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---MIKE--- - 29 Oct 2005 23:40 GMT
Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Diane - 30 Oct 2005 00:09 GMT
> Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
> that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
> 5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
> explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

Speak slowly. :)
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Lumpy - 30 Oct 2005 02:19 GMT
> Speak slowly. :)

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Brandy  Alexandre - 30 Oct 2005 00:12 GMT
---MIKE--- <twinmountain@webtv.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up
> about that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what
> Amber thinks is 5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that
> early.  I will explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any
> good.

LOL!  Interesting problem.  

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.oO rach Oo. - 30 Oct 2005 00:24 GMT
Our cats are triggered by the alarm in the morning. Now that the time will
change, they likely will as well. In saying that, my husband and I believe
the older cat has an atomic clock built in her as she will start fussing if
the alarm doesn't go off (like on weekends) and will give us 10 minutes to
get moving. If we do not, she starts eating my hair, meowing, scratching the
window screen etc. We just set her outside the door until she starts pawing
at that and we just give up.

Is your cat triggered by your alarm? If so, that may make things easier. If
not, I think she will likely take the hint.

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.oO rach Oo.

Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Brandy  Alexandre - 30 Oct 2005 01:17 GMT
.oO rach Oo. <reachin@anewrefutationoftimeandspace.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Our cats are triggered by the alarm in the morning. Now that the
> time will change, they likely will as well. In saying that, my
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> Is your cat triggered by your alarm? If so, that may make things
> easier. If not, I think she will likely take the hint.

I finally got Kami to trigger only when the TV comes on (I have the TV
turn on rather than an alarm).  I know she sits there staring at me and
the second the TV clicks she's meowing.  Let's see what happens with
the time change.

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Snittens - 30 Oct 2005 01:49 GMT
Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.
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I got an automatic feeder a few years ago to solve this problem.  This takes
the association of being fed away from the humans and they learn that food
comes from the feeder.  It's worked for the most part, they don't bug me so
much in the morning.

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No More  Retail - 30 Oct 2005 06:16 GMT
water filled spray bottle works every time

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just kidding :-)  maybe
CountryStuff - 30 Oct 2005 11:14 GMT
Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

*rubs eyes*, I uhh feel your pain !!
Me awake at ...well I have not changed the clocks back but its 5:12, so
really it's 4:12...grrrrrrrr. ;)
me over in N.E.O.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
whitershadeofpale - 30 Oct 2005 14:24 GMT
DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
> explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

har har
bookbug2005 - 30 Oct 2005 20:12 GMT
I've recently learned that my cat, Charley, is psychic.  You see, I
just wasn't giving him the message the right way.  He was fond of
meowing, not only in the morning, but whenever it suited his fancy,
which could be anywhere from 1-3AM.  He thought that would be a great
time for me to get up and play.  I decided he needed some negative
reinforcement, so when he meowed in the middle of the night, I nailed
him with my feather pillow.  I did it two nights in a row and wondered
how long I'd have to give the lesson.  ON the 3rd night, as I lay down,
I kept up the mantra in my head. "Keep your mouth shut or I'm going to
get you with the pillow"  Charley hasn't meowed in the middle of the
night since.  So now I don't have to throw the pillow, I just have to
think about it.

Michelle  (Yes, I can hear the Twilight Zone music  ;-)
whitershadeofpale - 30 Oct 2005 23:08 GMT
> Michelle  (Yes, I can hear the Twilight Zone music  ;-)

maybe he is...

but maybe he is just smart and got the message

hope you didn't hit him with the pillow and it knock him against an old
door stop and he hit his head or something
whitershadeofpale - 30 Oct 2005 23:14 GMT
just kidding! :)
bookbug2005 - 31 Oct 2005 03:02 GMT
Actually, Charley is very smart--sometimes too smart for his own
good--so maybe he got the message with only two feather pillow
treatments.  But I like the psychic version better.  ;-)

And no, I'd never do anything to actually cause Charley pain--just
surprise him a bit.

Michelle
Paul M. Cook - 31 Oct 2005 00:09 GMT
Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

Would a wrist watch help?

Paul
5cats - 31 Oct 2005 01:46 GMT
> Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
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>
> Paul

This seems to be a lost cause. They are all gathered around asking for
dinner (over an hour early by MY clock.) Even the shy one has swatted me
on the knee, that's how convinced he is that I'm late.

