Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2005
Rabid Cats
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whitershadeofpale - 19 Nov 2005 02:52 GMT This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. You just never hear of it I guess.
I suppose caution should be used when handling strays.
MaryL - 19 Nov 2005 03:22 GMT > This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. > You just never hear of it I guess. > > I suppose caution should be used when handling strays. I think almost *any* mammal can carry rabies, although some are more noted for it than others. So, yes, you should take care in handling animals -- although you are more likely to face problems from infection than from rabies. However, if bitten, it is *essential* to contact a doctor ASAP, especially if it is a cat not under your control (and therefore one that can be quarantined).
MaryL
Diane - 19 Nov 2005 03:41 GMT > > This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. > > You just never hear of it I guess. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I think almost *any* mammal can carry rabies, although some are more noted > for it than others. It's Carnivora and bats only that transmit it.
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sriddles@aol.com - 19 Nov 2005 04:34 GMT > > > This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. > > > You just never hear of it I guess. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It's Carnivora and bats only that transmit it. But cattle can also transmit rabies to humans. They are herbivore, right?
Sherry
> -- > Web site: http://www.slywy.com/ > Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ > Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ MaryL - 19 Nov 2005 04:34 GMT >> > This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. >> > You just never hear of it I guess. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's Carnivora and bats only that transmit it. Not quite true. For example, even opossums can carry rabies (although it's rare).
MaryL
No More Retail - 19 Nov 2005 04:41 GMT Folks any mammal or warm blood creature can carry and trasmit rabies below is a quote from the cdc
It is not a fun disease I have had the Imovax vaccine 5 times so far the treatment sucks big time
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/rabies/
What animals get rabies?
A: Any mammal can get rabies. The most common wild reservoirs of rabies are raccoons, skunks, bats, foxes, and coyotes. Domestic mammals can also get rabies. Cats, cattle, and dogs are the most frequently reported rabid domestic animals in the United States
Diane - 19 Nov 2005 10:28 GMT > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/rabies/ > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > rabies. Cats, cattle, and dogs are the most frequently reported rabid > domestic animals in the United States Well, I sit corrected. When I heard a speaker on rabies from the CDC address this, he said that carnivores and bats are the transmitters (that others can get it); a lot of his explanation had to do with how the disease progresses.
Cows -- between mad cow, rabies, etc., they're thinking -- IT'S PAYBACK TIME!
BTW, a cousin had to get a rabies series (bat bit him), and it was so pleasant, he skipped the last one.
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§cratch - 19 Nov 2005 12:28 GMT > Well, I sit corrected. lol
>When I heard a speaker on rabies from the CDC > address this, he said that carnivores and bats are the transmitters [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cows -- between mad cow, rabies, etc., they're thinking -- IT'S PAYBACK > TIME! it's a series of shot into the stomach right with a long needle that was just from memory, I might be thinking of another cure
sriddles@aol.com - 19 Nov 2005 14:35 GMT > Cows -- between mad cow, rabies, etc., they're thinking -- IT'S PAYBACK > TIME! > > BTW, a cousin had to get a rabies series (bat bit him), and it was so > pleasant, he skipped the last one. Diane, my DH had to take the rabies series way back in the early 70's. He quit midway through. We were 18 years old at the time. Anyway, it *was* horrible. The health department, sheriff's department and doctor's office was calling night and day. He never did finish it. They say God looks after fools and children. Proof positive.
No More Retail - 19 Nov 2005 18:18 GMT Depending on the vaccine series depends on where you get them yes the one I got all where in the stomach
sriddles@aol.com - 19 Nov 2005 18:51 GMT > Depending on the vaccine series depends on where you get them yes the one I > got all where in the stomach Yes, they were all in the stomache. I can't remember whether it was a 21-injection series or 28. After about 10 days he was deathly sick and getting sicker everytime he got one. I've heard the treatment is vastly improved now. That was more than 30 years ago.
