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DCB - 01 Mar 2004 16:23 GMT
Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
tablet size, to mash up in his food. However, he won't eat his food
with it in there, doesn't like the taste. Remidyl (sp?) is not
available for cats or I would try it (it has helped my in-laws' dog
tremendously). He is on a temporary course of prednisone for his
inflammatory bowel problems but it doesn't seem to help his arthritis.
Are there any other forms of glucosamine that I could try, smaller
tablets maybe that I could mash up in his food? If you have a brand
you could recommend or any other solutions, please let me know. I
don't know how much pain he is in, if it warrants putting him out of
his misery (he has the IBD and early kidney disease too, poor thing).
It breaks my heart to watch him walking around so stiff-legged. I wish
Remidyl was made for cats, too.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 01 Mar 2004 17:17 GMT
There is a flavored form of Glucosamine called Cosequin for Cats that
comes in a capsule and is easily mixed with food. Since your cat's
arthritis sounds more advanced Cosequin may not be enough and you might
want to consider finding a vet that does Adequan therapy and consult
with them. I have personally seen several severely arthritic cats
receive dramatic benefits fom this therapy. It is a little expensive in
the beginnng as the therapy starts out as several injections close
together, but they are eventually spaced further apart and you may
eventually only need  to do them once every six weeks or longer.
You can read a litle bit about Adequan here:
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_degenerative_arthritis.html

Megan

                                   
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Wendy - 01 Mar 2004 17:52 GMT
Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
tablet size, to mash up in his food. However, he won't eat his food
with it in there, doesn't like the taste. Remidyl (sp?) is not
available for cats or I would try it (it has helped my in-laws' dog
tremendously). He is on a temporary course of prednisone for his
inflammatory bowel problems but it doesn't seem to help his arthritis.
Are there any other forms of glucosamine that I could try, smaller
tablets maybe that I could mash up in his food? If you have a brand
you could recommend or any other solutions, please let me know. I
don't know how much pain he is in, if it warrants putting him out of
his misery (he has the IBD and early kidney disease too, poor thing).
It breaks my heart to watch him walking around so stiff-legged. I wish
Remidyl was made for cats, too.

My 16 yo Tigger also has arthritis. She is on Cosequin, Shark Cartilage and
Arnica Montana. I don't bother opening the Cosequin and sprinkling it on her
food. I just give her the pill. The Shark Cartilage gets mixed with her
food. The Arnica Montana is a liquid that I just squirt in her mouth with a
dropper.

It takes a while before you will start seeing results from the Cosequin. The
Arnica Montana is for pain and should help right away.

Tigger was so bad before Christmas I thought we might be losing her. She was
losing weight, wasn't able to get around and was hardly eating. The
combination she is on isn't any silver bullet but her weight has stabilized,
she's getting around much better and is actually grooming herself again.

If none of this works you could look into acupuncture. I have heard of good
results from that but it is expensive.

W
zuzu22@webtv.net - 01 Mar 2004 18:35 GMT
Wendy, can you please fix how you quote? Your posts are very difficult
to read, half the time you can't tell where the original ends and yours
starts. Maybe someone here with a computer can help you fix your
settings. Thanks.

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Wendy - 01 Mar 2004 22:23 GMT
I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.

W

Wendy, can you please fix how you quote? Your posts are very difficult
to read, half the time you can't tell where the original ends and yours
starts. Maybe someone here with a computer can help you fix your
settings. Thanks.

Megan
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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Wendy - 01 Mar 2004 22:31 GMT
excuse that should be "I'd be more than happy" no me more than happy.

W

I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.

W

<zuzu22@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Wendy, can you please fix how you quote? Your posts are very difficult
to read, half the time you can't tell where the original ends and yours
starts. Maybe someone here with a computer can help you fix your
settings. Thanks.

Megan
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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

jamie - 01 Mar 2004 23:06 GMT
> I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
> proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
> happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.

There's an Outlook patch available called something like "OE Quotefix".
I don't use OE, so I don't know the further details.

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Cathy Friedmann - 01 Mar 2004 23:36 GMT
> I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
> proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
> happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.
>
> W

Hmmmm... you're using OE 6 (as am I), so the quoted section of each of your
posts should automatically be marked, w/ a > at the beginning of each line,
to set it apart from your own words.  There must be something in the
background - the settings - that isn't checked... or something.

