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Automatic Feeders & Waterers
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Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 05:01 GMT I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats as I might be leaving for Las Vegas for a few days. I am considering a sitter come in but don't know any I could trust as they would be strangers to my cats and me as well. I also would be worried that if I did hire a sitter to come in twice a day to check on them that they might not get food or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 07:01 GMT >I am considering a sitter come in but >don't know any I could trust as they would [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >them that they might not get food or >water. Call vet offices in your area and ask for a recommendation for a catsitter. Vet offices have a reputation to uphold, and therefore a stake in who they refer, and have to make sure the services they recommend honest and reliable. Get several references from any potential catsitters you interview and check them all. It would be extremely irresponsible to leave your cats alone for several days with nobody checking on them (and having to use a dirty litterbox.) Many things can happen and even a day could mean the difference between a live cat and a dead one.
I am a professional catsitter and just yesterday a cat I'm caring for got sick and I ended up taking her to an internal medicine specialist where she is at this very moment hospitalized with a feeding tube and an IV. What would have happened to her if she had been that sick for days with nobody to help her? I've had a couple of instances where a cat I was caring for developed a urinary blockage. Fortunately in each instance I was very aware of what was going on in the litterbox and the cats behavior and was able to get him to a vet immediately. If any of those cats had been left alone for several days they'd be dead now. Any number of other things can happen-fires or break-ins for example.
At the very minimum you should have someone come in at least once a day. I refuse to accept jobs where someone wants me to come every other day. My cats require a lot of specialized care and the few times I have had to go out of town I have paid someone not only to care for my cats twice a day, but to live at my house as well.
It is in the best interests of your cats and worth the peace of mind to know that they are being looked after every day while you're gone. Hiring a catsitter is the best and safest option.
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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 14:06 GMT >>I am considering a sitter come in but >>don't know any I could trust as they would [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > stake in who they refer, and have to make sure the services they > recommend honest and reliable. Right. If you believe that, I have mosquito infested swamp land in northern Quebec I can sell you. :)
Unfortunately, I have an experience of exactly the opposite.
A place that was recommended by a vet office that turned out to be the little house of horrors for my cat.
I only discovered this place was the "house of horrors" because I returned back 4 days earlier than expected and caught the owners with their pants down... so to speak.
I'm certain they had intended on cleaning the situation up perhaps a day or two before my expected arrival back in town, but prior to that hell was out for recess.
> Get several references from any potential > catsitters you interview and check them all. It would be extremely [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > - W.H. Murray > zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 15:15 GMT >Unfortunately, I have an experience of >exactly the opposite. Granted, you had ONE bad experience, but that is far from the norm and to make a sweeping judgement based on that is neither fair or reasonable. Hopefully you took action and reported the facilty to the proper authoriies and also let the vet know what happened so they don't recommend them anymore and no other cats have to go through what yours did.
You also dealt with a boarding facility. What is being discussed here is a catsitter that comes to the home and that's a lot different. If you read my post you'll also see that I told the OP to get *several* references and check them all. Hiring anyone to care for your animals based on only one recommendation is never wise and a qualified and reliable catsitter will be more than happy to provide a list of references.
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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT >>Unfortunately, I have an experience of >>exactly the opposite. > > Granted, you had ONE bad experience, but that is far from the norm and > to make a sweeping judgement based on that is neither fair or > reasonable. I spoke from my experience rather than making a sweeping judgement.
BTW, it only takes ONE bad experience to have a reputation ruined, a pet terrorized and one to become very cautious. I'd rather not risk a SECOND experience.
> Hopefully you took action and reported the facilty to the > proper authoriies and also let the vet know what happened so they don't [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > reliable catsitter will be more than happy to provide a list of > references. Experience has taught me that references should always be considered with a grain of salt, particulary since the person providing them will only provide references that have good things to say. It is not in their best interests to do otherwise.
> Megan > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > - W.H. Murray > Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 21:09 GMT Well I don't intend of having my cats boarded at any facility. I am interested in them staying here at home where they would be most comfortable.
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> >>>Unfortunately, I have an experience of [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> - W.H. Murray Cat Protector - 07 Oct 2005 21:07 GMT Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic feeders and waterers work. If I do indeed go away for 3 days I am planning on having the sitter come in once or twice the week before so I can see how she handles my cats. I do intend on checking her references. She sent me a list with 7 of them. She also is certified by NAPPS. I am not sure if that is good or not.
This cat sitter lives a block away from me. I told her that I would probably be one of those people who calls twice a day to make sure the cats were ok. I am very protective of them and I have had several thoughts about just staying home with the cats and skipping the trip to Las Vegas for 3 days.
