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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2005Cloudy Eye in one eyed Cat
I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. Besides most vets don't do any better than I do after I've researched the issue. I have a cat who I adopted as a stray who is getting along in years. It had a serious infection when I first got it on the side of the head and we treated it and it survived with antibiotics. However it lost that eye, which is still there, but blind. The other eye is starting to get cloudy-like a dull milky film. What meds can I order from a vet supply store to treat this eye so as to extend it's life? I hate to see this cat go totally blind and then I will have to put it to sleep I guess or let it suffer. He can still see, but probably his vision in the remaining eye is not too good. I'd say it is around 10% or more opaque. He still seems to get around ok. Please respond to the question only, I will ignore idiots who start moralizing me about taking the cat to the vet. Vets are outrageous nowadays and many are incompetent, just as regular doctors here in the USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by seeing you. Not all, but many. Also, would it hurt to use some cat antibiotic eye drops in that eye, given previously for infection in other eye? whezrsfriend <whezrsfriend@poorhouse.org> wrote in news:djrqi4$kck$1 @sadr.dfn.de: > I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by seeing > you. Not all, but many. How old is the cat > Also, would it hurt to use some cat antibiotic eye drops in that eye, > given previously for infection in other eye? [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by seeing >> you. Not all, but many. this site suggests infection or cataracts: http://netscape.petplace.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=414 this site has information including advice about blind cats: http://www.vetinfo.com/cateye.html bear in mind that a blind cat is not necessarily suffering many blind pets carry on just fine, they know their own environment and can cope quite well, just as blind people do! > I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by seeing > you. Not all, but many. one intelligent reply out of three, thanks, guess there's hope for these animal groups yet. > this site suggests infection or cataracts: > http://netscape.petplace.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=414 [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> the USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by >> seeing you. Not all, but many. Though I'm afraid I must also suggest a vet, I had an older cat that went blind who managed well. They seem to be able to function quite well from memory or smell or ... > one intelligent reply out of three, thanks, guess there's hope for these > animal groups yet. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> the USA. And then they act like they are doing you a big favor by >>> seeing you. Not all, but many. > I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. Please consider NOT taking in animals that you cannot care for. It isn't fair to them. Your cat needs to see the vet, whether or not you can afford it. Vets are not that expensive--many of us here take our cats in regularly and know this. Still didn't answer how old in the cat the reason I ask that is at a certain age you can expect cataracts, eye infections come easier, glaucoma, hypopyon, anterior uveitis, retinal hemorrhage, retinal detachment since you are not going to vet unless absolutly necessary try this home pet examination http://netscape.petplace.com/Articles/artShow.asp?artID=2690&q=cloudy+eye information can be found on this site about above problems the medications taht was used before for the other infection may not even be necessary. take a look at the information we might be able to help BUT UNDERSTAND NONE OF HERE ARE VETS > Still didn't answer how old in the cat > the reason I ask that is at a certain age you can expect > cataracts, eye infections come easier, glaucoma, hypopyon, > anterior uveitis, retinal hemorrhage, retinal detachment Thanks for the link. I didn't answer because I have no idea how old he is. He is arthritic, hard of hearing and sleeps alot. I give him lots of affection and good food. He loves me and will allow me to touch him anywhere, even though when I first adopted him from a dead neighbor (b4 he was a stray), he was frightened of all people and would not allow anyone near him. He almost died from the infection and I have taken him to the vet b4, but the vets here are real a*hole s in contrast to vets I know as a child who were wonderful. Plus they are outrageous in their fees-totally outrageous imo. The ones I've seen here have little or no concern for animals, it is only business to them. It is probably a cataract or glaucoma, does not look like it is infected. Just would like to delay or prevent his going blind in second eye. I am smart, I will research it thoroughly and order from a vet supply firm. > since you are not going to vet unless absolutly necessary try > this home pet examination [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > not even be necessary. take a look at the information we might > be able to help BUT UNDERSTAND NONE OF HERE ARE VETS <snip> > The other eye is starting to get cloudy-like a dull milky film. What > meds can I order from a vet supply store to treat this eye so as to > extend it's life? I hate to see this cat go totally blind and then I > will have to put it to sleep I guess or let it suffer. <snip> No, No, No! I'm not responding to your question, but I do want to emphasize the point that a cat *does not* need to be "put to sleep" merely because it is blind, and your cat does not need to suffer. I speak from experience. Duffy is totally blind, and he is a dear, sweet, good-natured cat -- and also a remarkably happy and active cat. He is a little gymnast who loves to climb, so he gets a great deal of exercise by using his "vertical space" instead of running wildly through the house on a horizontal level. On the other hand, he moves around the house so easily that I have had visitors who watched him for 15 or 20 minutes before they realized he is blind. So, *please* do not even consider euthanasia as an "option" even if your cat loses sight in his other eye. If you look at the albums below my signature, you can see Duffy at play. