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Sherry - 05 Mar 2004 02:18 GMT
OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
go ahead and do it because her behavior is just so pitiful and she's hell-bent
to get outdoors. Here are the questions:
1) Do female cats spray?
2) Do female cats spray *because* they are in heat, and will it stop after
she's spayed?

I don't mean urinating. I mean sprayiing, on a CD rack, on the wall, etc. I
suppose it could be one of the boys doing it *because* of her, but I've never,
ever had them spray before.

I have limited experience with girl cats, and zero with whole girl cats in
heat. More questions:
1) How many Feliway diffusers should I get for a 2500 s.f. house?
3) Where should I put them?
*Any* and all advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks all,
Sherry
Karen Chuplis - 05 Mar 2004 02:48 GMT
> OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
> had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
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> 2) Do female cats spray *because* they are in heat, and will it stop after
> she's spayed?

I've heard that, yes, this is true and spaying will help.

> I don't mean urinating. I mean sprayiing, on a CD rack, on the wall, etc. I
> suppose it could be one of the boys doing it *because* of her, but I've never,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> heat. More questions:
> 1) How many Feliway diffusers should I get for a 2500 s.f. house?

I think one diffuser covers 600 sq.ft. (I believe it says on the package).
> 3) Where should I put them?

Depends on the set up I think. I have two in one very LARGE room (since my
apt. is essentially a living room, dining room and kitchen and then a
bedroom is separate.) I'm sure that spaying will make a difference.

Karen
> *Any* and all advice/suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks all,
> Sherry
Orchid - 05 Mar 2004 02:56 GMT
>OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
>had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
>go ahead and do it because her behavior is just so pitiful and she's hell-bent
>to get outdoors. Here are the questions:
>1) Do female cats spray?

    Yes.  :)

>2) Do female cats spray *because* they are in heat, and will it stop after
>she's spayed?

    Yes, and probably.  Females do it both to mark territory and
to advertise their in heat status to males.  The vast majority of
spraying females stop with spaying.

>I don't mean urinating. I mean sprayiing, on a CD rack, on the wall, etc. I
>suppose it could be one of the boys doing it *because* of her, but I've never,
>ever had them spray before.

    No, it's almost definitely her.

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Cheryl - 05 Mar 2004 03:14 GMT
> OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on
> Wed. I had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,
> but am going to go ahead and do it because her behavior is just so
> pitiful and she's hell-bent to get outdoors.

Good luck with "the biskit"  (I'm an old Ally McBeal fan so her name
reminds me of that.:))  I think vet med has improved and while they don't
want to do things like spaying while a little under the weather, heck, if
they could operate on Shadow nearly two years ago multiple times in a
short while when he was clearly ill, they certainly can monitor how it is
going.

She'll be ok Sherry.   :)
Sherry - 05 Mar 2004 05:56 GMT
>Good luck with "the biskit"  (I'm an old Ally McBeal fan so her name
>reminds me of that.:))  I think vet med has improved and while they don't
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>
>She'll be ok Sherry.   :)

Oh, gawd, Cheryl. I just borrowed a black light. My living room lit up like
Chinatown. I want to move.

Sherry
MaryL - 05 Mar 2004 11:34 GMT
> >Good luck with "the biskit"  (I'm an old Ally McBeal fan so her name
> >reminds me of that.:))  I think vet med has improved and while they don't
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>
> Sherry

Sherry, it may not be as bad as that.  Black light picks up signs of
spraying, but it also picks up lots of other residue -- sort of a "false
positive."

MaryL
Diane L. Schirf - 05 Mar 2004 12:17 GMT
> Oh, gawd, Cheryl. I just borrowed a black light. My living room lit up like
> Chinatown. I want to move.

I have a big splotch right in the middle of the living room under the
black light. Of course, it's from when I spilled coffee there.

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Laura R. - 06 Mar 2004 16:39 GMT
circa 05 Mar 2004 05:56:58 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> Oh, gawd, Cheryl. I just borrowed a black light. My living room lit up like
> Chinatown. I want to move.

I wouldn't worry overmuch. There is a positive cornucopia of things
that glow under black light (including laundry detergent). :-)

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Cathy Friedmann - 05 Mar 2004 03:15 GMT
> OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
> had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 2) Do female cats spray *because* they are in heat, and will it stop after
> she's spayed?