Sherry
Phil P. - 20 Nov 2005 19:57 GMT > > Cows -- between mad cow, rabies, etc., they're thinking -- IT'S PAYBACK > > TIME! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > *was* horrible. The health department, sheriff's department and > doctor's office was calling night and day. I got bit pretty bad a few years ago- because I was stupid- and required medical attention. The hospital is required to report cat bites to the BOH who proceeded to hound every day about getting shots. I finally got them off my back by telling them I would get the rabies shots in my eyeballs if they could produce *one* documented case of cat-vectored rabies in a human in my state *ever*. They never bothered me again.
They also wanted the cat. I told them the cat ran away- otherwise they would have unnecessarily quarantined the cat or worse, decapitated the cat to examine the brain. They usually decapitate the cat only if the cat has any wounds or symptoms- but they're known for "not taking any chances" and decapitating the cats anyway. So, I didn't want to "take any chances" that they would not take any chances.
Phil
No More Retail - 19 Nov 2005 03:44 GMT Barry when we get a new addition to the shelter we use heavy gloves and clothing to handle them. they get quarantined for about 30 days depending on what vaccinations. There are warning signs for infected and active rabid animals. Make sure you get your update shots before doing this
> This sounds silly, but I didn't know cats could carry rabies. > You just never hear of it I guess. > > I suppose caution should be used when handling strays. sriddles@aol.com - 19 Nov 2005 14:37 GMT > Barry when we get a new addition to the shelter we use heavy gloves and > clothing to handle them. they get quarantined for about 30 days depending [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > I suppose caution should be used when handling strays. One of the best investments we ever made was a good pair of Kevlar gloves. Up until then, we just used welding gloves. They're so expensive though, I wig out everytime I see someone has left them lying around carelessly. But they are worth it.
Sherry
Phil P. - 19 Nov 2005 21:53 GMT > One of the best investments we ever made was a good pair of Kevlar > gloves. Up until then, we just used welding gloves. They're so > expensive though, You got them! Aren't they great? Did you get the 18"s or 14"s? They make you feel brave don't they? LOL!
I wig out everytime I see someone has left them lying
> around carelessly. I hate lending them out because regardless of what you tell the people, they still think they're "just gloves"!
> But they are worth it. Absolutely!
Phil.
whitershadeofpale - 19 Nov 2005 21:59 GMT > > But they are worth it. > > Absolutely! > > Phil. i wouldn't want to lend them out..someone might have just scratched dey a.s
sriddles@aol.com - 20 Nov 2005 03:12 GMT > > One of the best investments we ever made was a good pair of Kevlar > > gloves. Up until then, we just used welding gloves. They're so > > expensive though, > > You got them! Aren't they great? Did you get the 18"s or 14"s? They make > you feel brave don't they? LOL! Oh, yeah I did order them. I'd forgotten we had discussed that. I got the 18". I didn't order a second pair for home because of the cost, but I think I will someday. I'd only use them on a rare occasion, but man, when you need them they're great to have.
Sherry
Phil P. - 20 Nov 2005 08:11 GMT > > > One of the best investments we ever made was a good pair of Kevlar > > > gloves. Up until then, we just used welding gloves. They're so [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think I will someday. I'd only use them on a rare occasion, but man, > when you need them they're great to have. Yeah, they're like bullet-proof vests- it only takes once to justify the price. Cat bites with those little daggers can cause osteomyelitis or septic arthritis or even menigitis.
Phil
sriddles@aol.com - 20 Nov 2005 16:27 GMT > Yeah, they're like bullet-proof vests- it only takes once to justify the > price. Cat bites with those little daggers can cause osteomyelitis or > septic arthritis or even menigitis. > > Phil Ooo. Good analagy. The old adage "you get what you pay for" really applies here. If anybody out there is still using welding gloves, you won't believe the difference in a good pair of Kevlar gloves that are *designed* for animal handling. They're not so cumbersome and just fit better. And you *do* feel injury-proof. That alone helps that you're concentrating on what you're doing, not worrying about getting hurt.