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") > <snip> >> The other eye is starting to get cloudy-like a dull milky film. What [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") We had a cat that got cataracts as he got older. He was blind several years and got around fine. I could even get him to "play" with a pencil or stick by tickling his whiskers. He totally will adjust if he goes blind. We just didn't move the furniture much. We have a blind cat at the shelter; he stays in the play area of the staff building. The kids love Charley to death they find it " cool " that he can be blind and still play like a kitten. He knows when I walk in the door and he comes a meowing; he knows I carry treats in my pockets for my four legged children. When my wife comes in she better have her hands free or Charley will trip her up into she picks him up. YES WE SPOIL THE CHILDREN >The other eye is starting to get >cloudy-like a dull milky film. What meds >can I order from a vet supply store to treat >this eye so as to extend it's life? You really need to get this cat to a vet ASAP. It may mean the difference between him retaining his vision or going blind (and just because a cat goes blind doesn't mean he is suffering and must be killed). The thing is, unless you know the exact cause of the eye issue, there is no way to know how to treat it. All eye problems are not equal and there is not a one-size-fits-all cure. Even more problematic is the fact that there are many eye medications that can make the eye worse if you are using the wrong one. And finally, anything that may be effective as a treatment will most likely require a prescription from the vet. Please borrow the money and get your cat to the vet so you can get the right treatment for him and hopefully save his remaining good eye. It's the right thing to do and if you try hard enough I believe you'll find a way. Megan  Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray Ok, you will loan me the money right? I figure it will be around $150. Send me your phone number so we can make arrangements for you to email me the money order. >>The other eye is starting to get >>cloudy-like a dull milky film. What meds [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > - W.H. Murray > >Ok, you will loan me the money right? I have 25 cats to care for on a one person salary and sorry, but most of my money pays for their care, including **whatever vet care is necessary at the time it is necessary,** regardless of whether it's convenient for me or not. If I'm broke there's always a credit card or I'll find extra work. If I had to pawn or sell something I would do that too. I don't spend my time whining about being broke. Instead I use that time in a constructive fashion to make sure I get whatever finances are needed. The bottom line here is you have taken responsibility for another living being that is unable to help themselves, therefore it is on you to do what's right and get your cat the help he needs. >I figure it will be around $150. An office call and medication should not cost $150. Probably half that. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > >Ok, you will loan me the money right? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > me or not. If I'm broke there's always a credit card or I'll find extra > work. If I had to pawn or sell something I would do that too. Ebay! >>Ok, you will loan me the money right? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > constructive fashion to make sure I get whatever finances are > needed. And to tell other people how to spend their money and when to borrow. As I predicted in my OP there would be one moron who cannot read and ignore my caveat that I cannot take it to the vet and still tell me to do so. You win the award. Your like the liberals who go around telling others whom they should support with their tax money. Most of the people I know who have 25 cats also have a loose screw, you are no exception. I have no responsiblity to this cat who was a stray.It would have been dead a long time ago if not for me. I you want to spend your finances on cats, go ahead, just don't go around telling others they have to follow your edicts. I really think if you have the money you have a responsiblity as a cat lover to loan me the money.I'm waiting for your phone number, or you can just give me your address and I come on over. > The bottom line here is you have taken responsibility for > another living being that is unable to help themselves, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > - W.H. Murray > > >>Ok, you will loan me the money right? Well tell us about the eye, I figure he can still see out of it. is it a pussy glaze or is it an opaque lens do you know what happened to the other eye? Is the same thing happening? Is there a ball in the other socket? . I have no responsiblity to this cat who was a stray.It > would have been dead a long time ago if not for me. An altruistic sociopath. There's one for the books. You could probably make enough money to get your cat treated by becoming a research subject in a psychiatric institution. >I have no responsiblity to this cat who >was a stray. The minute you take the cat in you absolutely do have a responsibility for him. >It would have been dead a long time ago >if not for me. That doesn't justify your current cruel treatment and neglect of this poor animal, and now it is suffering and becoming blind because of you. If you care so little for the welfare of this animal, find it a good home with someone that is willing to care for it properly. >I you want to spend your finances on >cats, go ahead, just don't go around telling >others they have to follow your edicts. When you post to usenet, you open the door for opinions and comments. If you don't like the answers you receive then maybe you should stop asking questions. >I really think if you have the money you >have a responsiblity as a cat lover to loan >me the money.I'm waiting for your phone >number, or you can just give me your >address and I come on over. Sorry, but I have nothing to give you as I just spent a chunk of money on a stray that was neglected and unspayed: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8507601&uid=476350 She's now back to good health and I found her a really wonderful home with a family that is very responsible and doesn't hesitate to take their animals to the vet immediately when something is wrong. It's a travesty that your cat is not so blessed. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8507601&uid=476350 Wow, she is really beautiful. What a face. >>I have no responsiblity to this cat who >>was a stray. > > The minute you take the cat in you absolutely do have a > responsibility for him. Bull. Many of the people in this group need to be on medication as they cannot think straight. >>It would have been dead a long time ago >>if not for me. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > animal, find it a good home with someone that is willing to care > for it properly. I already shot it. So it is not suffering any more. Sleep on that little miss muffet. >>I you want to spend your finances on >>cats, go ahead, just don't go around telling [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > comments. If you don't like the answers you receive then maybe > you should stop asking questions. My original posts said: "no morons", but not only are you stupid, you can't read either. >>I really think if you have the money you >>have a responsiblity as a cat lover to loan [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8507601&uid=47 > 6350 well, borrow it from someone. don't you feel any responsibility to cats everywhere? > She's now back to good health and I found her a really wonderful > home with a family that is very responsible and doesn't hesitate > to take their animals to the vet immediately when something is > wrong. It's a travesty that your cat is not so blessed. Yep a travesty alright. Did you have to look that up? > Megan > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > - W.H. Murray > ...