Cathy  (aka Ms. Non-Techie <g>)

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> Wendy, can you please fix how you quote? Your posts are very difficult
> to read, half the time you can't tell where the original ends and yours
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>
> - W.H. Murray
Wendy - 01 Mar 2004 23:58 GMT
> > I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
> > proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Cathy  (aka Ms. Non-Techie <g>)

Sorry about that. I got scolded for using that in another NG elsewhere so I
had it turned off. Guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.
It's turned back on.

W
Cathy Friedmann - 02 Mar 2004 00:53 GMT
> > > I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that
> wasn't
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> W

You got scolded for quoting correctly??  That is *odd*, IMO!  Well, at least
you knew how to fix it again. ;-)

Cathy

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Cheryl - 02 Mar 2004 01:05 GMT
>> > Cathy  (aka Ms. Non-Techie <g>)
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> W

I'm glad you got it sorted, and I also can't believe you'd upset people
by quoting correctly.  I was really having a hard time following your
posts too.  I gave it extra effort because your posts are worth reading,
but difficult.  Thanks for fixing it!  :)

> You got scolded for quoting correctly??  That is *odd*, IMO!  Well, at
> least you knew how to fix it again. ;-)
>
> Cathy
Laura R. - 02 Mar 2004 01:52 GMT
circa Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:58:59 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,
> Sorry about that. I got scolded for using that in another NG elsewhere so I
> had it turned off. Guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.
> It's turned back on.

Whoever scolded you elsewhere was a tard. Quoting characters are very
polite.

:-)

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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 02 Mar 2004 03:08 GMT
> Whoever scolded you elsewhere was a tard. Quoting characters are very
> polite.

I know it's not politically correct, but I love the word 'tard'.  It's the
word, not the meaning that I love--I love the word 'subcontinental', too.

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Laura R. - 07 Mar 2004 16:30 GMT
circa Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:08:22 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Rona Yuthasastrakosol (prasantrin@yahoo.com) said,
> > Whoever scolded you elsewhere was a tard. Quoting characters are very
> > polite.
>
> I know it's not politically correct, but I love the word 'tard'.  It's the
> word, not the meaning that I love--I love the word 'subcontinental', too.

<G> In my vernacular, "tard" is slang for a socially inept idiot, not
for one who is legitimately mentally challenged. Therefore, I feel no
guilt about using the word. ;-)

Laura

P.S. "Subcontinental" is a lovely word. I, too, like the way certain
words and phrases sound, regardless of their actual meaning. I think
"ma petit chou" is lovely, but referring to somebody as "my little
cabbage" isn't necessarily a flattering endearment. :-)
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Cathy Friedmann - 07 Mar 2004 16:55 GMT
> circa Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:08:22 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Rona Yuthasastrakosol (prasantrin@yahoo.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> for one who is legitimately mentally challenged. Therefore, I feel no
> guilt about using the word. ;-)

Oh.  Good; I didn't realize that.

> P.S. "Subcontinental" is a lovely word. I, too, like the way certain
> words and phrases sound, regardless of their actual meaning.

You took the words right out of my mouth - or the keys from under my hands -
whatever.  Definitely true; and then there are some that sound crummy.  And,
when learning another language, there are certain words that automatically
sound right to me: "fen?tre" & "papillon" being two of them, IMO.

> I think
> "ma petit chou" is lovely, but referring to somebody as "my little
> cabbage" isn't necessarily a flattering endearment. :-)

Something tangential to this just came up on another ng, offered by someone
who's been living in France for many years: "mon chaton".   Along the lines
of "ma petit chou", but "un chaton" is a kitten. (neutral gender with "le"
or "mon"; I asked)

Otoh, while the French have "my little cabbage", this side of the Atlantic
does have "pumpkin"...

Cathy

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Laura R. - 07 Mar 2004 17:54 GMT
circa Sun, 7 Mar 2004 11:55:56 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,

> > circa Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:08:22 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> > Rona Yuthasastrakosol (prasantrin@yahoo.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Oh.  Good; I didn't realize that.

I should probably put a disclaimer out on the occasions when I use
that word. I would no more think of using that word to describe the
mentally challenged than to use the "n word", well, at all.
Purposeful idiocy is a far cry from challenged intellect. The
deliberately stupid are capable of malice, while in my experience,
those who are mentally challenged are usually among the kindest,
sweetest people on this earth. [Malice is not equivalent to anger,
IMO- malice requires intent, while anger is simply a feeling.]

A gross generalization, no doubt, but I think that we are all given
gifts and burdens, and that a gentle soul is a gift often given to
those who carry the societal stigma of having been born with
different intellectual capabilities.

This probably smacks of "I'm not racist; I have black friends"
clich?, but I truly believe the above. I base my judgements on how
people *behave*, not on how they were made.

