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Neighbor's Cat Annoying Me

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Brandy  Alexandre - 26 Sep 2005 22:32 GMT
Okay, I love cats, we know that.   I've felt a little sorry for Boots
because, even though he appears to want to be outside, he's lonesome.  
If he sees me, he wants to come in.  

I don't remember if I mentioned it, but there was a cat fight right in
front of my living room window and I opened the door and it was Boots.  
He doesn't have claws, but he's a good 25+ pounds and was giving some
poor cat the "what for."  Boots saw me and came up for lovin' but
escaped my grasp when the other cat took off and went chasing after it.    
He's a bully!

Anyway, so now he's absolutely sure where I live and comes and meows at
my door.  He then figured out which patio was mine and was meowing at
*that* door.  And THEN at 6:00 a.m. Saturday, he's meowing at my
bedroom window.  I can tell him to be quiet and go home, but he makes
me feel so bad when I shut the door in his face.

Suggestions?

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Joe Canuck - 26 Sep 2005 23:21 GMT
Brandy  Alexandre wrote:

> Okay, I love cats, we know that.  

We do?

We only know what you are telling us. I suspect those who truly love
cats don't go around proclaiming they do... they just DO.

Actually, your subject line speaks volumes... those who love cats are
never annoyed by them. We tolerate their quirks with a smile and
thoroughly enjoy their company... even at 6 am in the morning.

> I've felt a little sorry for Boots
> because, even though he appears to want to be outside, he's lonesome.  
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> bedroom window.  I can tell him to be quiet and go home, but he makes
> me feel so bad when I shut the door in his face.

Yet, you still shut the door in his face.

> Suggestions?

Yes, stop shutting the door in his face. Easy huh?  :)
Cheryl - 27 Sep 2005 00:57 GMT
> Anyway, so now he's absolutely sure where I live and comes and
> meows at my door.  He then figured out which patio was mine and
> was meowing at *that* door.  And THEN at 6:00 a.m. Saturday,
> he's meowing at my bedroom window.  I can tell him to be quiet
> and go home, but he makes me feel so bad when I shut the door in
> his face.

I had a similar situation a couple of years ago. That was when I
got Bonnie, and had a couple of strays hanging out, too. I think
they were originally attracted to the bird feeder I put out in the
winter.  The two strays and Bonnie definitely didn't have a home,
or if they did, it wasn't a good one. None of them were fixed. The
other cat, I called him Funny Face because of his black/white
markings on his face, I wasn't sure about. I figured he was part of
their little pack. But when I trapped him to get neutered, too, he
turned out to be already neutered. The ordeal of being trapped has
kept him away from my house. It had a happy side effect of keeping
him close to his own home. When I released him that day, he ran
straight for a house down the road behind my house. Clearly, home.
I used to see him cross the busy road in front of my house, but I
never see him do that anymore. I still see him back there close to
his house, so he's doing well.  I don't recommend trapping a cat to
"scare" him into staying close to home, but in this happy accident,
it worked.  I don't have any suggestions for you.  He likes you!

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Brandy  Alexandre - 27 Sep 2005 02:48 GMT
Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> Anyway, so now he's absolutely sure where I live and comes and
>> meows at my door.  He then figured out which patio was mine and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> "scare" him into staying close to home, but in this happy accident,
> it worked.  I don't have any suggestions for you.  He likes you!

I like him just fine, just without the guilt trip and without the early
wake-up calls.  During the week I wouldn't mind, but it was SATURDAY!  
LOL!

My neighbor told me a story about him and his inviting himself in.  She
got a call from someone who asked if she was Botts' mom, and said Boots
was in his house sleeping on his bed.  She asked, "Does it bother
you?"  He said, no...  "Well, put him out when he wakes up."

He's a free spirit, I guess, jeez!

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It's Me - 27 Sep 2005 10:08 GMT
You say Boots "doesn't have claws" but is outside.  Either the people
who keep him are uneducated or simply uncaring. No declawed cat should
be left outside. Their claws are a means of defense and for climbing
(to avoid danger).  I presume you posted a troll message, anyway, since
no cat lover would shut a door in a cats face.  Can you go away?
Brandy  Alexandre - 27 Sep 2005 17:44 GMT
It's Me <awriteny@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> You say Boots "doesn't have claws" but is outside.  Either the
> people who keep him are uneducated or simply uncaring. No declawed
> cat should be left outside. Their claws are a means of defense and
> for climbing (to avoid danger).  I presume you posted a troll
> message, anyway, since no cat lover would shut a door in a cats
> face.  Can you go away?

She said he was like that when he chose her.  Someone else had let him
outside and now he belongs to D.  As for shutting a door in a cat's
face.  It's not like SLAMMING the door in his face, it's patting him
and telling him to go home.  I let him in once and it upset Kami and I
don't know if he has fleas, FIV or anything.  You'd do the same thing.  
It's not worth my cat to spare another cat's feelings.  I just wish I
didn't have to hurt his feelings.