Sigh.
Diane - 31 Oct 2005 01:49 GMT
> > Would a wrist watch help?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sigh.

Apparently you didn't get all your clocks set, then. :)
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DevilsPGD - 31 Oct 2005 00:32 GMT
>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
>usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
>that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
>5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
>explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

You just have to find the timezone settings.  Difficult with long haired
cats, but with the short hair models you can usually find the controls.

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Phil P. - 31 Oct 2005 04:35 GMT
>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up about
that time.  Tomorrow (and for the next six months) what Amber thinks is
5 will actually be 4.  I DON'T want to get up that early.  I will
>explain this to her but I doubt if it will do any good.

Since she's living indoors under artificial light, she should adjust to your
new schedule in a week or two.

Cats are crepuscular (actually matutinal and vespertine) so they usually
adjust their routine to the change of seasons- shorter/longer days- not the
actual time.  But living indoors under artificial light throws off their
biological clocks.  Its kinda similar to cycling intact females that live
outdoors- they only cycle in season whereas indoor intact females can cycle
all year round- its the light- not the time.

Phil
5cats - 31 Oct 2005 15:02 GMT
>>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up
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>
> Phil

Even indoors, mine are up with the sunrise. Actually, more like at the
first light of day even. I had a few 4:30 wake-up pounces this summer.
Now, with the gloomy late fall mornings they let me sleep in late some
mornings.
Phil P. - 31 Oct 2005 15:33 GMT
> >>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> > usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Even indoors, mine are up with the sunrise. Actually, more like at the
> first light of day even.

In any season, right?  Even though the time of the sunrises change.  My two
former ferals do the same, but my indoor-raised cats don't seem to come to
life until someone goes into the kitchen- not the bathroom- not the living
room- only the kitchen.  They never learned to read the sun. ;-)

I had a few 4:30 wake-up pounces this summer.
> Now, with the gloomy late fall mornings they let me sleep in late some
> mornings.

Doncha just love some of the wild instincts they retained? ;-)

Phil
5cats - 31 Oct 2005 16:27 GMT
>> >>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
>> > usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up
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> not the living room- only the kitchen.  They never learned to read the
> sun. ;-)

It's more evident during the summer, as both the living room and my
bedroom will get full morning light before I wake up. The last few weeks
before the end of DST I had the room lights on before it was light
outside and that will be the case again in mid-winter.

> I had a few 4:30 wake-up pounces this summer.
>> Now, with the gloomy late fall mornings they let me sleep in late
>> some mornings.
>
> Doncha just love some of the wild instincts they retained? ;-)

I could do without 4:30 wakeup pounces, but overall, I find their
behaviors and interactions very fascinating. Especially in Max who seems
just a little closer to his wild ancestors than the others.

I know George was born and raised indoors, 3 of the others I got as older
kittens or young adults but they must have been outside cats judging by
their well-developed hunting skills.  

 
Phil P. - 31 Oct 2005 19:03 GMT
> >> >>Tonight we set the clocks back one hour.  My problem is that Amber
> >> > usually wakes me up about 5AM.  That's OK because I usually get up
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> behaviors and interactions very fascinating. Especially in Max who seems
> just a little closer to his wild ancestors than the others.

I love watching cats- especially ferals. I love the repertoire of facial
expressions and body postures they use to communicate with each other. Every
colony seems to have their own culture and little community- even the cats
in the shelter.  I can spend the whole day watching them- sometimes I do!
Utterly fascinating- even after >45 years.

> I know George was born and raised indoors, 3 of the others I got as older
> kittens or young adults but they must have been outside cats judging by
> their well-developed hunting skills.

If their mother was a good teacher, they can kill prey by the time they're
5-7 weeks old. Their hunting skills are definitely related to what their
mother taught them.

