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Elizabeth  Blake - 09 Nov 2005 02:54 GMT
http://www.nydailynews.com//front/story/363609p-309552c.html

     Does this explain that crazy lady in Apt. 5B?

     BY JORDAN LITE
     DAILY NEWS HEALTH WRITER

     Can your cat make you crazy?
     Dr. Fuller Torrey is studying whether a parasite in Fluffy's droppings
causes schizophrenia, a mental illness that strikes 2.2 million Americans
and is characterized by hallucinations, delusions and trouble regulating
emotions.

     The Washington-area psychiatrist has found that people with
schizophrenia were more likely to have had pet cats as young children, or
their mothers kept the animals during their pregnancies. Torrey is now
testing antibiotics against the feline parasite Toxoplasma gondii to treat
schizophrenia, according to an article in the December issue of Esquire. "My
wife thinks I'm probably ultimately going to be assassinated by [cat
lovers]," Torrey told the Daily News yesterday. Still, "Not only cats, but
virtually all animals carry transmissible agents, and some carry
transmissible agents that have had profound implications for the human
race."

     Torrey, president of the Stanley Medical Research Institute, believes
that swallowing or breathing parasitic spores from cat waste causes
schizophrenia. While hardly conventional wisdom, his theory is part of
scientists' growing interest in the potential environmental influences on
the development of mental illnesses, said Dr. Donna Anthony, clinical
program director for psychotic disorders at New York-Presbyterian
Hospital/Westchester.

     While today most experts believe that schizophrenia is inherited, some
psychiatrists of the past blamed it on a patient's upbringing.

     "I don't think the cause [from cats] is so direct, but certainly all
the research into possible contributions of [infections] before birth and in
early childhood bringing out a predisposition to schizophrenia is a
productive line of research," Anthony said.

     Torrey advises parents not to buy pet cats for young children, and to
cover their sandboxes to prevent cats from using them as litter boxes.

     But his theory shouldn't prompt cat lovers to abandon their furry
friends, said Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, chairman of psychiatry at Columbia
University Medical Center.

     "I wouldn't get rid of my pet just on the basis of this theoretical
speculation - unless you are looking for a reason to get rid of it anyway,"
Lie-berman said.

     Originally published on November 8, 2005
No More  Retail - 09 Nov 2005 03:12 GMT
I think I am going to go have to pay this person a visit.
I think a game of baseball is in order with his head as the ball?
Anyone up for a drive I will pay for the gas ;-)
Juls - 09 Nov 2005 03:25 GMT
> I think I am going to go have to pay this person a visit.
>  I think a game of baseball is in order with his head as the ball?
> Anyone up for a drive I will pay for the gas ;-)

He's 900 years old, or close to it, if you get my drift. ;-)

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Juls - 09 Nov 2005 03:20 GMT
Oh good god. E Fuller Torrey not only is a fascist (who believes persons
with psychiatric illness, including depression, should be put back in
their place....in state hospitals), he's been trying to promote this
cats cause schizophrenia for years and years.

Fortunately, few people take him seriously these days. He's a crank with
a basement full of brains. There's no evidence for this theory, but he
just can't let it go. Poor guy keeps hoping he's going to be the new
Barry Warren (the researcher who was convinced H. Pylori caused ulcers
and recently won the Nobel Prize for it)

Not shooting the messenger, Elizabeth...I'm glad you posted. I didn't
realize he was still trying to get anyone to listen to this nonsense.
The Daily News is about ten years late with this story.

Juls

p.s. In some circles, he's known as E Fuller Toiletry.

> http://www.nydailynews.com//front/story/363609p-309552c.html
>
>       Does this explain that crazy lady in Apt. 5B?

>       BY JORDAN LITE
>       DAILY NEWS HEALTH WRITER
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>
>       Originally published on November 8, 2005

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Karen - 09 Nov 2005 03:42 GMT
> Oh good god. E Fuller Torrey not only is a fascist (who believes
> persons with psychiatric illness, including depression, should be put
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> p.s. In some circles, he's known as E Fuller Toiletry.