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It's Me - 28 Sep 2005 04:36 GMT
Brandy Alexander writes
(in reference to allowing a declawed cat to roam outside)...

>"She said he was like that when he chose her.  Someone else >had let him outside and now he belongs to D.  As for shutting a >door in a cat's face.  It's not like SLAMMING the door in his >face, it's patting him and telling him to go home.

It doesn't matter who previously had the cat...If D or F of Zee or
anyone else has the DECLAWED CAT NOW, that human being should know
better than to let that declawed cat roam outside.
Brandy  Alexandre - 28 Sep 2005 15:19 GMT
It's Me <awriteny@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Brandy Alexander writes
> (in reference to allowing a declawed cat to roam outside)...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> anyone else has the DECLAWED CAT NOW, that human being should know
> better than to let that declawed cat roam outside.

I agree with you there.  I would never let a declawed cat outside.  Her
reasoning was that someone altered him contrary to his lifestyle.  I
guess because he's so big she thinks no one will pick on him.  

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Joe Canuck - 28 Sep 2005 20:19 GMT
Brandy  Alexandre wrote:

> It's Me <awriteny@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> reasoning was that someone altered him contrary to his lifestyle.  I
> guess because he's so big she thinks no one will pick on him.  

So, does this mean your cat NEVER goes outside?
Charlie Wilkes - 27 Sep 2005 10:10 GMT
>Okay, I love cats, we know that.   I've felt a little sorry for Boots
>because, even though he appears to want to be outside, he's lonesome.  
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Suggestions?

Let him in, as long as he doesn't give Kami a hard time.  He values
your friendship.  

Charlie
Brandy  Alexandre - 27 Sep 2005 17:46 GMT
Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Let him in, as long as he doesn't give Kami a hard time.  He values
> your friendship.  
>
> Charlie

I let him in once, and Kami was not amused.  And, since I saw him
picking on another cat, I'm not sure what he would do if she showed any
agression to him.  He actually got up on my bed and looked like he was
settling in for the night, and growled when I picked him up to put him
out.  That, and reasons I post in another article, is part of the
reason he can't come in again.  

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Brandy  Alexandre - 28 Sep 2005 01:38 GMT
Brandy  Alexandre <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> picked him up to put him out.  That, and reasons I post in another
> article, is part of the reason he can't come in again.  

P.S. I do sit with him for 5 or 10 minutes outside giving him love.  I
don't snub the poor guy after just a pat on the head.

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Joe Canuck - 28 Sep 2005 12:17 GMT
Brandy  Alexandre wrote:

> Brandy  Alexandre <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
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> P.S. I do sit with him for 5 or 10 minutes outside giving him love.  I
> don't snub the poor guy after just a pat on the head.

Oh?

> I can tell him to be quiet and go home, but he makes
> me feel so bad when I shut the door in his face.
KD - 28 Sep 2005 17:56 GMT
>Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>> I can tell him to be quiet and go home, but he makes
>> me feel so bad when I shut the door in his face.

Isn't this woman a declawer?
Joe Canuck - 28 Sep 2005 20:19 GMT
>>Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Isn't this woman a declawer?

Yes. She had her cat, Kami, declawed.
Candace - 29 Sep 2005 07:18 GMT
> > Isn't this woman a declawer?
>
> Yes. She had her cat, Kami, declawed.

I hate to say it, Joe, but you don't post for months, then Brandy posts
and here you are.  Sounds like you wanna hump more than her posts.

Candace
Joe Canuck - 29 Sep 2005 12:09 GMT
>>>Isn't this woman a declawer?
>>
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>
> Candace

I find it rather curious you respond in that manner to the post about
the state of Kami's paws.  <shrug>
Candace - 30 Sep 2005 05:11 GMT
> I find it rather curious you respond in that manner to the post about
> the state of Kami's paws.  <shrug>

It was just an observation...it's true, you do always post after her.
I am certainly against declawing and I feel bad for all declawed
kitties but we have discussed the state of Kami's clawless paws a
bazillion times.  What further purpose does it serve to go over it?

Candace
Joe Canuck - 30 Sep 2005 12:18 GMT
>>I find it rather curious you respond in that manner to the post about
>>the state of Kami's paws.  <shrug>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Candace

It seems to go hand-in-hand with the subject line of this thread...
"Neighbor's Cat Annoying Me".

Whenever there is an annoyance, it seems to usually result in some sort
of action detrimental to the cat in question.

So in this case once again I question the validity and depth of meaning
in Brandy's statement "Okay, I love cats, we know that."

Anyone who truly loves cats would not mutilate them through declawing in
order to purely serve the needs of the human.

It goes to credibility. No need for a huge discussion, as I'm just
adding my opinion. You, and others, may or may not agree... thats
fine... we don't need to become newsgroup enemies because of that.
cybercat - 30 Sep 2005 16:36 GMT
> It goes to credibility. No need for a huge discussion, as I'm just
> adding my opinion. You, and others, may or may not agree... thats
> fine... we don't need to become newsgroup enemies because of that.

