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Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 05:01 GMT
I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats
as I might be leaving for Las Vegas for a few days. I am considering a
sitter come in but don't know any I could trust as they would be strangers
to my cats and me as well. I also would be worried that if I did hire a
sitter to come in twice a day to check on them that they might not get food
or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic
feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 07:01 GMT
>I am considering a sitter come in but
>don't know any I could trust as they would
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>them that they might not get food or
>water.

Call vet offices in your area and ask for a recommendation for a
catsitter. Vet offices have a reputation to uphold, and therefore a
stake in who they refer, and have to make sure the services they
recommend honest and reliable. Get several references from any potential
catsitters you interview and check them all. It would be extremely
irresponsible to leave your cats alone for several days with nobody
checking on them (and having to use a dirty litterbox.) Many things can
happen and even a day could mean the difference between a live cat and a
dead one.

I am a professional catsitter and just yesterday a cat I'm caring for
got sick and I ended up taking her to an internal medicine specialist
where she is at this very moment hospitalized with a feeding tube and an
IV. What would have happened to her if she had been that sick for days
with nobody to help her? I've had a couple of instances where a cat I
was caring for developed a urinary blockage. Fortunately in each
instance I was very aware of what was going on in the litterbox and the
cats behavior and was able to get him to a vet immediately. If any of
those cats had been left alone for several days they'd be dead now. Any
number of other things can happen-fires or break-ins for example.

At the very minimum you should have someone come in at least once a day.
I refuse to accept jobs where someone wants me to come every other day.
My cats require a lot of specialized care and the few times I have had
to go out of town I have paid someone not only to care for my cats twice
a day, but to live at my house as well.

It is in the best interests of your cats and worth the peace of mind to
know that they are being looked after every day while you're gone.
Hiring a catsitter is the best and safest option.

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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 14:06 GMT
>>I am considering a sitter come in but
>>don't know any I could trust as they would
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> stake in who they refer, and have to make sure the services they
> recommend honest and reliable.

Right. If you believe that, I have mosquito infested swamp land in
northern Quebec I can sell you.  :)

Unfortunately, I have an experience of exactly the opposite.

A place that was recommended by a vet office that turned out to be the
little house of horrors for my cat.

I only discovered this place was the "house of horrors" because I
returned back 4 days earlier than expected and caught the owners with
their pants down... so to speak.

I'm certain they had intended on cleaning the situation up perhaps a day
or two before my expected arrival back in town, but prior to that hell
was out for recess.

> Get several references from any potential
> catsitters you interview and check them all. It would be extremely
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> - W.H. Murray
>  
zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 15:15 GMT
>Unfortunately, I have an experience of
>exactly the opposite.

Granted, you had ONE bad experience, but that is far from the norm and
to make a sweeping judgement based on that is neither fair or
reasonable. Hopefully you took action and reported the facilty to the
proper authoriies and also let the vet know what happened so they don't
recommend them anymore and no other cats have to go through what yours
did.

You also dealt with a boarding facility. What is being discussed here is
a catsitter that comes to the home and that's a lot different. If you
read my post you'll also see that I told the OP to get *several*
references and check them all. Hiring anyone to care for your animals
based on only one recommendation is never wise and a qualified and
reliable catsitter will be more than happy to provide a list of
references.

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raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT
>>Unfortunately, I have an experience of
>>exactly the opposite.
>
> Granted, you had ONE bad experience, but that is far from the norm and
> to make a sweeping judgement based on that is neither fair or
> reasonable.

I spoke from my experience rather than making a sweeping judgement.

BTW, it only takes ONE bad experience to have a reputation ruined, a pet
terrorized and one to become very cautious. I'd rather not risk a SECOND
experience.

> Hopefully you took action and reported the facilty to the
> proper authoriies and also let the vet know what happened so they don't
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> reliable catsitter will be more than happy to provide a list of
> references.

Experience has taught me that references should always be considered
with a grain of salt, particulary since the person providing them will
only provide references that have good things to say. It is not in their
best interests to do otherwise.

> Megan
>
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> - W.H. Murray
>  
Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 21:09 GMT
Well I don't intend of having my cats boarded at any facility.  I am
interested in them staying here at home where they would be most
comfortable.

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>>>Unfortunately, I have an experience of
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>>
>> - W.H. Murray
Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 21:07 GMT
Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if
something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic
feeders and waterers work. If I do indeed go away for 3 days I am planning
on having the sitter come in once or twice the week before so I can see how
she handles my cats. I do intend on checking her references. She sent me a
list with 7 of them. She also is certified by NAPPS. I am not sure if that
is good or not.

