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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2005Hyperthyroid
My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. he is on medication but he is still driving us nutty. he is sooo greedy all the time. we feed the three cats the same flavour food each meal but he is always going to someone else's bowl for their food. the 14 month old just gets on with it and catches his own food to supplement his diet. whereas the lady of the house decides to just walk away and let him scoff her food. we feed them with wet food to make it easy for the 13 yr old's tablets. i am in the UK - what additional food would someone recommend? i don't want to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. I would increase his food. In spite of being on meds, he still needs more. Why not add another few meals? Gail > My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. he > is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > want > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. he already gets 4 meals a day. at the risk of sounding selfish it is difficult, working full time, feeding three cats 4 times a day, whilst ensuring that twice a day Felix gets his drugs and also keeping the other two away from his food. he is constantly at the fridge, cooking a meal is a nightmare. his blood test was done about 2 months after starting his medication and it was fine. i do think he may need to go back in. and that is a nightmare as well. also, the drugs should be regulating his appetite i sound really peeved - i am. it is hard work but my cats are worth it > I would increase his food. In spite of being on meds, he still needs more. > Why not add another few meals? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > want > > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. Is there high quality dry food that he can available to him at all times (in the UK)? In the United States, I like the Max Cat dry food in addition to quality canned food. Gail > he already gets 4 meals a day. at the risk of sounding selfish it is > difficult, working full time, feeding three cats 4 times a day, whilst [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > want >> > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. yes there is - maybe i should have been more clear. hills science diet is available and that is what i used to feed them on before felxi was diagnosed. sorry it is proving hard to type at the minute.... the lady of the house has just jumped up on my lap!! i was thinking of something from the supermarket.... as an addition and not as a "main meal" so to speak. > Is there high quality dry food that he can available to him at all times (in > the UK)? In the United States, I like the Max Cat dry food in addition to [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> > want > >> > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. > he already gets 4 meals a day. at the risk of sounding selfish it is > difficult, working full time, feeding three cats 4 times a day, whilst > ensuring that twice a day Felix gets his drugs and also keeping the other > two away from his food. I sure understand this. I wonder why you feed him four times a day? I have a hyperthyroid cat that used to be free fed, but after being on her medication for over a year, she was cut back to being fed canned food twice a day. She hated it at first but got used to it. > he is constantly at the fridge, cooking a meal is a > nightmare. his blood test was done about 2 months after starting his > medication and it was fine. i do think he may need to go back in. and that > is a nightmare as well. They are major creatures of habit. While I hope you do take him back in, he may be hounding you for food out of sheer habit. > also, the drugs should be regulating his appetite Yes, they should. They did our girl's. > i sound really peeved - i am. > it is hard work but my cats are worth it I think it would be easier on you to feed your cats twice a day about 12 hours apart--after your breakfast and after your dinner, perhaps--and pilling your hyperthyroid cat just after feeding. I find my girl easiest to pill WHILE she is eating. I put down her canned food and let her take a few bites then swoop in and toss the pill in as far back in her throat as I can, dead in the middle so she cannot work it out with her tongue. She eagerly swallows to get it out of the way to get to her food again. Incidentally--she was a BEAST about demanding to be fed at first. I waited her out but it was not easy. Hi thanks for your reply. the feeds he received are portioned by the makers who recommend 4 pouches of food a day. if anyone here uses whiskas pouches here in the UK they will know what i mean when i say the portions are not on the large side. although they all now receive the same flavour he will leave his food and merrily eat someone esle's. once his wet food has been there a while he then looks for another food supply. we then have to lift his food so the other two don't get his medication. someone somewhere ends up losing out. maybe he doesn't like it after his food has been sitting there for a while. maybe he does not like the taste of the tablets crushed over his food. we have to change our habits and way of feeding the cats to ensure we can stand guard over him and make sure he only eats his food. yes - they are creatures of habit. and he will be going back in for tests. i don't think your method of feeding would work for me. he does not seem to like his food out for too long. although i do think dry food may help the situation. as a rule cats don't over eat. > > he already gets 4 meals a day. at the risk of sounding selfish it is > > difficult, working full time, feeding three cats 4 times a day, whilst [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > about demanding to be fed at first. I waited her out but it was not > easy. thanks Gail - i'm was looking to add to their food. cats do only eat want they need so it should not cause a problem for the other two. i have been to the supermarket and bought some dry food. they can munch on that if they need to while we are at work > I would increase his food. In spite of being on meds, he still needs more. > Why not add another few meals? