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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2005What do you think.
Just got in this morning, (zero hour 9 am) was at the beach eating when we left the restaurant one of my girlfriends had a doggie bag... we saw a cat under our car..she goes...oooo! lemme feed this to the kitty! She calls the little fella out...and then another pokes his head out of the bushes.. she calls him...then another, and another.. I lost count at around 20, somewhere between 20 to 25 beautiful cats were ganged up around us eating from this little carton... It was funny, there was no cussing among the cats, no pushing, they we're so nice to each other, and many of them looked alike in the face...very pretty cats. Soo... we are going to start a shelter (a private shelter), but ultimately the city will pay for these services to the public. 20 CATS it was very very cool! So how are most shelters setup anyway, private or by the city, or by an animal lover(s) who just takes it upon themselves (like in our case)... On Tue 15 Nov 2005 04:10:16p, whitershadeofpale wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:1132089016.390766.34050 @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com): > Soo... we are going to start a shelter (a private shelter), but > ultimately the city will pay for these services to the public. U rock. Good luck!  SignatureCheryl > Soo... we are going to start a shelter (a private shelter), but > ultimately the city will pay for these services to the public. > > 20 CATS it was very very cool! I've taken to doing the street mission approach myself. The wife and I started with 4 indoor cats. This past April a mom had 4 kittens in our crawl space. One of the twin white ones was snatched up by a neighbor for a pet. The mom and 3 remaining babies kept showing up for chow. A really beautiful long haired female we call Puff joined. One of the earlier travelers we called Scruffy due to his patchy fur loss became a regular. Another female showed up who took over keeping the kittens company when mom decided to wean them. We call her Nanny. An old shy red tom we call Sad Eyes comes around and has lost much of his fear of us. We can get close enough to touch but he prefers if we don't - a far cry from the days when he would run and hide when the door opened. Scruffy's hair has grown back in nicely, mom cat doesn't have the emaciated protruding hips anymore. One of the babies, a male tabby we called Bubbles decided he wanted to see what house life was all about a few weeks back. He is now house cat number 5. All told we have up to 9 regulars that show up at any given time - usually at least 6 make it to every feeding. These are in addition to our 5 inside cats. We go through an 18 pound bag of dry food every week in addition to treats and a mixture of leftovers. With winter coming on, I've built the crew a plywood shelter. The floor is elevated on 2x2's, insulated beneath with blue foam insulation as are the walls and removable roof. The roof is shingled in regular tar paper and household shingles. The rest of the structure is wrapped in Tyvek and covered with vinyl siding to match the exterior of our home. A heating pad beneath the bedding goes in soon. Temps are just now dipping into the 30's at night. It's not at all surprising to see 5 or 6 of the strays at a time inside the 'hootch'. It measures 24 inches square by 16 inches high with a 2 inch pitch to the roof. Mission work with the strays takes on a life of it's own. > Mission work with the strays takes on a life of it's own. That's very kind of you. I know it has it's rewards. I have about 5 that feed outside my door every night. Initially they ate soo much, but I think they must be feeling better and safer, they are not eating AS much, but plenty. I don't interact with them at all..I just hear them munching, if I open the door they scatter like leaves. I have an old cinderblock wood shed out back, I gotta remove the rotted firewood and then I will put a heat source out there. Probably a heat lamp. It's all well suited since the building is inside a privacy fence; you know...real cozy. Are you ready for it Barry it is a lot of money, and emotional stress > Are you ready for it Barry it is a lot of money, and emotional stress heck yeah! I don't know in what way I will be involved, initially or ongoing...I'll do what I am able to do. As I say, these ladies are the driving brains and force behind the matter. I consider it a priveledge to see a shelter operation built from scratch. How long have you been doing the work you do at you're shelter. 20 + years > 20 + years That is more years than I have been alive...hehehe! Well the whole thing should be very interesting, and in many ways...life changing. Are you folks not able to get money from your county or city? I'm thinking part of the reason some can get the city to fund a shelter, is if it becomes win win for the community on more than one level..(like in the case of hiring recovering addicts?) Beside my self the cat society receive grant money that we apply for every year from the state to be honest the money pays the 3 vets salary we have on staff plus the other workers. The city do nothing for us , county does food donations, the cut from the ASPCA yearly donation to Florida, the rest you can guess where it comes from We don't go out and solicited money We do ,do charity drives and that money usually goes for hurricane season . We do shot clinics but only money made pays for the shots. The local school does some charity work for us and the money gets donated to our foster families. This year I think I will give my tax accountant another heart attack. This would be the second one from the hurricanes last year and all my out of pocket expenses. This year was worse while I was in New Orleans. < still shuddering from the events out there > You are that young lucky you do not let it pass you by The 20 years was not all doing what I do now it started out a few hours a week a day here 2 days her you know how it goes but for the last 5 years it has been 30 - 40 a week volunteer work > Beside my self the cat society receive grant money that we apply for every > year from the state to be honest the money...I do now it started out a few hours a week a day here > 2 days her you know how it goes but for the last 5 years it has been 30 - > 40 a week volunteer work I think the hours go with the territory, (wherever your treasure is, that's where your heart is) One cannot give anymore of themselves time and money? You sound very resourceful, at some point you are looking to pass the mantle on to someone? If something were to happen that you cannot participate in all the ways that you do...someone will need to write the grants. I for one, should learn the art of grant writing. > > 20 + years > > That is more years than I have been alive...hehehe! Oh FCS. You mean I could have birthed you? > Well the whole thing should be very interesting, and in many > ways...life changing. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > win win for the community on more than one level..(like in the case of > hiring recovering addicts?) Very unlikely unless there is no municpal shelter. Animals aren't a priority for most cities; hell, they can't even take care of their people. -L. > Very unlikely unless there is no municpal shelter. Animals aren't a > priority for most cities; hell, they can't even take care of their > people. > > -L. you're right people should come first but in practice, the doers probably lack motivation towards the so called needy. Criteria to "qualify" someone becomes stringent (and rightfully so with so much abuse) I think it should be viewed differently, seeing that animals are helpless. I am very new to this, I imagine there are horrible stories about cities that could make a difference but will not. Barry you are young and I will say this I hope you never have to see the horrors I and others have seen while working in rescue. I think beside the cruelty case that the cat hoarders are the worse experience. The smell you will never forget it is always the same at every house. Now I am going to admit I have been handcuffed and hauled away to jail before for beating the hell out of an animal abuser>. There has been times where my I had to keep calm with dealing with cat hoarders; I have to remember that they are sick in the head and can't help it or they got in over their heads and had god intentions. It gets to you sometime Barry the tears flow and you can't help it. I think I cried for two weeks straight after Katrina. AS in the money part the city could f.cking care less Every time I and others have stood up in front of the commissars and asked for help. We sorry the animal control is not a priority. The media gets involved when it suits them That site I recommended has when you order on cd a free copy of how to write for grants plus you are young you can get the grants to go for college for free. If you can do it :-) Matthew aka No More Retail > Barry you are young and I will say this I hope you never have to see the > horrors I and others have seen while working in rescue. > > Matthew aka No More Retail Me neither. I don't get angry with people because of thier ignorance, I seem to have the gift of mercy, and a willingness to leave a better attitude with them, but I do get angry at people who as you say, don't give a rip. But even then, I don't spend much mental time on it, life is too fragile. Well, I appreciate all the experienced advice! I'm thinking it will be around Jan / Feb, before anything gets set into motion. and, Im just going along for the ride; I will see how these women do this thing. Remember: What Columbus set out to discover Isabelle already knew! I'm saying, the same thing brutha! pussy rules the world! oh yeah. Im not being vulgar but REAL! Women are running this thing. We be lucky if we get some of the action. Im just going to sit back and learn. <whips out a soapbox> when I was a boy crossing the street to goto school a woman crossing guard helped me across the street. when I got to school a woman taught me! when I got my first job and took my check to the bank, a woman handed me CASH! a woman broke my heart! (more than once) A woman subdued KING KONG! A woman ended unfair racial practices all across america! I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD HELP ME JUST NOW! Can I get an Amen? Can I buy and Amen? Ya'll ain't hearing me! ain't nobody listening to me! > <whips out a soapbox> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ya'll ain't hearing me! ain't nobody listening to me! Whatcha need, shug? :) > Whatcha need, shug? :) Well, just knowing someone is there is enough for me for now All things are possible. I wrote a little song the other day, the bridge goes... "Everything can change in a minute, Godbless the child who believes... in possibility"..."Take a walk on the brightside" Sometimes I think I'm trying to take too big a bite out of life... but I'm learning the secret > > Whatcha need, shug? :) > > Well, just knowing someone is there is enough for me for now Here I am. Many names, one heart. > All things are possible. You bet. > > All things are possible. > > You bet. Cool beans! I cleaned out the cinderblock building behind the house. Put 3 couch cushions out there and an old down jacket. (its for the ferals) I still have some insulating to do, I left trails of food all around the house leading into the unit. Now I need a 100' USB cable so I can see. They won't let me near them. I think I will find some big sturdy boxes, and make them some apartments. A house in house...this will certainly get them through below zero temperatures. If it snows deep enough, then I should give them a litter box, I reckon they will appreciate that. ever heard of wireless > ever heard of wireless ZZZIIIING! Even Better! > > ever heard of wireless > > ZZZIIIING! > > Even Better! I admit, I do not understand wireless. We have it, and I have it at the hotels I stay in when I travel, but I do not even begin to understand it. I am not sure I need to. Is NMR talking about a wireless cam?? Yes I was I am sorry should have said so instead of 100' USB cheaper also I got a list of what is being sold on Black Friday "whitershadeofpale" <bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> wrote : I cleaned out the cinderblock building behind the house. > Put 3 couch cushions out there and an old down jacket. (its for the > ferals) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If it snows deep enough, then I should give them a litter box, I reckon > they will appreciate that. How big is this structure? > "whitershadeofpale" <bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> wrote : > > I cleaned out the cinderblock building behind the house. > > How big is this structure? probably around, 9' x 9' maybe a little bigger... 81 SF you see it on the satellite maps? lol Im sure you can > > "whitershadeofpale" <bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> wrote : > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Im sure you can I had no idea this was your sock. :) > I had no idea this was your sock. :) that's not my sock! I have no idea who that nut is... sometimes I think they stalk me, what can I do > Im sure you can don't be answering for me! My storage is exactly 10 x 10 and don't be lookin at my house on the satellite maps! (unless you plan on sending donations) |
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