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> >>>I am considering a sitter come in but [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >> >> - W.H. Murray Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 21:27 GMT > Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if > something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic > feeders and waterers work. I have a Drinkwell pet fountain that has been extremely reliable over the course of 5 years.
Even with the electricity off, the water is still available... it just doesn't flow in a fountain like manner.
Drinkwell also have a water volume capacity add-on as well.
I have no experience with automatic feeders; however, if your cats consume dry you can leave enough bowls of food out to cover the period or have your cat-sitter put food out.
DevilsPGD - 08 Oct 2005 04:18 GMT >> Actually I am still considering the cat sitter. I'd be too worried if >> something to happened to my cats. I was just checking to see if automatic [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Even with the electricity off, the water is still available... it just >doesn't flow in a fountain like manner. I currently have two of Petmate's large size with four cats, and can go 3 days with one and 5 days with the other before the water stops flowing, and over a week and there is still water (although not enough for the pump to force it to flow -- The pump is still submerged, so there is no risk of it overheating and starting a fire yet)
(The difference in the amount of time between refills is because one gets more use when I'm home. When it stops running but still has water the cats go to the other and drink from it. If they both stop running then the cats return to the first and use it until the water runs out.
If it were me, I'd go for an automatic feeder AND a pet sitter -- If either fails, the other should pick up the slack.
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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 14:26 GMT > I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and > water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic > feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there? Part of the duties of a sitter is to ensure your pets have adequate food and water.
Ideally, this would be someone you know. If not, checking references isn't much good... because no one in their right mind provides references that don't have good things to say.
Word of mouth works well, talk to other pet owners in your area.
On the other hand, your cats might be just fine for 2 - 3 days with an adequate supply of water & food. It very much depends on the nature of your cats and whether they have any medical conditions.
I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days. She was much better left alone at home than being boarded. Adequate supply of water was supplied by a drinking fountain and bowls of food left in the house.
It is a rare event this happens... she was left alone once in 5 years.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 07 Oct 2005 15:25 GMT >I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days. That time, but what if something had happened? There would be nobody to know and help your cat. I have a neighbor who decided to leave his two cats for seven days with a big bowl of food and one litterbox. He called me at about 1 in the morning after several days had passed. He'd been in a car accident and totaled his car and wasn't able to get home. Of course I went right over to his house to check the cats and the food was already gone, the water was almost gone and the litterbox was nasty. Lucky for him I had access to a key and lucky for the cats they didn't have to spend several days without food and water and having to wade through a gross litterbox. I read him the riot act when he got back and he admitted what he had done was stupid and irresponsible. Now any time he goes out of town I come over twice a day and take care of the cats and everyone is happy.
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Joe Canuck - 07 Oct 2005 18:19 GMT >>I have successfully left mine alone for 3 days. > > That time, but what if something had happened? That was the first time in 5 years. Nothing did happen.
Kitkat - 08 Oct 2005 01:23 GMT > I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and > water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic > feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there? We JUST got an automatic feeder. It is called "PetMate" and it has compartments for 5 feedings, a timer, and a space underneat the feeder for ice packs. We use it because Dudley will wake up around 5am SCREAMING for food. This way, he gets the food and we dont have to wake up! :)
very happy with her feeder, pam
:) Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 03:44 GMT Well, the situation has changed. I may be just going for an overnight visit instead of 3 days unless I just do a fly in on the day of the wedding and flying out same day. I am still considering the cat sitter option but am wonder if it is just overnight whether I should just get a feeder for the cats and a waterer. I saw ones today for $9 that aren't mechanized but they have bowls attached to a jug that you fill with water and food. The food one holds about 5lbs of food and I guess as the cats eat the food drops or slides down refilling the bowl. The other was a waterer that has a jug attached that you fill with water and there is a small hole that I guess keeps filling it with water.
I thought about those with extra bowls of food and water if it is overnight. Question is would I still need a pet sitter for an overnight visit? I was still considering that option.
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>> I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and >> water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pam > :) Joe Canuck - 08 Oct 2005 12:52 GMT > Well, the situation has changed. I may be just going for an overnight visit > instead of 3 days unless I just do a fly in on the day of the wedding and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Question is would I still need a pet sitter for an overnight visit? I was > still considering that option. Don't bother with a pet sitter for only an overnight visit. Hopefully you do have someone you can call should the visit be extended, for some unforseen reason.
You won't need 5 lbs of food for an overnight visit. Put out the amount of food you normally would for 2 days. It will be more problematic if you feed canned, however I suspect you feed dry. In that case, leave enough dry food out for 2 days.
MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 02:04 GMT >I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and >water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic >feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there? I have never used automatic feeders because I think it is important to monitor the amount of intake. I use canned cat food, but it is important even with dry food to be able to observe any change in eating habits. I did attempt an automatic waterer, but Holly quickly turned it into a toy, and I had a small lake surrounding the waterer where she scooped the water out and threw it in all directions.
Please do not even consider leaving your cats alone for more than one day. It's true that many cats have been left alone for several days, with no ill effects. However, it's also true that an emergency can arise and there would be no one to take action. I recently saw for myself how quickly that can happen even to a very healthy and active cat (fortunately, I was home). I noticed Holly limping one morning. There had been no previous signs, and I couldn't see anything wrong -- she is a solid black cat, including the pads, so it it very difficult to see. The vet finally found what looked like a slight cut and prescribed antibiotics and pain med. The next day, Holly was obviously in intense pain. The pad was now badly swollen. This time, the vet used gas to anesthetize her so he could probe the wound. Pus flew from the pad as soon as he began probing, and he discovered an absess. This means that Holly had had a wound for some time but had shown no signs (cats are notorious for hiding pain). However, the injury progressed so much overnight that she would have been in great distress if I had not seen the change and immediately returned to the vet. It is very important to have someone come in to feed and water your cats but also to spend some time with them and observe their actions.
I use a pet sitter every summer when I go on vacation. I contacted several references (and fortunately knew several of them) and had the pet sitter come to my house in advance so she and my cats could become familiar with each othr. She becomes "another me" when I am gone -- she comes in twice a day, changes food and water, cleans the litter boxes, plays with the cats, brings in mail and papers, and even spends some time at the kitchen table having a cup of coffee and watching the birds outside the kitchen window. Incidentally, I later learned that she also checked *me* out at the same time I was checking her references. She is just as careful about the homes she visits and the type of care people give their cats as I am about who I wanted to invite into my home to care for Holly and Duffy.
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Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 04:28 GMT My cats are free eaters.
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> >>I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > MaryL MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 04:38 GMT > My cats are free eaters. Even so, you should watch closely enough so that you could detect any changes in their dietary habits (which could be a medical problem). Moreover, what about the other issue I raised? -- that is, the possibility of a real emergency arising with no one around to catch it in time if the cats are left alone for an extended period of time. Of course, this was based on your first message about leaving for "a few days." I noticed that one of your later messages raised the possibility of going only for an overnight visit, and in still another message you mentioned the possibility of using a pet sitter. I strongly recommend that you use a pet sitter if you go for more than 24 hours.
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Cat Protector - 08 Oct 2005 05:30 GMT Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours. I think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the next day. Would I still need a cat sitter or will feeders be ok? I saw some at Walmart that were around $9. They aren't auto feeders. You fill a small jug with the food (up to 5lbs of dry) and I guess it slides down into the dish as the cats eat from the bowl. If I use this plan for them, I'll be laying out extra food for them plus a water dispenser (not electric or anything) that holds 1 gallon of water and has a small hole at the bottom. They also will have two extra dishes filled with water as well. Would all this be enough for a safe overnight visit?
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> >> My cats are free eaters. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MaryL MaryL - 08 Oct 2005 07:00 GMT > Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours. I > think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the next [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They also will have two extra dishes filled with water as well. Would all > this be enough for a safe overnight visit? If you're only going to be gone for 24 hours, that's more than adequate. I would still suggest that you provide someone with a key and have that person "on call" in case of an emergency (for example, missed or canceled flights).
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5cats - 08 Oct 2005 14:31 GMT > Well I know I'll be using a cat sitter if gone for more than 24 hours. > I think the plan is to fly in the day of the wedding and fly out the > next day. Would I still need a cat sitter or will feeders be ok? I wouldn't get a cat sitter if I was going to be away just one night (assuming the cats are healthy and don't need any special food or meds.)
But, if you think your going to be traveling often in the future, a short trip might be a good opportunity to have a trial run with a sitter so you can have a plan prepared for the future. Just a thought.
Phil P. - 08 Oct 2005 02:53 GMT > I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and > water dispensers for cats? Forget the automatic feeders- they're only programmable for 1, 24-hour period and they could malfunction. If you have a friend, which I doubt, ask them to feed and check in on your cats a few times a day. Otherwise, hire a NAPPS certified, bonded and insured pet sitter: http://www.petsitters.org/Find/findsitter.cfm
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boshicat - 16 Nov 2005 19:47 GMT I use them every day. Keep them both filled, etc. I have five cats and have gone out of town for two weeks and everyone was fine when I got home. I have the large ones. Of course the litter boxes were overflowing...
>I was wondering if anyone here has ever used those automatic feeders and >water dispensers for cats? I was thinking of getting a couple for my 3 cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >or water. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting automatic >feeders and waterers for my cats. Is there a reliable brand out there?
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