I just hit dictionary.com to retrieve the definition of "[re]tard" as
I intended it; I swear I didn't take my definition verbatim from
there when I typed it above:

re?tard2    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (rt?rd)
n. Offensive Slang
<snipped definition that I do not use this word to reference>
A person considered to be foolish or socially inept.

> > P.S. "Subcontinental" is a lovely word. I, too, like the way certain
> > words and phrases sound, regardless of their actual meaning.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> when learning another language, there are certain words that automatically
> sound right to me: "fen?tre" & "papillon" being two of them, IMO.

"Papillon" has such a lovely flow to it, doesn't it? It's a pretty
word.

> > I think
> > "ma petit chou" is lovely, but referring to somebody as "my little
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Otoh, while the French have "my little cabbage", this side of the Atlantic
> does have "pumpkin"...

Heh. I call my goddaughter "my little pumpkin pie". When she gets old
enough to comprehend that, I think I'll have to come up with
something different. <G>

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mbk@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2004 18:25 GMT

<<Otoh, while the French have "my little cabbage", this side of the
Atlantic does have "pumpkin"...
Heh. I call my goddaughter "my little pumpkin pie". When she gets old
enough to comprehend that, I think I'll have to come up with something
different. <G>
Laura >>

Getting back to cats... :-) I frequently call my Patches "pumpkin" as in
pumpkin patch. However since she developed megacolon 3 1/2 years ago I
am just as likely to call her "Poopsie"!

Michele
Cheryl - 07 Mar 2004 20:04 GMT
> Getting back to cats... :-) I frequently call my Patches "pumpkin" as
> in pumpkin patch. However since she developed megacolon 3 1/2 years
> ago I am just as likely to call her "Poopsie"!

Poor little Poopsie Pumpkin Patch.  :(  I had a cat with megacolon and
it is so hard on them. It sounds like you got Patches under control, 3
1/2 years, wow!

Someone sent me this link but at the time he didn't know I'd actually
gone through this with Marley almost word-for-word so it made me sad.
But it is well written and is sorta funny.
http://www.catenema.com/cat1.html
mbk@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2004 21:10 GMT
Cheryl,
Thank you for sharing that site.  

However I would never try that on Patches. She is impossible to pill so
I can't imagine trying that at home. There are many things I have
learned to to for my cats but that is one procedure I gladly leave to
the professionals.  

If you ever come across another megacolon cat you might want to try B12
(methylcobalamin form) and/or EsterC form of vit. C. Someone on the
feline megacolon newsgroup came across some research that suggested B12
as a way to deal with severe constipation last summer.

Patches had been doing very well until last spring. We were back and
forth to the vets. Then I discovered the megacolon group. Now I give her
B12 everyday and Vit. C as needed. Those vitamins have really made a
difference. Just something to keep in the back of your mind if ever you
should need it.

Michele
 
<< :( I had a cat with megacolon and it is so hard on them. It sounds
like you got Patches under control, 3 1/2 years, wow!
Someone sent me this link but at the time he didn't know I'd actually
gone through this with Marley almost word-for-word so it made me sad.
But it is well written and is sorta funny.
http://www.catenema.com/cat1.html
Cheryl - 07 Mar 2004 21:45 GMT
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> Cheryl,
> Thank you for sharing that site.  
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> learned to to for my cats but that is one procedure I gladly leave to
> the professionals.  

lol I never tried the ememas at home, though people kept telling me I
should since I had him to the vet so often "to be cleaned out".  The
worse was one time I had to take him late in the day and didn't want to
leave him overnight so we both sat in the bathroom while his system
cleared out.  It was pretty gross but I didn't want to leave him alone in
there.

I wish I'd known about Usenet cat groups back then. One of my first posts
to cat groups was that the vet recommended exploratory and referred us to
a surgeon who explained that if part of his colon had to be removed, his
colon being shorter could result in permanent diarrhea and that it could
turn out to be worse. Prognosis wasn't good, and with him so miserable
and becoming scarred internally in his anus, we decided it was time. He
was horrible to pill, also, and I'd find pills I thought went down him
laying around the house. Lactulose was a nightmare to try to get in him a
couple times a day.