> I really think if you have the money you have a responsiblity as a > cat lover to loan me the money.I'm waiting for your phone number, or > you can just give me your address and I come on over. ...>> Megan whezrsfriend, I know that you have said that you will not spend the money to take the cat to the vet. I'm not sure if that means that you can't afford to spend anything, or just are not willing to seek help by whatever means, or you are so certain that all vets are nothing but greedy and incompetent and don't want to take a chance that you might find one who would prove you wrong. Let's put aside all other concerns and focus on what will help the cat because the cat need help and cannot help itself. Here are some things you can do: You can call local rescue groups and ask for recommendations of what to do with this cat. There may be someone on this group who lives near you or has knowledge of a vet near you who is competent. Are you willing to put aside for a moment your conviction that all vets are greedy and incompetent and state the general area where you are in order to let them help you locate a suitable vet? If a suitable vet is found, are you willing to call the vet with a description of the cat's problem and ask for an estimate of the cost of treatment? Will you post here how much you are willing to pay to help this cat who cannot help itself? Will you provide to this group the vet's estimate of the treatment and how the vet may be located so that anyone interested could donate the money directly to the vet for that cat's situation. I doubt that anyone would consider giving you personal loan, considering your hostile attitude and disrespect, but there are people here who care about the cat and might help, in spite of your belief that we are all "morons" or other name calling on your part. But in the end it is up to you to do your part. And, yes, you may not have asked for it, but without you taking on your responsibility, nobody here can help the cat. As for Megan, you will not find anyone who has done more for the cats in her care and the cats she has rescued and placed in loving homes. Best wishes for helping this cat. Annie > ...> I really think if you have the money you have a > responsiblity as a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > nothing but greedy and incompetent and don't want to take a > chance that you might find one who would prove you wrong. OP said "no vet" what part of that is difficult to understand? > Let's put aside all other concerns and focus on what will help > the cat because the cat need help and cannot help itself. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You can call local rescue groups and ask for recommendations of > what to do with this cat. already did: "sorry, we cannot recommend invididual vets" > There may be someone on this group who lives near you or has > knowledge of a vet near you who is competent. Are you willing to > put aside for a moment your conviction that all vets are greedy > and incompetent and state the general area where you are in > order to let them help you locate a suitable vet? I spoke to many about this with a dog I had. I came to the conclusion that they are all pretty bad-very expensive and uncaring from the people I talked to. I live in a City that is substandard. It is difficult to find ethical and competent professionals in ANY profession. I have not been to the doctor in some time because the doctors here stink compared to where I grew up. You obviously did not read all my posts. I would never say they are ALL incompetent and unethical, but I have been to two and both were. One didn't know as much as I did about proper treatment after I read several vet school articles on the subject and both insisted on full payment on the spot at outrageous rates. Obviously the vet schools, like so many other prof. schools are making little effort to sort out people who are looking to make money from people who care about what they are doing. This is symptomatic of the present state of our Kountry, where incompetence is more the rule than the exception and where people are successful regardless of their ethical/moral standards-just look at our atheletes. > If a suitable vet is found, are you willing to call the vet with > a description of the cat's problem and ask for an estimate of > the cost of treatment? Obviously you haven't called many vets around here because they don't give estimates over the phone. They expect you to pay a consult fee just to give an estimate. They are greedy, mercenary a*sho*les. I almost file licensing complaints against the two I mentioned above. > Will you post here how much you are willing to pay to help this > cat who cannot help itself? The point is mute, the cat's eye is not a bad as I first thought, so he is doing ok for now. > Will you provide to this group the vet's estimate of the > treatment and how the vet may be located so that anyone > interested could donate the money directly to the vet for that > cat's situation. see above. > I doubt that anyone would consider giving you personal loan, > considering > your hostile attitude and disrespect, but there are people here > who care about the cat and might help, in spite of your belief > that we are all "morons" or other name calling on your part. Well, if people wouldn't act like morons, I wouldn't stoop to their level. > But in the end it is up to you to do your part. And, yes, you > may not have asked for it, but without you taking on your > responsibility, nobody here can help the cat. Some already have by giving RELEVANT helpful answers to my OP instead of inane, sanctimonious incriminations. > As for Megan, you will not find anyone who has done more for the > cats in her care and the cats she has rescued and placed in > loving homes. Yeah she's willing to spend OTHER people's money to satisfy her moral edicts, but not her own. > Best wishes for helping this cat. thanks, I think. > Annie > Ok, you will loan me the money right? I figure it will be around > $150. Send me your phone number so we can make arrangements for > you to email me the money order. Have you even tried making arrangements with your vet to pay in installments? Have you asked loved ones or friends for loans? When it comes down to the cat might go blind without immediate vet care it is time to put pride aside. I would also like to comment that coming into the discussion hostile because you do not or will not find the resources to take care of this cat is really bad form. Anyone who cares about these creatures would get upset at the notion of a cloudy eye going untreated, and you are being unfair to DEMAND that we don't. > > I would also like to comment that coming into the