This cat sitter lives a block away from me. I told her that I would probably
be one of those people who calls twice a day to make sure the cats were ok.
I am very protective of them and I have had several thoughts about just
staying home with the cats and skipping the trip to Las Vegas for 3 days.

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>>>I am considering a sitter come in but
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>>
>> - W.H. Murray
Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 21:27 GMT
> Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if
> something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic
> feeders and waterers work.

I have a Drinkwell pet fountain that has been extremely reliable over
the course of 5 years.

Even with the electricity off, the water is still available... it just
doesn't flow in a fountain like manner.

Drinkwell also have a water volume capacity add-on as well.

I have no experience with automatic feeders; however, if your cats
consume dry you can leave enough bowls of food out to cover the period
or have your cat-sitter put food out.
DevilsPGD - 08 Oct 2005 04:18 GMT
>> Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if
>> something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Even with the electricity off, the water is still available... it just
>doesn't flow in a fountain like manner.

I currently have two of Petmate's large size with four cats, and can go
3 days with one and 5 days with the other before the water stops
flowing, and over a week and there is still water (although not enough
for the pump to force it to flow -- The pump is still submerged, so
there is no risk of it overheating and starting a fire yet)

(The difference in the amount of time between refills is because one
gets more use when I'm home.  When it stops running but still has water
the cats go to the other and drink from it.  If they both stop running
then the cats return to the first and use it until the water runs out.

If it were me, I'd go for an automatic feeder AND a pet sitter -- If
either fails, the other should pick up the slack.

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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 14:26 GMT
> I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
> water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic
> feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?

Part of the duties of a sitter is to ensure your pets have adequate food
and water.

Ideally, this would be someone you know. If not, checking references
isn't much good... because no one in their right mind provides
references that don't have good things to say.

Word of mouth works well, talk to other pet owners in your area.

On the other hand, your cats might be just fine for 2 - 3 days with an
adequate supply of water & food. It very much depends on the nature of
your cats and whether they have any medical conditions.

I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days. She was much better left
alone at home than being boarded. Adequate supply of water was supplied
by a drinking fountain and bowls of food left in the house.

It is a rare event this happens... she was left alone once in 5 years.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 15:25 GMT
>I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days.

That time, but what if something had happened? There would be nobody to
know and help your cat. I have a neighbor who decided to leave his two
cats for seven days with a big bowl of food and one litterbox. He called
me at about 1 in the morning after several days had passed. He'd been in
a car accident and totaled his car and wasn't able to get home. Of
course I went right over to his house to check the cats and the food was
already gone, the water was almost gone and the litterbox was nasty.
Lucky for him I had access to a key and lucky for the cats they didn't
have to spend several days without food and water and having to wade
through a gross litterbox. I read him the riot act when he got back and
he admitted what he had done was stupid and irresponsible. Now any time
he goes out of town I come over twice a day and take care of the cats
and everyone is happy.

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splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 18:19 GMT
>>I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days.
>
> That time, but what if something had happened?

That was the first time in 5 years. Nothing did happen.
Kitkat - 08 Oct 2005 01:23 GMT
> I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
> water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic
> feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?

We JUST got an automatic feeder. It is called "PetMate" and it has
compartments for 5 feedings, a timer, and a space underneat the feeder
for ice packs. We use it because Dudley will wake up around 5am
SCREAMING for food. This way, he gets the food and we dont have to wake
up! :)

very happy with her feeder,
pam
:)
Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 03:44 GMT
Well, the situation has changed. I may be just going for an overnight visit
instead of 3 days unless I just do a fly in on the day of the wedding and
flying out same day. I am still considering the cat sitter option but am
wonder if it is just overnight whether I should just get a feeder for the
cats and a waterer. I saw ones today for $9 that aren't mechanized but they
have bowls attached to a jug that you fill with water and food. The food one
holds about 5lbs of food and I guess as the cats eat the food drops or
slides down refilling the bowl. The other was a waterer that has a jug
attached that you fill with water and there is a small hole that I guess
keeps filling it with water.

I thought about those with extra bowls of food and water if it is overnight.
Question is would I still need a pet sitter for an overnight visit? I was
still considering that option.

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>> I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
>> water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> pam
> :)
Joe Canuck - 08 Oct 2005 12:52 GMT
> Well, the situation has changed. I may be just going for an overnight visit
> instead of 3 days unless I just do a fly in on the day of the wedding and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Question is would I still need a pet sitter for an overnight visit? I was
> still considering that option.

Don't bother with a pet sitter for only an overnight visit. Hopefully
you do have someone you can call should the visit be extended, for some
unforseen reason.

You won't need 5 lbs of food for an overnight visit. Put out the amount
of food you normally would for 2 days. It will be more problematic if
you feed canned, however I suspect you feed dry. In that case, leave
enough dry food out for 2 days.
MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 02:04 GMT
>I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
>water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic
>feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?