The voice of sanity, and I am sure Candace agrees. She does not take
Usenet too terribly seriously, which is where some people make their
big mistake. Big mistake. Discussion groups are for discussion, and
they thrive on differing opinions.

It is all a matter of perspective, really. It is nice to see a level head
in this group.
-L. - 30 Sep 2005 16:40 GMT
> The voice of sanity, and I am sure Candace agrees. She does not take
> Usenet too terribly seriously, which is where some people make their
> big mistake. Big mistake.

Yeah, they do, don't they?  As well all know you do now...

a.shole.

-L.
Brad Wegwrich - 30 Sep 2005 16:43 GMT
On 30 Sep 2005 08:40:57 -0700,  wrote:

>> The voice of sanity, and I am sure Candace agrees. She does not take
>> Usenet too terribly seriously, which is where some people make their
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>
>-L.
You found out the hard way when you get personal. Huh cupcake?

The pics?
Brad Wegwrich - 30 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:36:02 -0400,  wrote:

>> It goes to credibility. No need for a huge discussion, as I'm just
>> adding my opinion. You, and others, may or may not agree... thats
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>It is all a matter of perspective, really. It is nice to see a level head
>in this group.

OK, Now I get it.
SexySoxy - 01 Oct 2005 02:59 GMT
> Anyone who truly loves cats would not mutilate them through declawing in
> order to purely serve the needs of the human.
>
> It goes to credibility. No need for a huge discussion, as I'm just
> adding my opinion. You, and others, may or may not agree... thats
> fine... we don't need to become newsgroup enemies because of that.

No, we don't...and we're not.  I don't hate anyone on usenet.  I hate
enough fuckwads IRL to have much left over.

SS
Brandy  Alexandre - 01 Oct 2005 03:21 GMT
SexySoxy <bobbisox4me@yahoo.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> Anyone who truly loves cats would not mutilate them through
>> declawing in order to purely serve the needs of the human.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> SS

LOL!  Agree with you there.  Rather than get into flamewars I just
plonk the idjits.  As for the fuckwads, one of them totalled my car
Monday yapping on his cell phone and *I* have to deal with a car note
and new car insurance when my long-paid-off car would have gone for
another decade.

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Brandy  Alexandre - 30 Sep 2005 15:16 GMT
Candace <maccandace@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> I find it rather curious you respond in that manner to the post
>> about the state of Kami's paws.  <shrug>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Candace

Thank you Candace.  We just have to agree to disagree on the issue of
Kami.  All that matters is that she's happy, relatively healthy (as
long as I keep up the maintenance), always receives good vet care
immediately at the first sign of trouble, and pretty much allowed to
rule the house and sometimes my life.  :)  Joe is just obsessed with me
and as you noticed, a stalker of my posting.

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Joe Canuck - 30 Sep 2005 20:46 GMT
Brandy  Alexandre wrote:
> Candace <maccandace@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thank you Candace.  We just have to agree to disagree on the issue of
> Kami.  All that matters is that she's happy, relatively healthy (as

Oh yes, I'm absolutely certain the hours and days after the declaw
surgery that Kami was extremely happy. Not!

> long as I keep up the maintenance), always receives good vet care
> immediately at the first sign of trouble, and pretty much allowed to
> rule the house and sometimes my life.  :)  Joe is just obsessed with me
> and as you noticed, a stalker of my posting.

Anyone viewing your posts can clearly see that you seek out attention.

Thus being the attention seeker that you are... you'd like to think that
I am obsessed with you.

Get over it... I'm not.  :)

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Brad Wegwrich - 30 Sep 2005 15:46 GMT
On 29 Sep 2005 21:11:38 -0700,  wrote:

>> I find it rather curious you respond in that manner to the post about
>> the state of Kami's paws.  <shrug>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Candace

Morning love.
Brandy  Alexandre - 29 Sep 2005 20:43 GMT
Candace <maccandace@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> > Isn't this woman a declawer?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Candace

:::snerk:::  :::nodding:::

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Barb - 27 Sep 2005 14:41 GMT
No neighbor is perfect.  Don't you know that?  You love cats, you're not
allergic, so sit back and enjoy the company.  Getting up early is good for
you.  Don't you feel better when you get up early rather than sleep 'til
noon?

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Barb
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I did it right the first time.
Brandy  Alexandre - 27 Sep 2005 17:47 GMT
Barb <bguzzino@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> No neighbor is perfect.  Don't you know that?  You love cats,
> you're not allergic, so sit back and enjoy the company.  Getting
> up early is good for you.  Don't you feel better when you get up
> early rather than sleep 'til noon?

Heh.  I only sleep until 9:30 on weekends.  ;)  Okay, maybe 10:00...

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