Sherry
No More Retail - 20 Nov 2005 16:47 GMT They work had a set since they came out mine go up to past the elbow
I have a set of the anti shark armor for the wetsuit they work great when dealing with very large dogs or mother in laws
Phil P. - 20 Nov 2005 19:54 GMT > > Yeah, they're like bullet-proof vests- it only takes once to justify the > > price. Cat bites with those little daggers can cause osteomyelitis or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > better. And you *do* feel injury-proof. That alone helps that you're > concentrating on what you're doing, not worrying about getting hurt. You're absolutely right.
There's a night and day difference in dexterity between welder's or electrician's and kevlar gloves. I've also seen kevlar gloves that have removable shields on the back- but these are better for handling dogs since they have bone-crushing bite force.
The kevlar gloves also allow you handle the cat more gently. I love 'em.
Phil
merryva@webtv.net - 19 Nov 2005 12:44 GMT hi, i'm a lurker but this thread really hits home. last sunday i was bitten by a stray cat. i knew better than to pet it but had been feeding it and it was so friendly. i think it might be a neighbor cat who doesn't really take care of it very well.
anyway, my hand swelled up and the next day i had to report it (a law in Virginia) and go to doc and get tetnus shot and on very strong augmentin for a week. i had to capture the cat (not a problem, like i said, he seems very gentle except for the bite) and take to the humane society for a 10 day quarantine.
to date, cat is fine, i'm fine but i learned a very valuable lesson with thinking every cat is my friend. what will happen to the cat if its ok? of course i will adopt it and do all the proper shots/spay/neuter, etc and hopefully give it a home if it doesn't run back to wherever it came from. i already have 5 cats (all indoor) but this one deserves a chance too.
so take caution when dealing with stray cats or any animals. and cross your fingers i'm rabid free !! LOL
amary
whitershadeofpale - 19 Nov 2005 13:00 GMT merr...@webtv.net wrote:
> so take caution when dealing with stray cats or any animals. and cross > your fingers i'm rabid free !! LOL > > amary I'm in Virginia too.
sorry you got bit! I reckon he didn't know what you was planning for him.
but you're hand swole up! That's what someone was saying, infection is a more common danger than rabies.
Hope the swelling is going down!
No More Retail - 20 Nov 2005 02:25 GMT Did you tell them that you wanted to adopt the cat? If you didn't from my calculations you still have time to make the call due to quarantine holdings Not saying it will happen but unless it is a no kill shelter and a very young cat the cat specially since it has bite some one. The cat will be put in line for being put to sleep after the quarantine. Most shelters here in Florida are about 3 days max for animals that bite.
The shelter should have a person that can determine if the cat has any behavioral problems that you need to know about. I saw that you try to pet it but how did it happen did you try to pet it when you put food down? or did you scary the firball by accident? My experience if it was just a nip they tend to be a warning of don't do that. If it was a deep bite attack with scratches where the cat attacked and kept biting. You might have a problem!. There are plenty of people out here that can help you in that line.
If you are able to adopt him let us know what happens. Please on both fronts how you are doing from the bite and how the cat is doing. As if you need help with the spaying and shots I or some one else can direct you to low cost clinics where ever your area is in Virginia
Matthew aka No More Retail
> hi, i'm a lurker but this thread really hits home. last sunday i was > bitten by a stray cat. i knew better than to pet it but had been [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > amary whitershadeofpale - 21 Nov 2005 04:28 GMT > Did you tell them that you wanted to adopt the cat? If you didn't from > my calculations you still have time to make the call due to quarantine > holdi....paying and shots I or some one else can direct you to > low cost clinics where ever your area is in Virginia > > Matthew aka No More Retail oh just stifle it Edith will ya!
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