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kelly andgary - 11 Mar 2004 21:18 GMT
I've had a cat for some four years now.  Recently I introduced into our
home a 6 month old kitten.

As a given....he is full of energy and likes to play.  The older feline
is game a lot of the time but there are times she is clearly annoyed and
becomes angry.  Wanting no part of his youthful wrestling and biting
(etc). she hisses and growls but the youngster remains undaunted.  Many
is the time I've seen her tearing through our home, the little one hot
on her tail (and loving it).

If it were the other way around, I could figure it out, but what I'm
asking your help about is:

how can I make some linda place (a refuge) where the big cat can get
away from the little cat when she's dead serious about not playing.

Thanks,

Kelly
Karen - 11 Mar 2004 21:31 GMT
> I've had a cat for some four years now.  Recently I introduced into our
> home a 6 month old kitten.
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>
> Kelly

I'd make a place to put the little one for time out and let Linda stay out.

Karen
Yngver - 11 Mar 2004 21:34 GMT
>how can I make some linda place (a refuge) where the big cat can get
>away from the little cat when she's dead serious about not playing.

That might be a tough one, since presumably any place she can jump or climb to,
he can too. Maybe a roost of some sort that has only room for one cat--if she
gets up there and he comes after, she can bat him away. He won't try to jump up
on top of her, will he? However, I expect in a couple months your problem will
be much less severe, since at eight or nine months he is not going to have as
much of that kitten energy and will be less rambunctious.
Wendy - 11 Mar 2004 22:09 GMT
However, I expect in a couple months your problem will
> be much less severe, since at eight or nine months he is not going to have as
> much of that kitten energy and will be less rambunctious.

I don't know about that. Boots is 7 mo. old and still taking flying leaps
across the room to pounce on the girls. Even Isabelle is running out of
patience with him. If he gets too persistent he gets a time out for a few
minutes to settle down. That usually works for a while and he really doesn't
seem to mind most of the time.

W
m. L. Briggs - 12 Mar 2004 01:09 GMT
> However, I expect in a couple months your problem will
>> be much less severe, since at eight or nine months he is not going to have
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>
>W

How about a time out room for the kitten?
Wendy - 12 Mar 2004 11:57 GMT
> > However, I expect in a couple months your problem will
> >> be much less severe, since at eight or nine months he is not going to have
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> >
> How about a time out room for the kitten?

Sorry I must not have been clear. When he gets out of hand he does get a
time out in the bathroom (fully equipped with box and water). A bit of time
in there does settle him down.

W
Yngver - 12 Mar 2004 15:45 GMT
>I don't know about that. Boots is 7 mo. old and still taking flying leaps
>across the room to pounce on the girls. Even Isabelle is running out of
>patience with him. If he gets too persistent he gets a time out for a few
>minutes to settle down. That usually works for a while and he really doesn't
>seem to mind most of the time.

Well, sooner or later kittens do grow up and slow down some. When I look at
videos of our cats from when they were less than a year old, they were the
typical manic balls of energy that most kittens are. Once they become adults
they tend to be more, you know, dignified. I'm not saying they all become
sedate, but you will see a change--eventually.

Plus, kittens are often fairly oblivious to the disapproval of their adult
feline companions. A warning hiss or a smack with a paw doesn't have quite the
same effect it normally does when they mature. They get better at learning the
signals the other cat gives to tell them it's not fun any more (usually).
MGW - 12 Mar 2004 15:54 GMT
>Plus, kittens are often fairly oblivious to the disapproval of their adult
>feline companions. A warning hiss or a smack with a paw doesn't have quite the
>same effect it normally does when they mature. They get better at learning the
>signals the other cat gives to tell them it's not fun any more (usually).

I guess I have an unusual cat <sigh>  Our 7 y.o. STILL doesn't get it
when his sister hisses and swats at him (which is why he often has
cuts on his face).
Laura R. - 12 Mar 2004 01:17 GMT
circa 11 Mar 2004 21:34:07 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Yngver
(yngver@aol.comnospam) said,
>  I expect in a couple months your problem will
> be much less severe, since at eight or nine months he is not going to have as
> much of that kitten energy and will be less rambunctious.

Can you tell Oscar this? He'll be ten in a few months.

Laura
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IBen Getiner - 12 Mar 2004 09:52 GMT
> I've had a cat for some four years now.  Recently I introduced into our
> home a 6 month old kitten.
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>
> Kelly

Buy or make a cat tree. They have steps that a kitten can't possibly
climb. Or add a ledger-board to extend your window sill out a little
further. Catz love windows and a wider sill might provide you with
just what the doctor ordered.  That's my advice. Take it or leave it.