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > want > > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. > My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. he is > on medication but he is still driving us nutty. he is sooo greedy all the > time. we feed the three cats the same flavour food each meal but he is > always going to someone else's bowl for their food. If your cat is still losing weight and has an ravenous appetite his medication probably needs to be adjusted. I strongly suggest you take your cat to the vet to have his serum T4 levels checked as soon as possible. > My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. he is > on medication but he is still driving us nutty. he is sooo greedy all the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > i am in the UK - what additional food would someone recommend? i don't want > to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value. I fail to see a problem here. Leave out a bowl of high quality dry food. There are many to choose from. Wellness brand is great but I do not know if it is sold in the UK. Even decent quality commercial food is adequate in the short term it will take to get the thyroid condition under control. Why think long term when you have a short-term crisis? It took months for my cat to stabilize on Tapazole. He started on .5mg twice a day and is now up to 2mg twice a day. My vet had me bring him in every 4 weeks for blood tests. Each time his T4 was elevated again. He would stabilize briefly then his T4 would skyrocket again. Finally, he seems to be stable 8 months later. So it is very likely that your cat needs a medication adjustment. The long term affect of an elevated thyroid is heart damage. Best not to delay. You could ask the vet about radiocative iodine therapy. It is a one time treatment and is a cure for HT. It is not advisable for all cats but your vet will help you with that. Paul > I fail to see a problem here. Leave out a bowl of high quality dry food. > There are many to choose from. Wellness brand is great but I do not know if > it is sold in the UK. Even decent quality commercial food is adequate in > the short term it will take to get the thyroid condition under control. Why > think long term when you have a short-term crisis? that is exactly what i am saying, if you read back. i just want to make sure i am leaving food out that has a nutritional value. thanks for your input anyway. > Why > > think long term when you have a short-term crisis? > > that is exactly what i am saying, if you read back. i just want to make > sure i am leaving food out that has a nutritional value. thanks for your > input anyway. I don't think you understand the situation and what the problem is-- its not the food. If you're feeding him 4 times a day and he's still hungry and losing weight he needs to be seen by a vet. His T4 levels need to be determined and his medication probably needs to be adjusted. What part of that don't you understand? > I don't think you understand the situation and what the problem is-- its not > the food. If you're feeding him 4 times a day and he's still hungry and > losing weight he needs to be seen by a vet. His T4 levels need to be > determined and his medication probably needs to be adjusted. What part of > that don't you understand? i understand completely thankyouverymuch. the last time he was tested we explained that felix was still a greedy so and so, despite his medication.. he is a greedy cat who suffers from hyperthyroid. what part of that don't *you* understand? why be so aggressive? i ask a question and hope for a reply that will help. thanks anyway, i will remember to leave my questions for places other than a forum that is dedicated to cats health and behaviour. i obviously chose the wrong place to post. silly me! anyway, i have bought some dried food that i can happily leave out for the guys to munch on (that was, btw, the reason i posted) > > I don't think you understand the situation and what the problem is-- its > not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > he is a greedy cat who suffers from hyperthyroid. what part of that don't > *you* understand? The fact that he has a voracious appetite, eats 4 times a day and is still losing weight. That's what. This is a very clear indication that his medication needs to be adjusted- not that he needs more food. His T4 levels may appear normal because he may have an underlying disease that's falsely suppressing his T4 levels. Speak to your vet about a Free T4 by Equilibrium Dialysis assay- costs about $20. The fT4ED assay isn't affected by other diseases because the blood sample is dialysed before its assayed. > why be so aggressive? Because I didn't get through the first time. Some people awaken to a feather's touch- others require a sledgehammer. Since the feather didn't work, I used the sledgehammer- but that didn't seem to work either. Maybe should I try a jackhammer. i ask a question and hope for a reply that will help. > thanks anyway, i will remember to leave my questions for places other than a > forum that is dedicated to cats health and behaviour. i obviously chose the > wrong place to post. silly me! You described your cat's problem but you ignored the explanations for the problem and what to do about it because it wasn't the answer you wanted to hear. That is silly. Several people here have a lot of experience managing hyperthyroid cats- you should