discussion hostile > because you do not or will not find the resources to take care of this > cat is really bad form. Anyone who cares about these creatures would > get upset at the notion of a cloudy eye going untreated, and you are being > unfair to DEMAND that we don't. I quite agree. I would say most of us have been up against financial hardship, and having to find a way for our pet to see a vet. You do what you have to to be a responsible person. OP, I do hope you will make some financial arrangements and get the cat some professional help. >> > I would also like to comment that coming into the discussion hostile >> because you do not or will not find the resources to take care of this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > what you have to to be a responsible person. OP, I do hope you will > make some financial arrangements and get the cat some professional help. Exactly. When I was a graduate student (*many* years ago), my cat needed surgery and I was barely "scraping by" on a graduate assistant's pay. I made arrangements to pay for the surgery in installments. It took a year-and-a-half to finish payments, but it was well worth it. Moreover, I used to joke that my cat had a healthier diet during that time than I did -- and despite the joking, it was actually true. However, he needed it for recuperation, and I was healthy. That cat was the love of my life (just as my two furbabies are now), and he lived to be almost 20 years old. As a couple of other people have said, we do what we have to do. MaryL > Exactly. When I was a graduate student (*many* years ago), my cat needed > surgery and I was barely "scraping by" on a graduate assistant's pay. I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > MaryL When we wuz kids growing up, if one of our dogs got the mange, we put him down. If the dogs had been the love of our lives, then sure, I reckon we would have viewed the whole thing differently. There are many people who would have done the same as you, there are many people who would say it is not affordable; and put the cat down. I know you are not saying this; but IMO; I think as adults we should accept the idea that not everyone feels the same, and to me this is ok. A cat being put to sleep is in fact painless to the cat. I do put a higher value on the quality of human life than animals. Just sharing my 2 cents. > I know you are not saying this; but IMO; I think as adults we should > accept the idea that not everyone feels the same, and to me this is ok. > A cat being put to sleep is in fact painless to the cat. I do put a > higher value on the quality of human life than animals. > > Just sharing my 2 cents. ooops! Say!, I'm not saying this to mean anything about what you did. as in.. You don't put value on human life...didn't mean it to sound this way :) but of course you do! oddly enough? I always put food as the last item to Have to buy... which is probably why I am loosing weight profusely Roman noodles 7 cents each instant rice .12 100 different way to make them both > Roman noodles 7 cents each instant rice .12 100 different way to make > them both I think you mean "ramen." But yeah. :) We do what we need to do to take care of those who depend on us. Particularly if they have no opposable thumbs and we keep them captive, right? >> Ok, you will loan me the money right? I figure it will be >> around $150. Send me your phone number so we can make [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > going untreated, and you are being unfair to DEMAND that we > don't. You are a sanctimonious fuckwit, not worth another keystroke. So, are you going to loan/give me the money or not? What? You don't care about cats, u fuckwit you. Full of hot air, with no committment. Can talk the talk; cannot walk the walk. This poor cat has been rubbing it's eye, it's obviously in discomfort. So are you going to help or not, you fuckwit you. Guess I'll have to put it to sleep. Maybe I'll shoot it, quick and painless. > You are a sanctimonious fuckwit, not worth another keystroke. So, are > you going to loan/give me the money or not? What? You don't care [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > help or not, you fuckwit you. Guess I'll have to put it to sleep. > Maybe I'll shoot it, quick and painless. oh calm your a.s down! you've spent more time replying to the money matter than talking about the eye. It's no wonder you have not got any decent ideas about the problem. Who cares if you have money or not, you're going to do what you want and what you can afford. If you THOUGHT anyone on here might spare a dime...after that little jagged post? hehehe Now you are ready to shoot the cat? Yeah, just post you're address and sit back and wait for the dollars to roll in. Everyone loves to give money to a cat shooter. Why are you letting a few, spoil the matter! > You are a sanctimonious fuckwit, not worth another keystroke. So, are > you going to loan/give me the money or not? What? You don't care [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > help or not, you fuckwit you. Guess I'll have to put it to sleep. > Maybe I'll shoot it, quick and painless. Frankly, I think you're full of it and are just trying to take advantage of people, and most likely you don't even have a cat. But, if I'm wrong, and I highly doubt it, try going here for some help http://www.pet911.org/index.php that is a good link I am adding it to my collection >> You are a sanctimonious fuckwit, not worth another keystroke. >> So, are you going to loan/give me the money or not? What? You [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > But, if I'm wrong, and I highly doubt it, try going here for > some help http://www.pet911.org/index.php Frankly, I think your trying to waste my time with a meaningless link-follow the yellow brick road. But if I'm wrong, thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: whezrsfriend <whezrsfriend@nospam.org> >Ok, you will loan me the money right? I figure it will be around >$150. Send me your phone number so we can make arrangements for >you to email me the money order. If you can't scrounge up $150 then your life must REALLY SUCK. You should seriously consider finding the cat a good home and then having yourself euthanized. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > SUCK. You should seriously consider finding the cat a > good home and then having yourself euthanized. Now, Nomen, if you keep stifling yourself like that you're gonna blow up one day. Tell us how you *really* feel. :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "cybercat" <boagrrl@hotmail.com> >> If you can't scrounge up $150 then your life must REALLY >> SUCK. You should seriously consider finding the cat a >> good home and then having yourself euthanized. > >Now, Nomen, if you keep stifling yourself like that you're gonna >blow up one day. Tell us how you *really* feel. :) No.......I think I'll stick with the "toned down" version. Folks here might find my "real" feelings just a little too scary. :) Do like we do Nomen make fun of the trolls > my "real" feelings just a little too scary. :) I think you're doing fine! your admission is half the battle. Now, we can provoke it out of you, or you can volunteer them real feelings...tell it all tell it all aaaaand it's good to know you got feelings > I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. ...but you can afford a computer and ISP service. You need to reevaluate your priorities. > Besides most vets don't do any better than I do after I've researched > the issue. Bullshit. If you're asking questions in a newsgroup about what you should do, you're obviously clueless. You can't treat eye problems in cats yourself because you don't know the cause. The wrong treatment will make the problem worse. You don't know which medication the cat needs because you can't diagnose the problem. If you're too cheap and ignorant to take the cat to a vet- rehome the cat. You're far too cheap and ignorant to be entrusted with a cat's life. Btw, blind cats live near normal lives- with the right caretaker- which ain't you. So don't have the killed because you're a, ignorant, cheap moron. >> I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take >> it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. > >...but you can afford a computer and ISP service. You need to reevaluate >your priorities. That is not necessarily true: many people without computers have Internet access through schools and libraries, or through work, and various free e-mail addresses. There is even a clue in the message header: the orginization is given as DFN-Verein - DFN is a the German research net - clearly academic related. As a matter of fact, I posted this message from a computer I don't own via an ISP I don't have to pay. SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. > >> I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > >> it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > posted this message from a computer I don't own via an ISP I don't > have to pay. You missed the spirit of my post. The creep sounds like he's just too cheap to take the cat to the vet- not that he can't afford it. > You missed the spirit of my post. do whaaa? bwooo hahahaha > > You missed the spirit of my post. > > do whaaa? bwooo hahahaha Mindless idiot. If you were smarter, I'd think you're a troll, but you're far too stupid. > > I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will post "take > > it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford to do that. > > ...but you can afford a computer and ISP service. You need to reevaluate > your priorities. Another good point. There is ALWAYS a way to find care for those who depend upon us. Phil is everything ok ? You seem to be on the attack lately all these the posters are not all Brandy types :-o > Phil is everything ok ? > You seem to be on the attack lately It only seems that way because more a.sholes than usual have been surfacing lately. I just wanted to make sure Phil you are usually one of the best responders out here it just seemed more anger on your side coming out And I do got a question for you my epiliptic cat Rumble takes 2 2.5mg of diazepam a day every so often he gets 10cc cortizone shots when he starts to like his hair off. The question is is there any natural product that promotes hair growth in the cats or helps promote a fuller coat. Thanks >> Phil is everything ok ? >> You seem to be on the attack lately > > It only seems that way because more a.sholes than usual have > been surfacing lately. And the amazing thing is that ur able to talk out of yours. > >> Phil is everything ok ? > >> You seem to be on the attack lately [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > And the amazing thing is that ur able to talk out of yours. Even my a.shole makes more sense than you. what the hell is this? You think this group is a punching bag uh? or a stepping stone for your deflated ego? just lambash someone and WALAH! Phil feels better about himself. Cats out the bag buddy, people LOVE the experience you bring to the table. like..."Btw, blind cats live near normal lives- with the right caretaker-" as for the rest of the post...drip drip drip, lawd! However. This group has been known to make posts that have nothing to do with cats, and if need be, you can tell us all about it. What's wrong, just tell it! You are hemmed up or something, and you are venting on well meaning people here, AAAALLLL under the guise of your "Love for Cats"... Now there is some rich bullshit! Gimmie a break. Cat is out now yo > If you're too cheap and ignorant to take the cat to a vet- rehome the cat. > You're far too cheap and ignorant to be entrusted with a cat's life. > > Btw, blind cats live near normal lives- with the right caretaker- which > ain't you. So don't have the killed because you're a, ignorant, cheap moron. > You think this group is a punching bag uh? No, but you're acting like you desperately want to become one! You can call it the "Babbling Barry Village Idiot Punching Bag". >you are venting on well meaning people here, You consider "whezrsfriend" well meaning? You truly are an idiot. oh and uh.. lol > > You think this group is a punching bag uh? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You consider "whezrsfriend" well meaning? You truly are an idiot. go f.ck youself > > You think this group is a punching bag uh? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You consider "whezrsfriend" well meaning? You truly are an idiot. > go f.ck youself Gotcha! ROTFL! > > > You think this group is a punching bag uh? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > You consider "whezrsfriend" well meaning? You truly are an idiot. A troll who thinks his every utterance is hilarious > Path: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:36:23 -0500 [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Gotcha! ROTFL! > what the hell is this? > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Cat is out now yo Anyone of reasonable intelligence who has been on this group for longer than a week soon discovers that Phil cares about the well-being of felines and is very knowledgable on many issues about them. I've been hanging out in here for years. Phil and I butted heads briefly at the outset over nutrition issues; however, it was an education for me. ...don't get a swelled head Phil! :) Yes, I agree, it seems that Phil is a blessing to this group. aaand, I've said my mind, I too appreciate the knowledge and experience that Phil freely offers. Phil has chosen to learn the things he has, same as someone else might know about people medsin, or horse medsin, and so on. Or a car mechanic, or a computer specialist. Having knowledge AND experience is great, for a specific practicing; but It is not directly related to our people skills; and/or our personal opinions. For the record, is Phil a Vet? > > what the hell is this? > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > ...don't get a swelled head Phil! :) > Yes, I agree, it seems that Phil is a blessing to this group. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > For the record, is Phil a Vet? mhmmm, waaah hahaha ha! thought not! just a dude with no life other than his claim to helping cats. I've never met a cat he allegedly helped.. has anyone here? mmmhmmm thought not. All that above bullcrap was just a nice way of saying f.ck that rude a.s punk that nasty little cat infested, smart mouthed arsehole Ahhh what's wrong Phil, couldn't get your degree to be vet? So now your disposed to set on a dim a.s computer, hurling bitter insults to good well meaning people. ANYMUTHERFUCKING THING GOES As long as you mention something, some trivial a.s point about a cat? BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT! Your a bitter a.shole! But a goodone, you'd make a fine a.shole sir, you should be able to make a living at it. You ain't never helped me, and as far as I can see, don't nobody give a good ghotdamn what the f.ck you call a cat tooth! who the f.ck cares! NOT ME Phil don't know sh.t, he's a got a damn cat book, he quotes from. Knowing something about the subject, makes him somebody in his own esteem, however, don't nobody give a rats a.s what you have to contribute, I sho the f.ck don't, I have never seen one useful bit of practical info that you have contributed DICK WEED! Other than an occasional laugh Now, having said this...on the other hand. Cheryl has contributed WAY more useful info than you have. The crap you post, I can read that for my damnself. So there dingaling, roll that up and lick it yourself. Yeah, plenty of people contribute, you're just always first in line for a pissing match, but the sh.t that comes out of your mouth ain't worth the bandwidth it takes to post it. Unplug your computer, and shut the f.ck up, you inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "whitershadeofpale" <bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> >ha! thought not! just a dude with no life other than his claim to >helping cats. I've never met a cat he allegedly helped.. > >has anyone here? Yea, I have! The cat's name is "TK". > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yea, I have! > The cat's name is "TK". I have too--my two cats--who must remain unnamed as I am being stalked by freaks. :) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yea, I have! > The cat's name is "TK". How's he doing? Did he have another echo, yet? I'm really curious to know if the diltiazem reduced his myocardial hypertrophy. Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be glad to send them to you if you'd like. Did you know Dr. Rush is also a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Emergency & Critical Care (ACVECC) as well as a Diplomate of the ACVIM-Cardiology? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Phil P." <phil@maxshouse.com> >> Yea, I have! >> The cat's name is "TK". > >How's he doing? Well, he's a little pissed off, tonight. We cleaned the carpets today and TK is stuck in the basement until they dry. >Did he have another echo, yet? I'm really curious to know >if the diltiazem reduced his myocardial hypertrophy. Actually, I'm making the appointment this week. >Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial >thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be >glad to send them to you if you'd like. Not sure how much I'd understand, but yes, I would like to read them. Thanks. Do you still have my working E-mail address? >Did you know Dr. Rush is also a Diplomate of the American College of >Veterinary Emergency & Critical Care (ACVECC) as well as a Diplomate of the >ACVIM-Cardiology? No, I didn't. I looked at the ACVECC web site. I was disappointed to find that he is the closest ACVECC Diplomate to where we live (it's about a 1 1/2 hour drive to Tufts). I sure wish there was an emergency vet with his credentials nearby. I didn't count the names on the list, but it seems there are less than a hundred ACVECC Diplomates in the whole country. I think we got lucky to have Dr. Rush looking after TK. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > carpets today and TK is stuck in the basement until > they dry. You didn't get his permission to clean the carpets, did you? That's really why he's pissed. > >Did he have another echo, yet? I'm really curious to know > >if the diltiazem reduced his myocardial hypertrophy. > > Actually, I'm making the appointment this week. Let me know the results, ok? > >Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial > >thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be > >glad to send them to you if you'd like. > > Not sure how much I'd understand, but yes, I would like to read > them. Thanks. You won't have any problem. Do you prefer Word or pdf format? > Do you still have my working E-mail address? Not sure. Better send it to me again. > >Did you know Dr. Rush is also a Diplomate of the American College of > >Veterinary Emergency & Critical Care (ACVECC) as well as a Diplomate of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > on the list, but it seems there are less than a hundred ACVECC > Diplomates in the whole country. ACVECC certification is very tough and requires a lot of actual clinical emergency experience- that's very hard work in itself. Its definitely not just a paper title. I think we got lucky to have Dr. Rush > looking after TK. I'll say! Can't ask for a better combination than double-boarded ACVIM/ACVECC! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Phil P." <phil@maxshouse.com> >> Well, he's a little pissed off, tonight. We cleaned the >> carpets today and TK is stuck in the basement until >> they dry. > >You didn't get his permission to clean the carpets, did you? That's really >why he's pissed. That and: TK hates a closed door and hates being stuck in the basement since that's where he spent most of the first month with us after his "abduction". And, of course, he had to re-mark everything since we screwed up all the scents. He spent the first hour after his "release" rubbing his face on EVERYTHING. >> >Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial >> >thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >You won't have any problem. Do you prefer Word or pdf format? Whichever is most convenient for you. >> Do you still have my working E-mail address? > >Not sure. Better send it to me again. Actually, I just ran some tests on my accounts and the address I originally sent you is acting a little squirrely. I'll E-mail you a different one that's testing more reliable. Oh, and could you send them in 2 separate messages. I've got about a 1meg/message limit on this account. I'm guessing that, individually, they should easily come in at under a meg. Thank's again. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > first hour after his "release" rubbing his face on > EVERYTHING. LOL! That's funny- When any of my cats come home from a vet visit, they have to check and make sure all their scents are exactly where they left them. I've been wanting to move a chair for so long because I hate where it is- but I won't move it because I don't want to deal with their attitudes if I put it where they don't want it. > >> >Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial > >> >thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thank's again. I could send them in text- that's smallest file I can't think of other that zipping it. Phil > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > first hour after his "release" rubbing his face on > EVERYTHING. LOL! That's funny- When any of my cats come home from a vet visit, they have to check and make sure all their scents are exactly where they left them. I've been wanting to move a chair for so long because I hate where it is- but I won't move it because I don't want to deal with their attitudes if I put it where they don't want it. > >> >Btw, I found two very good articles by Dr. Rush on HCM and arterial > >> >thromboembolism from last year's Northeast Veterinary Conference. I'd be [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thank's again. They're only 30 kb each in PDF, so I sent them together and cc the other addy. Let me know if you have a problem receiving them. Phil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Phil P." <phil@maxshouse.com> >> TK hates a closed door and hates being stuck >> in the basement since that's where he spent most [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >but I won't move it because I don't want to deal with their attitudes if I >put it where they don't want it. It's comforting to know that I'm not the only one who's allowed themselves to get "pussy whipped". I've learned that in a battle of will with a cat, I'm gonna lose. Especially with TK, who is the most stubborn cat I have ever met. The other cats that we.ve lived with learned, at least, that "NO" meant "not while I'm watching". TK just looks at us like "Hey, f**k you, I'm a cat", and then does whatever he wants. >They're only 30 kb each in PDF, so I sent them together and cc the other >addy. Let me know if you have a problem receiving them. > >Phil They both came through fine to the new address that I sent. I took a quick look at them and they seem quite readable with my limited knowledge. I'll study them this weekend. I may have a few questions for you after reading them. Thank's Again. > > For the record, is Phil a Vet? > > ha! thought not! just a dude with no life other than his claim to > helping cats. I've never met a cat he allegedly helped.. > > has anyone here? mmmhmmm thought not. Yes, I'm looking at one now. Abbey. And my late cat, Cory. And I've read about countless others here in this ng. And then there are those in his shelter, Max's House. Look around that website. > Ahhh what's wrong Phil, couldn't get your degree to be vet? You're fulla sh.t, Barry. > Knowing something about the subject, makes him somebody in his own > esteem, > however, don't nobody give a rats a.s what you have to contribute, I > sho the f.ck don't, I have never seen one useful bit of practical info > that you have contributed DICK WEED! Other than an occasional laugh Speak for yourself. > Yeah, plenty of people contribute, you're just always first in line for > a pissing match, but the sh.t that comes out of your mouth ain't worth > the bandwidth it takes to post it. Unplug your computer, and shut the > f.ck up, you inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody. My goodness, I fail to see why you are quite so hostile to Phil. Sounds like a personal problem. Candace > > > For the record, is Phil a Vet? > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Candace Thanks Candace shure, that one post alone, but if you put it context, Phil needed his a.s kicked for being rude to the customers. lol He's a dingaling and he knows it. He's arrogant and smug, yeah, smug. I won't have it. I have notta personal with DW, other than taking great joy in defending an innocent poster who gets lambashed by his ugly mouth. > shure, that one post alone, but if you put it context, Phil needed his > a.s kicked for being rude to the customers. It ain't gonna be by you- that's for sure. You ain't smart enough or man enough. > > For the record, is Phil a Vet? > > mhmmm, waaah hahaha > > ha! thought not! Do you always answer your own questions, moron? You're not only monumentally stupid and psychotic- you're also schizophrenic. At least you're never alone and have at least one person who will agree with you! LOL! You have some real serious issues, Barry. LOL! > I've never met a cat he allegedly helped.. That's because you're a psychotic moron with the I.Q. of an ameba. You're far too stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life- as Ruprecht's horrible untimely death demonstrated. Do the cats of the world a favor and stay the hell away from them before your monumental stupidity kills any more of them. Nasty filthy troll > Path: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:45:27 -0500 [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > untimely death demonstrated. Do the cats of the world a favor and stay the > hell away from them before your monumental stupidity kills any more of them. > > Yes, I agree, it seems that Phil is a blessing to this group. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > but It is not directly related to our people skills; and/or our > > personal opinions. Correct. Phil's a good guy. As are most people on this group. You just sort of have to take his negative attributes with his positive ones. For the most part his positive ones outweigh the negative for me, at least. > > For the record, is Phil a Vet? <snip> Barry. Dude, get a grip. > So there dingaling, roll that up and lick it yourself. LOL...that one made me giggle. So few people do so well... > Yeah, plenty of people contribute, you're just always first in line for > a pissing match, but the sh.t that comes out of your mouth ain't worth > the bandwidth it takes to post it. Unplug your computer, and shut the > f.ck up, you inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody. Isn't it cornfed? -L. > > Yes, I agree, it seems that Phil is a blessing to this group. > > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > the bandwidth it takes to post it. Unplug your computer, and shut the > f.ck up, you inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody. ROTFLMAO! I just love pushing your buttons and watching you go psychotic- that's a sign that you have a very weak spirit and mind. How does it feel to be outwitted and controlled by an "inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody", huh, Barry?? LOL! > ROTFLMAO! I just love pushing your buttons and watching you go psychotic- > that's a sign that you have a very weak spirit and mind. How does it feel > to be outwitted and controlled by an "inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody", > huh, Barry?? LOL! don't confuse my indulgences with control > > ROTFLMAO! I just love pushing your buttons and watching you go psychotic- > > that's a sign that you have a very weak spirit and mind. How does it feel > > to be outwitted and controlled by an "inbred, cornbread, bald a.s nobody", > > huh, Barry?? LOL! > > don't confuse my indulgences with control Awww, I shouldn't