                               IBen Getiner
Mel - 12 Mar 2004 18:27 GMT
I had bought a cat tree off eBay a couple years ago --- it had 2
shelves and a top shelf on a 5 ft pole (pole was a 4x4 square). Well
it wasn't very well made and fatty Alfred broke the shelves on day one
but the carpeted pole and top were still intact. It became the
ultimate in king of the hill. whoever made it to the top could easily
repel any others by just slapping at them as they tried to climb up so
they ruled the top.

My one kitty Xena has an ongoing health problem (autoimmune hemolytic
anemia) and sometimes she just doesn't feel like playing and the boys
(there are 3 of them) can get a little too rough for her sometimes.
She would go to the top of that tree and no one could bother her
there.

So I suggest a tree or shelf on the wall with only 1 way up. You could
make an angled pole or shelf to get up to it if a straight up were too
difficult for your kitty. Mine would have a little more trouble
climbing it in the days right after having their claws trimmed.

Mel
ann ruminski - 12 Mar 2004 19:31 GMT
> I've had a cat for some four years now.  Recently I introduced into our
> home a 6 month old kitten.
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>
> Kelly

   This is exactly like Collette and Blaise. She is about 4 years old and
he is
  six months old and full of energy. He is learning very slowly that when
she
   is on the bookcase looking out the window or on "her chair", he cannot
win
   and she will fight very fiercely. He used to launch himself at her 5 or
6 times,
   give up for a while and then try again. Now he maybe tries just once or
twice.
   We tried distracting him with other toys (pretty successful, actually),
letting her
    go outside or making a Blaise-free zone (Collette is allowed in the
bedroom, but
    he is not or he is given a time-out in his room).

   Ann
kelly andgary - 12 Mar 2004 20:37 GMT
First of all I want to thank each and everyone of you here.  Reading
through your replies, I became more and more filled with the feeling
"Geez, what a nice bunch of people". Guess you probably wouldn't realize
this unless you were on this..."The receiving end".  Thank you all
sooo.very much.

With your feedback in mind....we've decided to nail Annie's favorite
chair to the laundry room wall (minus part of the chair's back and the
front legs...to start out with anyway) and at a height where the
youngster can't reach it with his extended paws.  We'll see if at least
some version of this works out...if not...we'll opt for the cat tree.

Again I thank you all.  If anyone ever tells me "cat people are the
best"....I will now just have to nod my head...knowingly.

Kelly
Karen - 12 Mar 2004 20:59 GMT
> First of all I want to thank each and everyone of you here.  Reading
> through your replies, I became more and more filled with the feeling
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>
> Kelly

Hey, that's kind of cool and arty at the same time!

Karen
Cheryl - 13 Mar 2004 03:02 GMT
"Karen" <kchuplis@alltel.net> dumped this in  news:c2t8ce$214057$1@ID-
221344.news.uni-berlin.de on 12 Mar 2004:

>> With your feedback in mind....we've decided to nail Annie's favorite
>> chair to the laundry room wall (minus part of the chair's back and the
>> front legs...to start out with anyway) and at a height where the
>> youngster can't reach it with his extended paws. We'll see if at least
>> some version of this works out...if not...we'll opt for the cat tree.

> Hey, that's kind of cool and arty at the same time!
>
> Karen

Yeah, it is. If Shadow could jump, I'd try something like that to keep
the meanies away from him.  ;)  Though Shamrock is a master jumper. I've
seen him jump 6' to a surface the size of a coffee saucer without
knocking anything over or off to the floor.  Once he gets up there it's
another story. He makes a game of knocking stuff to the floor.

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Cheryl

I am a very happy person. It's just that I have no patients for
stupidity.
- IBen Getiner

Mary - 13 Mar 2004 03:21 GMT
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> I am a very happy person. It's just that I have no patients for
> stupidity.
> - IBen Getiner

:')  Very nice.
Cheryl - 13 Mar 2004 04:01 GMT
"Mary" <rosefan@email.com> dumped this in  news:a7v4c.90828$eL2.4880045
@twister.southeast.rr.com on 12 Mar 2004:

> [snip to sig]
>
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>
>:')  Very nice.

lol
I couldn't resist.

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Cheryl

I am a very happy person. It's just that I have no patients for
stupidity.
- IBen Getiner

m. L. Briggs - 13 Mar 2004 06:08 GMT
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>:')  Very nice.

Sorry  he has no patients -- business must be bad or  he is not a very
good doctor.
BarB - 14 Mar 2004 00:37 GMT


>how can I make some linda place (a refuge) where the big cat can get
>away from the little cat when she's dead serious about not playing.

I've had good luck with the small, carpeted cubby holes Petco sells for
about $20. They are round, mini towers with room for only one cat, and
they can easily defend the space. I am using several in cages for strays
and it gives them security.

BarB

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