listen to them. > anyway, i have bought some dried food that i can happily leave out for the > guys to munch on (that was, btw, the reason i posted) That's not going to solve your cat's problem. It doesn't matter how much he eats- he'll continue to lose weight and will always be hungry. By leaving food out at all times, you're running the risk of your other cats overeating and gaining weight. If your vet can't understand why your cat is still losing weight while he still has a voracious appetite, its time to find another vet. Phil i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who didn't know the condition. i never said he is still losing weight. i admit i posted this clumsily. please ascertain the full facts first. this is a newsgroup - i asked a question, i understand the implications of the condition. i do not need to write a biography of myself and my cats to find out nutritional values of additional foods. would you like to ask me any questions before you assume my ignorance to Felix's condition? please feel free and ask. Sue "My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. he is on medication but he is still driving us nutty. he is sooo greedy all the time. we feed the three cats the same flavour food each meal but he is always going to someone else's bowl for their food. the 14 month old just gets on with it and catches his own food to supplement his diet. whereas the lady of the house decides to just walk away and let him scoff her food. we feed them with wet food to make it easy for the 13 yr old's tablets. i am in the UK - what additional food would someone recommend? i don't want to leave out a bowl of dry food with no nutritional value." > Phil > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who > didn't know the condition. i never said he is still losing weight. i admit > i posted this clumsily. please ascertain the full facts first. Perhaps you should learn how to express yourself a little better so people don't misunderstand you. > this is a newsgroup - i asked a question, i understand the implications of > the condition. i do not need to write a biography of myself and my cats to > find out nutritional values of additional foods. would you like to ask me > any questions before you assume my ignorance to Felix's condition? Nope. You completely removed the need to assume your ignorance- but thanks for asking. Phil - i think you are losing the plot and the reasons for these newsgroups. you also mentioned that i am ignoring responses made about this condition. i think you will see that Paul agreed with me. i no longer need to express my concerns about nutritional requirements. i now have the answer, thanks ever so for your kind wishes and best regards Yours faithfully Sue xxxx > > Phil > > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Nope. You completely removed the need to assume your ignorance- but thanks > for asking. > Phil - i think you are losing the plot and the reasons for these newsgroups. It only seems that way to you because you're initial post was very misleading and I subsequently based my reply on your misleading message. Had you described the situation correctly, we would not be having this discussion. > you also mentioned that i am ignoring responses made about this condition. > i think you will see that Paul agreed with me. Actually, Paul said exactly what I did: "So it is very likely that your cat needs a medication adjustment." -- which you also completely ignored instead of clarifying your initial message. That's why I said you ignored the explanations for the problem. > i no longer need to express my concerns about nutritional requirements. i > now have the answer, Lets hope solving one problem doesn't create another problem- i.e., your other cats overeating and becoming overweight or obese-- if they aren't already. > thanks ever so for your kind wishes and best regards You're welcome. I always wish the best for the cats-- its some of their owners that are annoying. > Yours faithfully > Sue > xxxx How sweet- kisses and hugs to you too... > > > Phil > > > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Nope. You completely removed the need to assume your ignorance- but thanks > > for asking. i would like to say it was fun discussing my cats needs but unfortunately it wasn't. i have picked up some valuable advice, Paul suggests i put out some dry food. well, what do you know?? Feed the cats twice a day - would like to but reasons discussed it is not practical. take Feliz to the vet - uhuh of course. no need to tell me that. what more have i learned today?? did i ignore respones or were they not applicable to my original post? more to the point what was my question? was it do i need to take my cat to the vets? or was it about additional foods and nutritional requirements? for those of you in this group who post as a means to provide help and support, my thanks go out to you. Come on Phil get a grip (of reality) is this how you treat newbies to the group? is there an initiation ceremony i need to be aware of? how about i post my credentials? do you neeed to see my cats records? would you prefer it if i post in a few months to say that my cat's condition has worstened - maybe you would like to tell me "i told you so". sorry, i'm just not getting the point of this NG and your replies. > > Phil - i think you are losing the plot and the reasons for these > newsgroups. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > thanks > > > for asking. > is this how you treat newbies to the group? is there an initiation ceremony > i need to be aware of? how about i post my credentials? do you neeed to see > my cats records? would you prefer it if i post in a few months to say that > my cat's condition has worstened - maybe you would like to tell me "i told > you so". None of the above. Just learn to post messages that aren't misleading. Is that clear enough for you? > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who > didn't know the condition. i never said he is still losing weight. <snip> > "My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc. I understood this to mean "losing weight." It sounds like you mean he was losing weight but isn't now. It's hard to tell.  SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who > > didn't know the condition. i never said he is still losing weight. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I understood this to mean "losing weight." It sounds like you mean he > was losing weight but isn't now. It's hard to tell. "My 13 yr old cat has hyperthyroid, excess energy, losing weight etc" Sure sounds to me like the cat *is* losing weight and not that the cat "was" losing weight. diane it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down in flames for my explaining the condition? Jeez - this is hard work > > i expressed the symptoms of hyperthyroid by way of explaining to those who > > didn't know the condition. i never said he is still losing weight. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ > Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > diane > it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down in > flames for my explaining the condition? > > Jeez - this is hard work No, I don't think you deserve to be shot down in flames, but am explaining to you that you didn't communicate the cat's current condition well so it was very confusing and that it sounds like more than one of us misinterpreted. That's all. Usenet is all words, no body language, no ability to clarify in real time, so it's important to be as clear as possible. I think the ability to communicate is not regarded as highly as it should be and should be developed as much as possible. SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ i can appreciate the point that you are making. however i was asking about additional food requirments. wouldn't it have been more fitting for someone to reply along the lines of...... "your cat is still on medication but is losing weight?" questions and answers..... i have apologised for clumsy posting BUT i reiterate i was asking about additional food requiremenst and concerns about nutritional values. Paul answered this for me and recommended a US brand. all i can see at the moment is that some want to prove they know and love their cats more. Rant over - thanks Diane for taking the time > > diane > > it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ > Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > i can appreciate the point that you are making. however i was asking about > additional food requirments. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "your cat is still on medication but is losing weight?" Why? You already said you're cat was losing weight and he is on medication. Why would anyone ask a question that you already answered? Knock knock? In my first post to you I said "If your cat is still losing weight and has an ravenous appetite his medication probably needs to be adjusted." Paul concurred. *You* should have clarified your message and said he was no longer losing weight. The fact that he still has a ravenous appetite while being fed 4 times a day is a very clear indication that his medication probably needs to be adjusted. Giving him more food is simply treating the symptom- not the *cause*. Do you understand that concept and its deleterious consequences? Or are you just normally obtuse? Phil i agree with everything you say - you are *so* right, sorry sorry so so so sorry do you forgive me?? > > i can appreciate the point that you are making. however i was asking > about [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > you understand that concept and its deleterious consequences? Or are you > just normally obtuse? > Phil > > i agree with everything you say You can't agree with something you don't understand. > - you are *so* right, Yes- I know. sorry > sorry That's how I feel for your poor cat. Phil i agree with what you say. you are, of course, right i know - so stupid for sending out a post about something i don't understand to a NG dedicated to cats health and behaviour, about the cats i do not care about. it is all so clear to me now > > Phil > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That's how I feel for your poor cat. > Phil > > i agree with what you say. you are, of course, right I know. So are the other 2 experienced people who told you the same thing. They didn't get through to you either. > i know - so stupid for sending out a post about something i don't understand Seeking knowledge and information isn't stupid- that's how most people learn. Stupid is being obtuse and disregarding valid information when its presented to you. Ignorance is curable- stupidity is usually terminal. i know - thanks for pointing it out to me how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not listen to the advice of others. the advice given clearly had not occurred to me. who would have thought of taking my cat to the vet? thanks again for listening and being so understanding > > Phil > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > learn. Stupid is being obtuse and disregarding valid information when its > presented to you. Ignorance is curable- stupidity is usually terminal. > i know - thanks for pointing it out to me Anytime. Its always a pleasure to enlighten the obtuse. > how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not listen to > the advice of others. You're right. > i know - thanks for pointing it out to me > how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not listen to > the advice of others. the advice given clearly had not occurred to me. who > would have thought of taking my cat to the vet? > > thanks again for listening and