I love all my cats dearly- but my 2 former ferals are definitely smarter
than my indoor-raised cats.  I often hide their food and let them 'hunt' for
it.  The former ferals always find and get the food first.  Sometimes I put
the food in difficult places and I can actually see them figuring out how to
get to it.  Fascinating to watch.
cybercat - 31 Oct 2005 18:15 GMT
> > > Cats are crepuscular [..]
> >
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>
> Phil

Both of my cats, former ferals, are crazy wild at dusk and
dawn. I love to see them that way, and allow extra time so that I
can get up when they do, play, and go back to bed to get enough
sleep. My little 7-lb tabby girl is wildest of all, maybe because she
is younger. After we play with the feather on a string that bored
her at midnight but thrills her at dawn I open the bedroom window
and she blisses out on the birds beginning to sing. If I am too tired
and try to roll over and go back to sleep she blows me off and
gathers the comforter in to a ball and kicks it to death, hunkers
down and pounces on nothing, misjudging the edge of the bed and
going sailing into the pile of giftboxes on the big chair, then plays
kangaroo kitty on the top of my pillow until I have to wake up
and play with her. It's my favorite time of day, catwise. :)
Phil P. - 31 Oct 2005 19:05 GMT
> > > > Cats are crepuscular [..]
> > >
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> Both of my cats, former ferals, are crazy wild at dusk and
> dawn. I love to see them that way,

Oh yeah!  I love to see their wild side.

and allow extra time so that I
> can get up when they do, play, and go back to bed to get enough
> sleep. My little 7-lb tabby girl is wildest of all, maybe because she
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> kangaroo kitty on the top of my pillow until I have to wake up
> and play with her. It's my favorite time of day, catwise. :)

Here's the perfect toy- better than a laser pointer because the cats can
actually catch it.  They look so proud when they finally catch it!

http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/catfisher-w-suggie.jpg

I can lie in bed and cast the lure down the hallway (it has a 40' range) and
reel it back- and jerk it away just as they're ready to pounce on it.  I
don't know how many meetings I've been late for or missed because I was
having so much fun fishing for cats!
cybercat - 31 Oct 2005 19:43 GMT
> Here's the perfect toy- better than a laser pointer because the cats can
> actually catch it.  They look so proud when they finally catch it!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know how many meetings I've been late for or missed because I was
> having so much fun fishing for cats!

Aughghghghhhh!! Where can I get one??!!
Phil P. - 01 Nov 2005 10:19 GMT
> > Here's the perfect toy- better than a laser pointer because the cats can
> > actually catch it.  They look so proud when they finally catch it!
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>
> Aughghghghhhh!! Where can I get one??!!

Petco- $25- worth every penny. You can buy it online from

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp143265_333181_sespider/bamboo_play_catfisher/cat_toy
_fishing_rod_and_real.htm


for $19 with free shipping.

Enjoy!
John Doe - 01 Nov 2005 11:10 GMT
Be advised that drugstore.com will spam you.
Phil P. - 01 Nov 2005 18:39 GMT
> Be advised that drugstore.com will spam you.

Not as much as you do with your all your "troll" posts that *includes* the
spam you're complaining about.
cybercat - 01 Nov 2005 17:20 GMT
> > > Here's the perfect toy- better than a laser pointer because the cats can
> > > actually catch it.  They look so proud when they finally catch it!

http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/catfisher-w-suggie.jpg

> > > I can lie in bed and cast the lure down the hallway (it has a 40' range)
> > and
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>
> Petco- $25- worth every penny. You can buy it online from

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp143265_333181_sespider/bamboo_play_catfisher/cat_toy
_fishing_rod_and_real.htm


> for $19 with free shipping.

Yay! I will order several, one for me and some for Christmas gifts. Thanks!
Phil P. - 01 Nov 2005 18:38 GMT
> > > > Here's the perfect toy- better than a laser pointer because the cats
> can
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >
> > Petco- $25- worth every penny. You can buy it online from

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp143265_333181_sespider/bamboo_play_catfisher/cat_toy
_fishing_rod_and_real.htm


> > for $19 with free shipping.
>
> Yay! I will order several, one for me and some for Christmas gifts. Thanks!

There's gonna be some happy cats in town.
Brandy  Alexandre - 31 Oct 2005 20:01 GMT
cybercat <boagrrl@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> > > Cats are crepuscular [..]
>> >
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> wake up and play with her. It's my favorite time of day, catwise.
> :)

Ah, memories.  Sometimes I'm glad Kami's old.  The jongle ball
banging and clattering all over the house through the night is not
quite that missed, but watching her when I'm actually awake was
good, cheap entertainment.

You should get a peacock feather.  Those made her just insane.

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