have told you- now you'll spoil all the fun and try to act rational. > Awww, I shouldn't have told you- now you'll spoil all the fun and try to act > rational. whatever are you talking about hehehe > Anyone of reasonable intelligence who has been on this group for longer > than a week soon discovers that Phil cares about the well-being of > felines and is very knowledgable on many issues about them. Yep. Just like anyone of reasonable intelligence knows very well that my changing posting names is in no way an effort to fool anyone. Phil, you, and everybody else knows exactly which long-term group participant I am. So I don't know about you, Joe, but I am not "playing" anyone. And neither is my Evil Twin Lumpy. :) >>Anyone of reasonable intelligence who has been on this group for longer >>than a week soon discovers that Phil cares about the well-being of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > group participant I am. So I don't know about you, Joe, but I am > not "playing" anyone. And neither is my Evil Twin Lumpy. :) Yep, me too. Hell, I even posted about the nym change IN the group. My main email addy is now spam free. :) > Anyone of reasonable intelligence That leaves out babbling Barry, the village idiot! LOL! who has been on this group for longer > than a week soon discovers that Phil cares about the well-being of > felines and is very knowledgable on many issues about them. > > I've been hanging out in here for years. Phil and I butted heads briefly > at the outset over nutrition issues; however, it was an education for me. But there was a difference- you weren't an a.shole. You had a real desire to learn and understand feline nutrition. You did a lot of research and contacted pet food companies for nutrient data sheets and compared the nutrient values. You weren't just arguing for the hell of it because you were a dry food proponent. > ...don't get a swelled head Phil! :) I'll keep my head in a vice to prevent it from swelling. ;) Prolly a one of those a.shole vets who cares less about animals and is mostly concerned with his own profit. >> I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will >> post "take it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > which medication the cat needs because you can't diagnose the > problem. Already rescued him once from the brink of death. Not going to pay some mecernary prick doctor for what is often incompetent advice, when I can do it myself by ordering from one of the many vet supply stores online. Contrary to what a.sholes like you would like us to believe, you pricks are not the authority on everything under the pets rubric. > If you're too cheap and ignorant to take the cat to a vet- > rehome the cat. You're far too cheap and ignorant to be > entrusted with a cat's life. I'm only cheap when it comes to throwning money at pricks like you. > Btw, blind cats live near normal lives- with the right > caretaker- which ain't you. So don't have the killed because > you're a, ignorant, cheap moron. You're the kind of fuckwit who would keep a pet with kidney failure on dialysis just to satisfy you own selfish needs. > Prolly a one of those a.shole vets who cares less about animals > and is mostly concerned with his own profit. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Already rescued him once from the brink of death. Maybe that's why the cat is already blind in one eye. Not going to pay > some mecernary prick doctor for what is often incompetent advice, > when I can do it myself by ordering from one of the many vet > supply stores online. You don't seem to understand that you can't order the proper medication because you don't know what's wrong with the eye. If you use the wrong medication, you can cause permanent, irreversible damage and severe pain. Even a cheap a.shole like you should be able to figure that much out. Contrary to what a.sholes like you would > like us to believe, you pricks are not the authority on everything > under the pets rubric. "You pricks"? LOL! > > If you're too cheap and ignorant to take the cat to a vet- > > rehome the cat. You're far too cheap and ignorant to be > > entrusted with a cat's life. > > I'm only cheap when it comes to throwning money at pricks like > you. Sorry to disappoint you, a.shole, I'm not a Chippendale dancer. > > Btw, blind cats live near normal lives- with the right > > caretaker- which ain't you. So don't have the killed because > > you're a, ignorant, cheap moron. > > You're the kind of fuckwit who would keep a pet with kidney > failure on dialysis just to satisfy you own selfish needs. Know a lot about dialysis for cats, do you? You're clearly not suited to be entrusted with a cat's life. Take your cat to a vet and ask him to find him a home. When the vet asks you why, tell him because you're too cheap and stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. Once the vet meets you, he'll understand completely. > Prolly a one of those a.shole vets who cares less about animals > and is mostly concerned with his own profit. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > You're the kind of fuckwit who would keep a pet with kidney > failure on dialysis just to satisfy you own selfish needs. Your cat is going to lose the sight in his one good eye if you don't take him in to a vet. How can you live with that? > Prolly a one of those a.shole vets who cares less about animals > and is mostly concerned with his own profit. He's said (often) that he's not a vet. There really are some wonderful vets around. Maybe you could do a little legwork and find one. Try calling the local no-kill shelters and see who does volunteer or reduced rate work for them. sheler listings http://www.h4ha.org/ Sorry shelter listings http://www.h4ha.org/ >> Prolly a one of those a.shole vets who cares less about animals >> and is mostly concerned with his own profit. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > shelters and see who does volunteer or reduced rate work for > them. I know there are some, I just don't have the fat bank account to sort through all the mercenary pr*cks. I tried calling the cat shelter here and they are too damn pussified to give a recommendation. > "whezrsfriend" <whezrsfriend poorhouse.org> wrote in message >> I know there is going to be some moron on this group who will >> post "take it to the vet" AFTER IVE already SAID I CANNOT afford >> to do that. > ...but you can afford a computer and ISP service. You need to > reevaluate your priorities. And miss your master at condescension? > If you're too cheap and ignorant to take the cat to a vet- rehome > the cat. You're far too cheap and ignorant to be entrusted with a > cat's life. Phil P, the rich ninja stud (and self comedian) on the Internet. > So don't have the killed because you're a, ignorant, cheap moron. Sounds like your mother Phil. > Path: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:05:42 -0500 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 > Xref: newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com rec |
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