being so understanding Sue, why are you being so defensive? Phil gave you some good advice, especially on some tests to get for your cat. I read your first post and thought the same thing he did, that your cat's medication probably needs to be adjusted. I can't help thinking that from what you said and in your own words "i sound really peeved - i am." you are taking out your frustration of your situation on posters who are trying to help you. I understand how hard it can be taking care of a sick cat. Maybe if you take a little breather, you might feel better. Honestly, it does sounds like the medication isn't doing all that it's supposed to be. I do hope Felix feels better. Lauren See my cats: http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 > http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 Does "Mickey Innocent" mean he usually isn't? Pooh Bear looks like Hodge, even down to the dark speck in the corner of the eye. (One of my friends says it's his one facial flaw, whereas I like to think of it as a beauty mark, or, if you prefer, a character mark. :) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > > http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 > > Does "Mickey Innocent" mean he usually isn't? Absolutely!! He's my little terror with fur :) > Pooh Bear looks like Hodge, even down to the dark speck in the corner of > the eye. (One of my friends says it's his one facial flaw, whereas I > like to think of it as a beauty mark, or, if you prefer, a character > mark. :) I looked at pictures on your website of Hodge. He's gorgeous and he does definitely look like Pooh Bear. Poor Bear belonged to a friend of mine. Unfortunately Poor Bear passed on this past summer due to old age related illness. Your Hodge was so beautiful, and I love her coloring :) Lauren (and Mickey & Meesha) Raise Your Paw for Raw! See my cats: http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 > > i know - thanks for pointing it out to me > > how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not listen to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lauren HI Lauren i posted about additional fod requirements. Gail and Paul both suggested dry food - along my thinking although i had concerns of giving my cats something that had no nutritional value. Phil's first post advised me strongly to take my cat to the vets. Am i ignoring this advice? and is it advice needed? His second post "what part of that don't you understand?" was that really necessary? and it just kind of went on from there. I do know the problems associated with hyperthyroid and we are dealing with it. we are looking for solutions at home as well as medical solutions. i am not taking frustrations out on posters becasue my cat is sick. Phil is taking his frustrations out on me because he thinks i am not listening. Phil also assumes i do not know (my) cats. i think he thinks i am neglecting them. he also appears worried about my other two cats - he wonders if they are obese. obviously a sign of my my neglect. piece it all together and you get defensive. if i did not care about my cats would i be trying to manage this situation as i am? or would i have said goddbye to Felix because it was too difficult? would i have bothered to ask a question in a NG to try to establish if what i wanted to do was right? Felix is much better today thank you. the dry food certainly helps even though it is only day two. he now has dry food for breakfast and then portion controlled food x3 during the day. > > > i know - thanks for pointing it out to me > > > how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not listen [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > dry food - along my thinking although i had concerns of giving my cats > something that had no nutritional value. You wanted answers for how to treat the *symptoms* because they annoy you and completely ignored suggestions for treating the *cause*. > Phil's first post advised me strongly to take my cat to the vets. Am i > ignoring this advice? Yep. Your only concern is giving your cat more food so he'll stop being such a nuisance and inconvenience. > and is it advice needed? Absolutely. Because you obviously don't have the common sense to realize that a voracious appetite in a hyperthyroid cat on methimazole is a glaringly obvious signal that the dose needs to be adjusted and/or that he may have an underlying problem. You just kept rambling on about the cat's voracious appetite and how you just want to give the cat more food so he won't be a nuisance, and completely ignored finding and treating the *cause* of his voracious appetite. His second post "what part of > that don't you understand?" was that really necessary? Absolutely! Your original post was very misleading and you did *nothing* to correct the false impression you gave until you were angered by my remark "what part of that don't you understand?" So, even someone as obtuse as you can see, my remark was indeed necessary and served a valuable purpose. As I said, the feather didn't work on you- but the sledgehammer did. and it just kind of > went on from there. Yep- you went off on your guilt-trip/persecution complex. > I do know the problems associated with hyperthyroid and we are dealing with > it. Doesn't seem like you're doing a very good job. > we are looking for solutions at home as well as medical solutions. ...but you ignored the medical solution because taking the cat back to the vet is a problem and inconvenience for you-- i > am not taking frustrations out on posters becasue my cat is sick. It sure seems like you are. Your attitude actually sounds a little like you might even resent the cat because he may have been forced upon you. Phil is > taking his frustrations out on me because he thinks i am not listening. Obtuse and obstinate people are indeed frustrating. > Phil also