Yahoo groups and groups like this one are lifesavers to many cats and
their people looking for alternatives, suggestions and just plain old
support and kind words.  :)
m. L. Briggs - 07 Mar 2004 22:34 GMT
>mbk@webtv.net dumped this in  news:13012-404B8FCB-200@storefull-
>3256.bay.webtv.net on 07 Mar 2004:
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>their people looking for alternatives, suggestions and just plain old
>support and kind words.  :)

You are so right.  About a month before Princess (RB) passed, she was
unable to go and spent many minutes trying repeatedly.  I finally took
her to the Emergency Hospital and asked for an enema.  She felt better
after that for a while.  It also reminded me of way back when I tried
to give my red cocker spaniel an enema.  He would allow me to look and
apply vaseline as much as I wanted, but  how he rebeled when I tried
to insert the nozzle -- another trip to  TED.
m. L. Briggs - 07 Mar 2004 22:28 GMT
>> Getting back to cats... :-) I frequently call my Patches "pumpkin" as
>> in pumpkin patch. However since she developed megacolon 3 1/2 years
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>But it is well written and is sorta funny.
>http://www.catenema.com/cat1.html

It was great fun to read this -- thanks for sending it.   MLB
Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 02 Mar 2004 00:05 GMT
> I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
> proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
> happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.
>
> W

Under Options, click on Tools, then Send.  Under News (which should have
"Plain Text" checked), click on "Plain Text Settings" .  Make sure "Indent
the Original Text With" is checked off, then choose the option with which
you want to mark original text(i.e. text you are quoting).  The choices are
">", "|" or ":".  I tend to find > easier to read when reading others'
posts, which is why I use it.

rona

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Laura R. - 02 Mar 2004 01:51 GMT
circa Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:23:50 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,

> I'll put this at the top so you can see it although I thought that wasn't
> proper. If you could point me to some guidelines on posting I'd me more than
> happy to comply with your request. Sorry if I've been doing it wrong.

No, posting at the bottom, as you've been doing, is correct. The
problem is, your newsreader isn't inserting characters to indicate
which text is quoted (from the post to which you're responding) and
which is yours. Check your Options menu; IIRC there's something in
there to allow you to specify quoting characters.

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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 02 Mar 2004 00:08 GMT
> If none of this works you could look into acupuncture. I have heard of good
> results from that but it is expensive.
>
> W

I was going to suggest acupuncture, too!  There is only one holistic vet in
my city that does acupuncture, so not knowing where the OP lives, I can't
suggest a specific clinic.  It's not all that easy to find holistic vets,
though, especially in smaller areas.  However, acupuncture has done wonders
for me so I would not hesitate having my cat undergo acupuncture.

rona

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PawsForThought - 02 Mar 2004 01:59 GMT
>From: "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" prasantrin@yahoo.com

>> If none of this works you could look into acupuncture. I have heard of
>good
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>
>rona

If you're in the U.S., there is a state by state listing of holistic vets at
www.altvetmed.com.  

Lauren
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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 02 Mar 2004 03:12 GMT
> If you're in the U.S., there is a state by state listing of holistic vets at
> www.altvetmed.com.

What a great site!  Too bad I'm not in the US but I'm sure there must be a
similar resource for Canada.  Off to check it out!

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Jeannie - 02 Mar 2004 09:37 GMT
> My 16 yo Tigger also has arthritis. She is on Cosequin, Shark Cartilage and
> Arnica Montana.

Please don't use shark cartilage.  There is absolutely no evidence that it
helps at all in either animals or people and the growing use of this
supplement is contributing to the decrease in world wide shark populations.
See the World Wildlife Funds website for more details (wwf.org.uk)

Jeannie
Wendy - 02 Mar 2004 12:32 GMT
> > My 16 yo Tigger also has arthritis. She is on Cosequin, Shark Cartilage
> and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jeannie

I'll have to mention that to the vet who gave it to me.
Jeannie - 02 Mar 2004 13:47 GMT
> > > My 16 yo Tigger also has arthritis. She is on Cosequin, Shark Cartilage
> > and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >
> I'll have to mention that to the vet who gave it to me.

It is disgusting that a so called professional would prescribe shark
cartilidge, firstly due to the extremely dubious evidence supporting its
effectiveness and, secondly, and perhaps more importantly, on moral and
ethical grounds.

Jeannie

Just a few articles I got from Google, if your interested:-

http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/p_quack.htm

http://www.nautilusproductions.com/sandtigersharks/scam
Karen - 01 Mar 2004 20:21 GMT
There is a shot called adequin (sp?) that is reported to do well. There is
another glucosimine supplement called Cosequin that you open and sprinkle on
the food that is chicken and tuna flavored. My cat really likes it. Those
are some options to check out. Hope you find a resolution.

