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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2005Is this wrong?
When I first got Jazz, she started out in the bathroom (a large bathroom) while I did the introduction to Jack. Now she's out 100 percent and she still goes into the bathroom to play. (She's fascinated by the toilet and tub) When she gets really revved up and out of control, I've put her in the bathroom for about 10-15 minutes, kind of a time out. It does cause her to calm down, because she goes to the windowsill and looks out the window. Or sometimes she crawls into a cabinet and takes a nap. But she almost always gets calmed down, and then I let her back out. I've done this probably five times. When I put her in there, I'm stroking her and loving her so she doesn't think it's punishment, just quiet time. Most of the time, she just goes about her business, but she's always glad when I open the door. On occasion, she'll meow when I put her in there, just once, and then does her thing. She doesn't really meow, I guess being deaf, just lets this little mousesqueak. And an update on sweet, sweet Jack. He's really thriving now that he has his sister. Back to the sweet, silly Jack. The last two nights, she was off sleeping, and I heard Jack in the hallway moaning this really odd moan. It sounded like he was hurt, and Dmitri used to moan like that when he was revved up and playing. If you didn't know he did that, you'd think he was in horrible pain. So I rushed out to see what was wrong, and he was sitting in the hall with a toy ball in his mouth, I guess calling someone to play with him. He wanted a playmate, but I don't know if he was calling me, or calling Jazz. I don't think he realizes yet that she can't hear. It was just so sweet to see *him* initiating play. He hadn't done that much since Dmitri died, and it's so wonderful that he's doing so well now. :::relief::: So back to the time out...is that a bad thing to do, or okay? It seems to work, but I don't want her thinking the bathroom is a place for bad girls, just a calm place. A few new pictures: http://photobucket.com/albums/a384/jackjazz/ Juls  SignatureTo email (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i at e-c-t-dot-o-r-g I think it's fine. As she becomes calmer and calmer, she will need fewer time outs. I did this with my new kitten, too. Now he goes into the spare bedroom just at night to sleep. Gail > When I first got Jazz, she started out in the bathroom (a large > bathroom) while I did the introduction to Jack. Now she's out 100 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Juls I don't think this is a bad thing. I will do the same thing with my cat Wally. Soemtimes he gets a little too involved in what I am doing (like when I was painting a room or washing windows, etc.) and he is getting in the way. I'll put him in his bedroom (this is where he spent most of his time when I first got him and was introducing him to my other cat) to keep him out of trouble. At first he gives me the look like "don't put me in here" but later when I check on him, he's either curled up on the bed or sitting in the window and he seems happy. Sue > When I first got Jazz, she started out in the bathroom (a large > bathroom) while I did the introduction to Jack. Now she's out 100 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Juls > So back to the time out...is that a bad thing to do, or okay? It seems > to work, but I don't want her thinking the bathroom is a place for bad [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Juls They are just precious together. Juls, every time I read your updates, my eyes well up...in that good sort of way. I am so glad that Jack is doing well. The butterfly thing totally gives me goosebumps. Good stuff. As for the "time outs"...doesn't sound like a bad thing to me at all. She doesn't seem to respond poorly to it, begging and crying to come out. She chills out and it's exactly what you want her to do. She probably doesn't see the bathroom as a bad place since that is where she lived during her first days with you. I wouldn't worry about it unless you saw some adverse effects on her behavior. :) Pam > They are just precious together. Juls, every time I read your updates, > my eyes well up...in that good sort of way. I am so glad that Jack is > doing well. The butterfly thing totally gives me goosebumps. Good stuff. Thanks, Pam. I'm expecting the butterflies to migrate south now that it's turning cooler, but I've sure loved them. My uncle, who plants flowers just to attract the butterflies, was over the other day and just astonished at how many were out there. When I walk out there, it just takes my breath away every time. SignatureTo email (remove annoying hyphens) j-u-l-i at e-c-t-dot-o-r-g Juls wrote:. > Thanks, Pam. I'm expecting the butterflies to migrate south now that > it's turning cooler, but I've sure loved them. My uncle, who plants > flowers just to attract the butterflies, was over the other day and > just astonished at how many were out there. When I walk out there, it > just takes my breath away every time. It sounds beautiful! Too bad you can't capture it in a photo. I've never seen a bunch of b-flies at once, even at so-called butterfly gardens. The most that I've ever seen at one of those is probably about 5. Someone I work with was telling me about a book (a novel) she just read called, "The Butterfly House." It sounds really good, one of those books with kind of a spiritual element like "The Secret of Keeping Bees.: Glad your little cat family is so happy. Candace > So I rushed out to see what was wrong, and he was sitting in the hall > with a toy ball in his mouth, I guess calling someone to play with him. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Juls This sounds fine, and it's delightful to see your new pictures. As to the moaning: Holly does that same thing. I will hear that moaning sound (that I also thought was pain or distress when I first heard it), and then she will appear beside me and drop a little red mouse at my feet. She has done that every evening for quite a long time, and it is always the same little red mouse. This may be somewhat like cats that bring dead mice as gifts (but I prefer the little red mouse to a real one!). MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") >This sounds fine, and it's delightful to see your new pictures. As to the >moaning: Holly does that same thing. I will hear that moaning sound (that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >red mouse. This may be somewhat like cats that bring dead mice as gifts >(but I prefer the little red mouse to a real one!). My 15 year old Zak does the same thing when he carries objects around in the middle of the night. Sounds like a weird yowl - hurroww hurroww is the closest I can describe it. Now imagine a Japanese kid who learned English from Howard Cossell and say it 3 times :-) -mhd > >This sounds fine, and it's delightful to see your new pictures. As to the > >moaning: Holly does that same thing. I will hear that moaning sound (that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > is the closest I can describe it. Now imagine a Japanese kid who > learned English from Howard Cossell and say it 3 times :-) Heh! As I have mentioned before, my little girl does this with a rubber snake, which she drops at my feet wherever I may be. :) She does this 3-5 times a day/night because I praise her when she does it. I think it is totally hilarious. She has worn most of the green off of this snake, who now has no head and no tail tip. Lately she likes to do this when I am in the shower, as though she is secretly indulging her vice. :) As time has gone on her cries have become even more dramatic and heart rending. It is the cutest thing she does. wrote: >>This sounds fine, and it's delightful to see your new pictures. As to >>the moaning: Holly does that same thing. I will hear that moaning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is the closest I can describe it. Now imagine a Japanese kid who > learned English from Howard Cossell and say it 3 times :-) Why do they make that noise? George started doing that again recently, even louder and more moanfully than he used to. So I go in to the hallway to see what's the matter and it's just George hauling a toy around. He drops the toy and gives me a friendly little meow, like "so what are you looking at?" > wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drops the toy and gives me a friendly little meow, like "so what are you > looking at?" The vet told me "that is the sound they make when they catch something." I think it is "pretend play" and meant to be a gift to you, because you feed them etc. A gesture of love plus play. > My 15 year old Zak does the same thing when he carries objects around > in the middle of the night. Sounds like a weird yowl - hurroww hurroww > is the closest I can describe it. That's *exactly* the sound that my cat, Scottie, makes when he drags his orange squirrel, which is the same color as him, around at night. Hurroww...it sounds like he's trying to say "hello." Candace There is nothing wrong with this. Years ago my older cat Meowzer would get irritated sometimes with the younger cats. I could tell when he was stressed out and would often put him in the back room for the day by himself while I was at work. All I had to do was pick up the extra litter box and put it in the room and he'd run in and sit down and wait for me to shut the door. Sometimes they just need some time to themselfs to unwind just like humans do. Celeste > When I first got Jazz, she started out in the bathroom (a large > bathroom) while I did the introduction to Jack. Now she's out 100 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Juls > When I first got Jazz, she started out in the bathroom (a large > bathroom) while I did the introduction to Jack. Now she's out 100 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Juls Personally, I don't think it's wrong at all. They do not know when to stop sometimes when they are young. I used to have to stop Sugar from playing because she would play til she panted. No clue that "I'm tired" means "stop". They sure are adorable together. |
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