assumes i do not know (my) cats. i think he thinks i am neglecting > them. he also appears worried about my other two cats - he wonders if they > are obese. obviously a sign of my my neglect. That about sums up the impression you gave me. Amazing its so accurate. piece it all together and > you get defensive. Seems more like guilt to me. if i did not care about my cats would i be trying to > manage this situation as i am? or would i have said goddbye to Felix because > it was too difficult? would i have bothered to ask a question in a NG to try > to establish if what i wanted to do was right? Bullshit! You came here looking for feeding advice because your cat's voracious appetite is an *inconvenience* for *you*-- otherwise you would have expressed concern about why the medication wasn't controlling his appetite. The *only* thing you seem concerned with is how to get your cat to stop annoying you for food. Rational people and people who truly care about their cats don't try to prove or convince people that they care about their cats just because you're doing what you're *supposed* to do. You make it sound like you should be praised and you're doing your cat a favor by treating his illness. You're *not*! Its your *obligation* and *responsibility*. > Felix is much better today thank you. the dry food certainly helps even > though it is only day two. he now has dry food for breakfast and then > portion controlled food x3 during the day. That's right-- treat the symptoms and ignore the cause. You truly are a dolt. Phil - it is the weekend - what can a vet do now? . i think your reaction is extremely inappropraite. how have i ignored the solutions given to me? it is inconvenient when Felix is around your feet when preparing food - more to the point it is dangerous. so, i am only considering feeding him with more food? is this the case? no - i am looking for a solution in addition to his medication, in fact it is also a solution suggested within this thread. voracious appetite? fussy eating, a danger in the kitchen - these all add up to me looking at a dry food solution to Felix feeding routine. sledgehammer completely unnecessary. is this how to you convey with people in public or do you hide behind your monitor? i do not have a guilt/persecution complex. i think i am doing a great job. i know of my obligation and responsibility. there is so much animal abuse out there - what i am doing is not commendable, it is in fact responsible. how is it an inconvenience to me to take the cat back to the vet? it is so inconvenient right now. it is the weekend. although they have an emergency contact point this is not an emergency. i resent my cat?? just where do you get that from? Obtuse and obstinate people are indeed frustrating. I agree anyway - i have to go and live a life that exists beyond this screen. i will meet up with friends and strangers and we will all act like civilised human beings. who knows - i may even spend some time with my 3 neglected cats. > > > > i know - thanks for pointing it out to me > > > > how silly of me to get involved with cats for 13 years and to not [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > That's right-- treat the symptoms and ignore the cause. You truly are a > dolt. > anyway - i have to go I thought you'd never stop whining. Come back when you can't stay so long. > diane > it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down in > flames for my explaining the condition? "Shot down in flames"? ROTFL I see you're also a drama queen! I really get a kick out of the "poor little innocent victim acts". I'll say this much for you-- you sure picked the right screen name! LOL! >>diane >>it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'll say this much for you-- you sure picked the right screen name! LOL! There is a part missing. ...Cadet. <laughing> for some reason Phil's post didn't appear - sorry to reply via someone else's post. Phil - what is your problem? what have i done that is so wrong? please tell me. let's see - i didn't take the time to re-read my original post. from what i can tell that is all. the name Space? so what? drama queen....how so? let's see - you are getting a kick out of this. well, whoopy doo to you. > >>diane > >>it was a method of explaining hyperthyroid. do i deserve to be shot down [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > <laughing> > for some reason Phil's post didn't appear - sorry to reply via someone > else's post. > > Phil - what is your problem? Your treatment of your cat. > what have i done that is so wrong? please tell me. If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer. Sue wroteZ: >he is on medication but he is still driving >us nutty. he is sooo greedy all the time. >we feed the three cats the same flavour >food each meal but he is always going to >someone else's bowl for their food. If your cat is still very greedy where food is concerned and is eating a lot, it is very likely that the medication he is on for his thyroid needs to be adjusted. With cats that are hyperthyroid, it is common to have to adjust the medication several times before the disease is properly controlled. From what you describe, it sure sounds like his dose is not right yet, and it would be best if you took him back and had his thyroid rechecked. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > Sue wroteZ: > >he is on medication but he is still driving [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Megan thanks Megan he will be going to the vets in the very near future to have his blood tested again however, today we introduced dry food for his breakfast (well that is the intention, he actually had it at lunch time) and so far it has been a result. he ate what he needed and left the rest. and now is putting his feet up in front of the fire |
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