Karen

> Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
> meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> It breaks my heart to watch him walking around so stiff-legged. I wish
> Remidyl was made for cats, too.
jamie - 01 Mar 2004 23:04 GMT
> Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
> meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
> tablet size, to mash up in his food. However, he won't eat his food
> with it in there, doesn't like the taste. Remidyl (sp?) is not
> available for cats or I would try it (it has helped my in-laws' dog
> tremendously). He is on a temporary course of prednisone for his

Although the manufacturer doesn't approve it for cats, some vets are
prescribing Rimadyl.  My 16-year-old Maine coon is doing very well on one
25mg Rimadyl tablet every 6 or 7 days (he's a 15 pound cat.  A small cat
might do fine on half a tablet).  Before the Rimadyl, he was starting
to walk so badly, lurching like a zombie cat, I was afraid that I'd
have to think about putting him down.  On the Rimadyl, he's downright
frisky and behaves like a middle-aged cat instead of an elderly one.

I think the largest concern is that it takes a lot longer to clear a
cat's system (3 or 4 days) than a dog's, but as he gets six or seven
days relief from one pill, it's a miracle for him.   And it's not too
expensive, even marked up at my vet rather than ordering from the net,
it's only $1 a pill.  They are also a pretty small, so it's not hard to
get him to swallow it.

He also has a tendency to have IBS flare-ups once or twice a year,
and the Rimadyl has not bothered him in that way at all.  I was worried
about that at first.

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mbk@webtv.net - 01 Mar 2004 23:33 GMT
I have two suggestions.

1.There is a product called Pill Pockets, (pillpockets.com). They are
very moist
and apparently very tasty. One of my cats gets  2 B12 pills 2X's a day.
I split them in half and place them in the center of the pill pockets.
Patches, who is impossible to pill, inhales her "treats".

2. There is a product called "Sea Flex" for feline flexibility
(www.seacucumber.com). Five morsels contain 270mg sea chondroitin and 70
mg of glucosamine. My holistic vet recommended this product for one of
my other cats who is not quite as agile as he used to be.
blkcatgal - 01 Mar 2004 23:53 GMT
Try Cosequin.  It is a capsule that you can open and sprinkle the contents
onto your cats' food.

Sue

> Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
> meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
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> It breaks my heart to watch him walking around so stiff-legged. I wish
> Remidyl was made for cats, too.
Meghan Noecker - 02 Mar 2004 08:36 GMT
>Hi. My 14-year-old cat has arthritis in his lumbar spine and a
>meniscal knee tear or chip. The vet gave me some glucosamine, a large
>tablet size, to mash up in his food.

I can recommend two kinds.

Hartz Joint Maintencance - it comes in a bottle. The tablets are
chewable and they are tuna flavored. If Maynard doesn't eat it right
away, I lick my finger and wipe it on the pill. It seems to smell more
enticing when it is wet. He usally scarfs them right up. One of two a
day. Sold in the pet stores as well as some grocery stores. 60 tablets
for $10 or $12.

Kittyvite senior vitamin supplement - kind of like tender vittles,
tuna flavor, up to 4 a day. Comes in a reasealble pouch. $5 for 3oz at
the pet store. More spendy, but Maynard chows them down. I just
started these a couple weeks ago. It says it is 8 vitamins with
glucosamine and taurine being the most prominent. It states that it is
intended to "maintain a healthy and active lifestyle". I;m not sure,
but Maynard does seem more active since I started it. Even caught him
running after and swatting at my nephew's remote control car.

My cat prefers the semi soft treats. I will definitely be buying them
again.

I wish
>Remidyl was made for cats, too.

It works well for some dogs, but has also caused deaths in others. My
mom used it well with her dog, but I wouldn't try it myself.
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DCB - 02 Mar 2004 16:12 GMT
Thank you everyone for your advice. Is Cosequin something I can buy in
a petstore like Petsmart or do I need to get it through my vet?
Karen - 02 Mar 2004 16:59 GMT
You can buy it online.

Karen

> Thank you everyone for your advice. Is Cosequin something I can buy in
> a petstore like Petsmart or do I need to get it through my vet?
Laura R. - 07 Mar 2004 16:32 GMT
circa 2 Mar 2004 08:36:06 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan
Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said,
> Hartz Joint Maintencance - it comes in a bottle. The tablets are
> chewable and they are tuna flavored. If Maynard doesn't eat it right
> away, I lick my finger and wipe it on the pill. It seems to smell more
> enticing when it is wet. He usally scarfs them right up. One of two a
> day. Sold in the pet stores as well as some grocery stores. 60 tablets
> for $10 or $12.

I give the beasties this, but I grind it up in the food processor
until it's powder, and then I mix it into their food. They love it.

Laura
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