the vet take a culture, take blood work  and recommend you take
the cat to have an allergy test or  dermatology exam  if not  NEW VET TIME

It could be parasitic it could be allergy related   it could be a number of
things

this is  a link to Phil's website  with out test it  can't be determined
http://www.maxshouse.com/dermatologyIDX.htm

do you have a web cam or a digital camera  and be able to post a picture
link

Matthew

> Hi Folks. Our 10 year old male orange tabby has a nasty ongoing skin
> condition that is about 4 inches long on his back. He is losing fur and
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> treatment? The vet doesn't seem to know what to do. He's going bald
> along his back. Thanx steve
Steve B - 30 Nov 2005 01:27 GMT
> http://www.maxshouse.com/dermatologyIDX.htm

Hi. Thank you for the cat advice. Our vet is a very good basic vet and
has kept both cats as healthy as possible. The cat does get relief when
we keep up the Advantage and there is a link to flea allergy. So Calif
has been unusually hotter this winter and the fleas keep comin'.Cultures
and things weren't done, but blood work came out ok. He has always been
highstrung and hyperactive and gets into little dramas with the other
male cat. I think we will at least try out a prescription diet.
Phil P. - 30 Nov 2005 11:52 GMT
> > http://www.maxshouse.com/dermatologyIDX.htm
>
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> highstrung and hyperactive and gets into little dramas with the other
> male cat. I think we will at least try out a prescription diet.

Steve, instead of beginning a trial and error pattern, I think you'll save a
lot of time, money and discomfort for your cat if you opt for a skin
scraping or a skin biopsy right off the bat.

Best of luck,

Phil
Gail - 30 Nov 2005 03:03 GMT
I wonder if your cat has granuloma. See this site
http://www.fabcats.org/eosinophilicgranuloma.html. I also have a cat with
this condition. I  use Frontline and when he had flare ups (in spring and
fall) bring him to the vet for a cortizone injection.
Gail
> Hi Folks. Our 10 year old male orange tabby has a nasty ongoing skin
> condition that is about 4 inches long on his back. He is losing fur and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> treatment? The vet doesn't seem to know what to do. He's going bald
> along his back. Thanx steve
Gail - 30 Nov 2005 03:04 GMT
Here is more info on the condition:
http://www.vetinfo.com/ceosinophilic.html
>I wonder if your cat has granuloma. See this site
>http://www.fabcats.org/eosinophilicgranuloma.html. I also have a cat with
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>> treatment? The vet doesn't seem to know what to do. He's going bald
>> along his back. Thanx steve
Steve B - 30 Nov 2005 17:46 GMT
> http://www.vetinfo.com/ceosinophilic.html

Thanks to everyone who posted their advice. I checked the sites
recommended and our cat's condition doesn't resemble any of those
symptoms. He has always been a nervous scratcher to get attention. We
feel he also might have an ongoing yeast infection due to several
courses of antibiotics for ear infections. BTW, we have been cleaning
his ears with tea tree oil and hperoxide when he gets "coffee grounds"
built up and his ears are clear as a bell. The vet also hunches a food
allergy, so we are going to slowly switch him over to a rotational diet
and check his symptoms. We give him a bit of yoghurt and that seems to
help. We will also have a skin scraping and see what that reveals. Keep
the advice coming. Kitty appreciates your concern as well. steveb
Phil P. - 30 Nov 2005 19:42 GMT
> > http://www.vetinfo.com/ceosinophilic.html

BTW, we have been cleaning
> his ears with tea tree oil

Tea tree oil contains *terpenes* which are *toxic* to cats.  Cats don't have
the enzyme needed to detoxify terpines. Terpines are readily absorbed
through a cat's skin and should not be used.

Get an ear cleaner from your vet and ask him to show you how to clean a
cat's ear.  Never put a Q-Tip in
the ear canal- it pushes debris farther down the canal and produces pressure
against the eardrum which can cause it to rupture.

If your cat gags or coughs or swallows when you put liquid in his ear: STOP
and take him right to the vet. Gagging or swallowing is a pretty good
indication that the eardrum (tympanic membrane) is ruptured (the liquid
flowed through the ruptured eardrum, into the middle ear, and through the
eustachian tube and into the pharynx).

If your cat's ears need frequent cleaning- there's something wrong that
needs to be investigated.  Cats' ears are generally self-cleaning due to the
lateral migration of epithelial cells (skin cells that line the ear canal)
away from the eardrum (tympanum).
Frequent cleaning can also traumatize and ulcerate the epithelium lining the
canal and cause inflammation- which usually results in increased production
of wax (cerumen).
Paige, Chloe & Webber - 01 Dec 2005 02:30 GMT
I agree with the ear thing. From my experience I thought that cofee
ground looking stuff in the cats ears can be from ear mites.  Have you
check into that possibility?

Also our cat has allergies (environmental allergies as well as flea
allergies) so she gets Frontline religiously every month (as well as
her brother just to prevent any infestation); she also is on Science
Diet Sensitive Skin dry food and gets fatty acid supplement every day.
At first when she had scratched herself bald we thought it might be a
food allergy.  Switched her over to Feline Z/D and still no progress.
The cortisone shots didn't even really help until we started her on
Frontline. Cats with flea allergies can have severe reactions from the
single bite of just one flea.  They are also very good at grooming and
you may never actually see a flea on him, but if he is allergic, a bite
can precipitate a problem for days.  I really prefer Frontline because
it kills all stages of the flea and also contains a flea repellent (to
prevent the flea from even biting).  We were almost at the stage of
getting allergy skin testing on her when the frontline started to show
that it was helping.  She still has flareups a couple times a year
(other allergies...pets with flea allergies are prone to having other
allergies as well).  As a matter of fact she just got another steroid
shot yesterday from scratching a new bald spot.
Good luck and I hope that you find the cause.  I know that it was about
a year until we seemed to find the cause and it is still a continuous
problem but much more managable.  Sorry this is so long I just have
learned alot from the whole experience and just want to help with the
frustrations that I know you must be feeling.

Paige

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