Me thinks someone needs to alert the ny daily news that they are really
scratching the depths for their stories.
mlbriggs - 09 Nov 2005 17:52 GMT
> Oh good god. E Fuller Torrey not only is a fascist (who believes persons
> with psychiatric illness, including depression, should be put back in
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>>       Originally published on November 8, 2005

Perhaps he speaks from experience -- his parents had lots of kitties while
"expecting" him.  And, of course, he played with kitties from babyhood.  
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Elizabeth  Blake - 10 Nov 2005 04:58 GMT
> Not shooting the messenger, Elizabeth...I'm glad you posted. I didn't
> realize he was still trying to get anyone to listen to this nonsense.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> p.s. In some circles, he's known as E Fuller Toiletry.

I'd never heard of this guy before.  I thought the story was pretty funny,
but the sad thing is there are people who will read it and believe it.  It's
in a newspaper, after all!  There was a quote at the end of the article:
>       But his theory shouldn't prompt cat lovers to abandon their furry
> friends, said Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, chairman of psychiatry at Columbia
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> anyway,"
> Lieberman said.

You know there are idiots out there that WILL use this as an excuse to get
rid of their cats.  He couldn't just shut up after the word "speculation"?

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Liz
Frank Pittel - 09 Nov 2005 04:08 GMT
I don't know if the can make you crazy. I do know that they can
drive you out of your mind and drive a grown man to drink!! :-)

: http://www.nydailynews.com//front/story/363609p-309552c.html

:       Does this explain that crazy lady in Apt. 5B?

:       BY JORDAN LITE
:       DAILY NEWS HEALTH WRITER

:       Can your cat make you crazy?
:       Dr. Fuller Torrey is studying whether a parasite in Fluffy's droppings
: causes schizophrenia, a mental illness that strikes 2.2 million Americans
: and is characterized by hallucinations, delusions and trouble regulating
: emotions.

:       The Washington-area psychiatrist has found that people with
: schizophrenia were more likely to have had pet cats as young children, or
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: transmissible agents that have had profound implications for the human
: race."

:       Torrey, president of the Stanley Medical Research Institute, believes
: that swallowing or breathing parasitic spores from cat waste causes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
: program director for psychotic disorders at New York-Presbyterian
: Hospital/Westchester.

:       While today most experts believe that schizophrenia is inherited, some
: psychiatrists of the past blamed it on a patient's upbringing.

:       "I don't think the cause [from cats] is so direct, but certainly all
: the research into possible contributions of [infections] before birth and in
: early childhood bringing out a predisposition to schizophrenia is a
: productive line of research," Anthony said.

:       Torrey advises parents not to buy pet cats for young children, and to
: cover their sandboxes to prevent cats from using them as litter boxes.

:       But his theory shouldn't prompt cat lovers to abandon their furry
: friends, said Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, chairman of psychiatry at Columbia
: University Medical Center.

:       "I wouldn't get rid of my pet just on the basis of this theoretical
: speculation - unless you are looking for a reason to get rid of it anyway,"
: Lie-berman said.

:       Originally published on November 8, 2005

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No More  Retail - 09 Nov 2005 04:17 GMT
Frank  that is a woman not a cat it takes at least 2 cats to drive a man
crazy ;-)
whitershadeofpale - 09 Nov 2005 12:09 GMT
> Frank  that is a woman not a cat it takes at least 2 cats to drive a man
> crazy ;-)

My friend takes her little esspresso drinking dog to the vet, she tells
the vet
my dog needs a chill pill

My freind comes back and says, there was nothing wrong with the dog, it
was me!
The vet told her SHE needed a valium, not the dog.

Two for me please! :0
Wayne Mitchell - 09 Nov 2005 15:37 GMT
> it takes at least 2 cats to drive a man
>crazy ;-)

If there is only one cat in the household, he or she can usually
drive the resident slave(s) around the bend unaided.  But it
certainly is more fun, for cats and slaves alike, if there are
more cats to share the job.

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Frank Pittel - 09 Nov 2005 22:42 GMT
: Frank  that is a woman not a cat it takes at least 2 cats to drive a man
: crazy ;-)

I'm not going to comment on you distinction between men and woman tolerances
to being driven crazy. :-) I do know that I have 2 cats (just over a year old)
and they're doing their level best to drive me crazy. :-) :-)

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No More  Retail - 09 Nov 2005 23:22 GMT
See it is true you got two cats! They tag team don't they.  Imagine having 6
plus a wife and a mother in law  it is always in 2's  :-))))))))))))

And don't worry about commenting  Woman know they drive us crazy  just like
we drive them crazy.  I always say don't try to figure women or cats out
just go with the flow and do your best to keep your head above water. ;-)
 
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