Not sure if this will answer you question, exactly, but is closely related I
think:

My first cat was definitely 'marking' for a couple of months or so before I
had her spayed.  This was in the early 70's, she was my first cat, & she was
already 1 year old - I didn't know then that she really should've been
spayed several months earlier.  I also didn't realize that the marking was
marking!  It was small amounts of urine each time - & appeared to be quite
concentrated.  The behavior never returned after her spay op.

Cathy

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> I don't mean urinating. I mean sprayiing, on a CD rack, on the wall, etc. I
> suppose it could be one of the boys doing it *because* of her, but I've never,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanks all,
> Sherry
Meghan Noecker - 05 Mar 2004 08:12 GMT
>OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
>had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>2) Do female cats spray *because* they are in heat, and will it stop after
>she's spayed?

Some females do. We have had several girls over the years, and only
one ever did. It was territorial for her, but she mellowed after being
spayed and quit doing it.

Here's an odd question about spraying. Anybody have a male who aims
and does the tail wiggle like he's spraying, but nothing ever comes
out? My sister's cat has been doing this for 11 years. I watch him
aim, wiggle, and walk away. I grab a kleenex and wipe the surface, and
it is dry. Not a single drop. I am greatful, but I have never seen
such a thing.

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MaryL - 05 Mar 2004 10:57 GMT
> Here's an odd question about spraying. Anybody have a male who aims
> and does the tail wiggle like he's spraying, but nothing ever comes
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Equine and Pet Photography
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That is common, but it isn't spraying.  It is sometimes called "the happy
shake.  The cat is probably happy or excited, but it's nothing to worry
about in this instance.

MaryL
Laura R. - 06 Mar 2004 16:41 GMT
circa 5 Mar 2004 08:12:12 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan
Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said,
> Here's an odd question about spraying. Anybody have a male who aims
> and does the tail wiggle like he's spraying, but nothing ever comes
> out? My sister's cat has been doing this for 11 years. I watch him
> aim, wiggle, and walk away. I grab a kleenex and wipe the surface, and
> it is dry. Not a single drop. I am greatful, but I have never seen
> such a thing.

That's "happy tail" or "love-me butt". :-) I've only had one cat who
ever accidentally let something "out" when he did that, and it only
happened one time. It was GROSS, and I avoided being near his wiggly
butt whenever he had it going from that point on, but usually it's
just an expression of happy "ownership" of his environment.

Laura
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equalizer - 06 Mar 2004 20:31 GMT
>circa 5 Mar 2004 08:12:12 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan
>Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said,
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>
>Laura

My Daisy does that, and only for me. I call her my little quiver-tail.
Laura R. - 07 Mar 2004 00:09 GMT
circa Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:31:59 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
equalizer <> (equalizer <>) said,
> >butt whenever he had it going from that point on, but usually it's
> >just an expression of happy "ownership" of his environment.
> >
> >Laura
>
> My Daisy does that, and only for me. I call her my little quiver-tail.

That's 'cause Daisy owns you. :-)

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MacCandace - 06 Mar 2004 19:41 GMT
<< Here's an odd question about spraying. Anybody have a male who aims
and does the tail wiggle like he's spraying, but nothing ever comes
out?  >>

Yup, my one of my boys and my girl cat both do this.  The girl actually does it
quite often.

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MaryL - 05 Mar 2004 11:09 GMT
> OK, re: the new rescue, Biskit. She has an appointment to be spayed on Wed. I
> had put it off because she is in heat, and still quite thin,  but am going to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thanks all,
> Sherry

Yes, female cats sometimes spray.  I think there's a good possibility that
it will end after Biskit is spayed.  I don't know if this is related to
being in heat, but it is related to being intact.

The instructions on the box for one of my Feliway diffusers says that
coverage is 500-650 sq. ft.  However, I doubt that you would really need
coverage for *all* square footage in your home.  My house is a little less
than 2300 sq. ft., and I used 3 Feliway diffusers when I adopted Duffy and
went through the introduction process with Holly.  I placed the 3 diffusers
in the cats' "most used" areas.  In my case, this meant that I placed one in
the living room, one in Duffy's room, and one in the hallway (in an outlet
close to Duffy's room).  When I left for a short vacation last summer and
had a pet sitter, I again used 3 diffusers "just in case."  This time, I did
not place one in "Duffy's room" because that had reverted to being a guest
bedroom.  I placed that one in the computer room that also houses the cat
tree because both cats spend a lot of time there.  There was one other
occasion when the two seemed a little nervous, so I got the diffusers out
again for a few days.  This has worked very well for me.

HTH and *good luck*!
MaryL

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