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alienbill - 04 Mar 2004 09:21 GMT
The latest addition to my family of wife, 3 cats and a puppy is a male
kitten about 14wks old. He's a mixed breed but looks very much like the
Aurkish Angora- longhaired, white, blue-eyed, hearing. I don't know much
about his history except that he was abused by his previous owners. He
came to us limping and emaciated, but with very good temperament. After
only a week "Yeti" seems to be doing much better and is settling in as a
happy member of the family and I have become much attached to him.

Now for the problem- his one very annoying habit is that he tries to
suckle whenever hungry or seeking attention. I am used to the kneading
thing with the front paws, but along with this our guy will try to
suckle fingers, toes, ears, or just about any area of exposed skin
whenever handled. He also drinks from the water bowl in this same loud
manner.

I had never seen this behavior before. A co-worker tells me she had a
cat which did this and never stopped as it grew older. I assume maybe he
was weaned too early, or has some insecurity problem due to his short
past, but how does one go about correcting this? Thanks for any advice.

bill

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Karen Chuplis - 04 Mar 2004 13:13 GMT
> The latest addition to my family of wife, 3 cats and a puppy is a male
> kitten about 14wks old. He's a mixed breed but looks very much like the
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> alienbill@intercorp.com

I bet he'll grow out of it. He's still a baby.

Karen
kaeli - 04 Mar 2004 13:58 GMT
> The latest addition to my family of wife, 3 cats and a puppy is a male
> kitten about 14wks old. He's a mixed breed but looks very much like the
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> only a week "Yeti" seems to be doing much better and is settling in as a
> happy member of the family and I have become much attached to him.

Congrats on the new addition!
(Yeti - that's so cute)

> Now for the problem- his one very annoying habit is that he tries to
> suckle whenever hungry or seeking attention. I am used to the kneading
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> was weaned too early, or has some insecurity problem due to his short
> past, but how does one go about correcting this? Thanks for any advice.

Some cats grow out of this. My friend's cat stopped by the time she was
a year old. Some cats don't grow out of it, and it becomes almost an OCD
type of behaviour. Medication can help, as can behaviour modification.
I'd wait to see if he grows out of it before giving him any meds or
seeing the vet about it. He may just need time to learn that he's secure
and loved now.

Got pics?  :)

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m. L. Briggs - 04 Mar 2004 19:55 GMT
>The latest addition to my family of wife, 3 cats and a puppy is a male
>kitten about 14wks old. He's a mixed breed but looks very much like the
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>alienbill@intercorp.com

The thought that came to me is :  does he have the persian-type nose?
Any breathing problem?  You said he had been abused, so he obviously
needs llots of comforting and reassurance.  Just pick him up often and
pet him whenever you can.  He will probably outgrow it.  Best of luck.
Sharon Talbert - 04 Mar 2004 21:26 GMT
I don't hold much hope that your sweet Yeti will ever stop the
thumb-sucking.  Just consider it as part of his charm.

I am not one of those who believe that over-early weaning contributes to
this behavior.  In years of fostering cats from the streets and alleys,
I've seen as many (if not more) thumbsuckers develop from loving families,
where the momcat allowed prolonged suckling long after she dried up and
was spayed.

You might try diverting some of that behavior to a towel or other prop
when you hold Yeti, to give him the outlet he seems to need and save a
soaking.  He may eventually "wean," but I wouldn't count on it,
poor guy.

Sharon Talbert
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Mary - 04 Mar 2004 23:12 GMT
> I don't hold much hope that your sweet Yeti will ever stop the
> thumb-sucking.  Just consider it as part of his charm.

I think it is totally adorable.
Laura R. - 06 Mar 2004 17:14 GMT
circa Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:26:52 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Sharon Talbert (stalbert@u.washington.edu) said,
> I am not one of those who believe that over-early weaning contributes to
> this behavior.  In years of fostering cats from the streets and alleys,
> I've seen as many (if not more) thumbsuckers develop from loving families,
> where the momcat allowed prolonged suckling long after she dried up and
> was spayed.

Ditto. Camille is an obsessive licker, and her stray/feral mamacat
who chose my household as her home allowed Camille to suckle until
Camille was bigger than mamacat was.

Laura
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IBen Getiner - 06 Mar 2004 04:22 GMT
> The latest addition to my family of wife, 3 cats and a puppy is a male
> kitten about 14wks old. He's a mixed breed but looks very much like the
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Stop this primitive id-like behavior IMMEDIATELY, bill. Ours is three
years old and still tries to 'get some neck' on the wife almost every
day. Not when he thinks I'm watching, of course. He thinks he's smart,
he does. But he'z not smarter than me. It's just another form of
masturbation, I maintain. All the softies around here will tell you to
just let them have at it. But men like you and I understand that 'the
child' must eventually be separated from the nipple of 'its mother'. I
think you will agree.
Don't let this go on. Nip it at the bud. Don't be a feminized ninny
like all the other guyz who post in here. That's my advice. If you
wear the ballz in the faimily like I do, you'll take it.

                            IBen Getiner
Laura R. - 06 Mar 2004 17:31 GMT
circa 5 Mar 2004 20:22:01 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, IBen
Getiner (lappcatt@aol.com) said,
> Stop this primitive id-like behavior IMMEDIATELY, bill. Ours is three
> years old and still tries to 'get some neck' on the wife almost every
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>                              IBen Getiner

You are such a stupid man. Off to the bozo bin for you and your
pointless, useless, trolling "advice".

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Diane L. Schirf - 06 Mar 2004 18:31 GMT
> You are such a stupid man.

I think you're giving him way too much credit about his age. I think
he's stuck between 13 and 14.

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SongSylvan - 06 Mar 2004 19:27 GMT
>I think you're giving him way too much credit about his age. I think
>he's stuck between 13 and 14.

You owe me a new keyboard.  *grin*

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SongSylvan - 06 Mar 2004 17:11 GMT
>I had never seen this behavior before. A co-worker tells me she had a
>cat which did this and never stopped as it grew older. I assume maybe he
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>alienbill@intercorp.com

Paintball (year and a half old) still does this, and hadn't been weaned early,
and was well bonded with her mama and sisters.  (I knew the mama cat's owners.)

My two cents is that it's a cat's way of bonding with the person it sees as
it's new 'mama'.  Paintball did it a *lot* when she was a baby and just joined
us, but she does it less and less now--usually only if I've been gone an
unusually long time or if Chase is determined to ignore her.  She just wants
comfort.

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Laura R. - 06 Mar 2004 17:12 GMT
circa Thu, 4 Mar 2004 03:21:48 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
alienbill (alienbill@intercorp.com) said,
> Now for the problem- his one very annoying habit is that he tries to
> suckle whenever hungry or seeking attention. I am used to the kneading
> thing with the front paws, but along with this our guy will try to
> suckle fingers, toes, ears, or just about any area of exposed skin
> whenever handled. He also drinks from the water bowl in this same loud
> manner.

Jacob used to get a suction grip on my earlobe and suck. He didn't
really stop doing it until he was about ten years old, and he still
nuzzles at my neck, ear, lip, chin, whatever, although he can't seem
to get the suction-cup hold anymore.

> I had never seen this behavior before. A co-worker tells me she had a
> cat which did this and never stopped as it grew older. I assume maybe he
> was weaned too early, or has some insecurity problem due to his short
> past, but how does one go about correcting this? Thanks for any advice.

Honestly, since it's a security and affection thing, I'd say that
you're in for an easier haul if you learn to live with it. :-)

Laura
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