I have never used automatic feeders because I think it is important to
monitor the amount of intake.  I use canned cat food, but it is important
even with dry food to be able to observe any change in eating habits.  I did
attempt an automatic waterer, but Holly quickly turned it into a toy, and I
had a small lake surrounding the waterer where she scooped the water out and
threw it in all directions.

Please do not even consider leaving your cats alone for more than one day.
It's true that many cats have been left alone for several days, with no ill
effects.  However, it's also true that an emergency can arise and there
would be no one to take action.  I recently saw for myself how quickly that
can happen even to a very healthy and active cat (fortunately, I was home).
I noticed Holly limping one morning.  There had been no previous signs, and
I couldn't see anything wrong -- she is a solid black cat, including the
pads, so it it very difficult to see.  The vet finally found what looked
like a slight cut and prescribed antibiotics and pain med.  The next day,
Holly was obviously in intense pain.  The pad was now badly swollen.  This
time, the vet used gas to anesthetize her so he could probe the wound.  Pus
flew from the pad as soon as he began probing, and he discovered an absess.
This means that Holly had had a wound for some time but had shown no signs
(cats are notorious for hiding pain).  However, the injury progressed so
much overnight that she would have been in great distress if I had not seen
the change and immediately returned to the vet.  It is very important to
have someone come in to feed and water your cats but also to spend some time
with them and observe their actions.

I use a pet sitter every summer when I go on vacation.  I contacted several
references (and fortunately knew several of them) and had the pet sitter
come to my house in advance so she and my cats could become familiar with
each othr.  She becomes "another me" when I am gone -- she comes in twice a
day, changes food and water, cleans the litter boxes, plays with the cats,
brings in mail and papers, and even spends some time at the kitchen table
having a cup of coffee and watching the birds outside the kitchen window.
Incidentally, I later learned that she also checked *me* out at the same
time I was checking her references.  She is just as careful about the homes
she visits and the type of care people give their cats as I am about who I
wanted to invite into my home to care for Holly and Duffy.

MaryL
Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 04:28 GMT
My cats are free eaters.

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>>I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> MaryL
MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 04:38 GMT
> My cats are free eaters.

Even so, you should watch closely enough so that you could detect any
changes in their dietary habits (which could be a medical problem).
Moreover, what about the other issue I raised? -- that is, the possibility
of a real emergency arising with no one around to catch it in time if the
cats are left alone for an extended period of time.  Of course, this was
based on your first message about leaving for "a few days."  I noticed that
one of your later messages raised the possibility of going only for an
overnight visit, and in still another message you mentioned the possibility
of using a pet sitter.  I strongly recommend that you use a pet sitter if
you go for more than 24 hours.

MaryL
Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 05:30 GMT
Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours. I
think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the next day.
Would I still need a cat sitter or will feeders be ok? I saw some at Walmart
that were around $9. They aren't auto feeders. You fill a small jug with the
food (up to 5lbs of dry) and I guess it slides down into the dish as the
cats eat from the bowl. If I use this plan for them, I'll be laying out
extra food for them plus a water dispenser (not electric or anything) that
holds 1 gallon of water and has a small hole at the bottom. They also will
have two extra dishes filled with water as well. Would all this be enough
for a safe overnight visit?

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>> My cats are free eaters.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> MaryL
MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 07:00 GMT
> Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours. I
> think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the next
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> They also will have two extra dishes filled with water as well. Would all
> this be enough for a safe overnight visit?

If you're only going to be gone for 24 hours, that's more than adequate.  I
would still suggest that you provide someone with a key and have that person
"on call" in case of an emergency (for example, missed or canceled flights).

MaryL
5cats - 08 Oct 2005 14:31 GMT
> Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours.
> I think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the
> next day. Would I still need a cat sitter or will feeders be ok?

I wouldn't get a cat sitter if I was going to be away just one night
(assuming the cats are healthy and don't need any special food or meds.)

But, if you think your going to be traveling often in the future, a short
trip might be a good opportunity to have a trial run with a sitter so you
can have a plan prepared for the future. Just a thought.
Phil P. - 08 Oct 2005 02:53 GMT
> I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
> water dispensers for cats?

Forget the automatic feeders- they're only programmable for 1, 24-hour
period and they could malfunction. If you have a friend, which I doubt, ask
them to feed and check in on your cats a few times a day.  Otherwise, hire a
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boshicat - 16 Nov 2005 19:47 GMT
I use them every day.  Keep them both filled, etc.  I have five cats and have
gone out of town for two weeks and everyone was fine when I got home.  I have
the large ones.  Of course the litter boxes were overflowing...

>I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and
>water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic
>feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?
 
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