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Michael B Allen - 24 Feb 2004 18:21 GMT
At one time our cat (Mozart) had a little problem with holding down
ordinary food so the vet sold us Hills Prescription Diet Feline W/D
and we've been buying it ever since (several years). Do you think it's
necessary to keep buying this food? Is there any harm in continuing to
give this food to our cat? Can someone recommend a suitable alternative?

Thanks,
Mike
fan - 24 Feb 2004 20:27 GMT
>At one time our cat (Mozart) had a little problem with holding down
>ordinary food so the vet sold us Hills Prescription Diet Feline W/D
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Thanks,
>Mike

You could try gradually changing to a premium quality cat food. You
could also feed both, side by side. Unless there is another reason for
giving W/D, aside from "holding it down", it shouldn't be necessary to
continue it, in my personal opinion. IF the problem was hairballs,
there are premium cat foods with additives already in them. Also there
are over-the-counter additives if the food doesn't already contain
them.

I would certainly ask your vet for an opinion, changing food is a
deceptively important issue.
GAUBSTER2 - 25 Feb 2004 05:15 GMT
>From: fan none@none.com

>Unless there is another reason for
>giving W/D, aside from "holding it down", it shouldn't be necessary to
>continue it, in my personal opinion.

Check with your vet first before taking stranger's advice about changing from a
Prescription Diet to something else.

>IF the problem was hairballs,
>there are premium cat foods with additives already in them. Also there
>are over-the-counter additives if the food doesn't already contain
>them.

To my knowledge, there aren't ANY "hairball foods" that have additives in them
with the express purpose of controlling hairballs.
fan - 25 Feb 2004 17:41 GMT
>>From: fan none@none.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>To my knowledge, there aren't ANY "hairball foods" that have additives in them
>with the express purpose of controlling hairballs.

Are you simply agreeing with my statement in this post that said "I
would certainly ask your vet for an opinion, changing food is a
deceptively important issue." ? My reason for asking is that you
quoted almost all of my post, but left that out. It is vitally
important to check with the vet, not just a good idea.

I did an Internet search for +"cat food" +"hairball control" and got
996 hits. These are the first four of them. They include big names and
small companies.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=1&pCatId=10076
http://www.epetpals.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?search=action&keywords="hairball_foods"
http://www.petco.com/search/mercado_search_results.asp?PN=default&CatEntry=&log=
1&entry=Pet%20Gold%20Adult%20Cat%20Food%20Hairball%20Control%20Formula&cm_ven=ni
k&cm_cat=12&cm_pla=fm4258389930&cm_ite=1665530

http://www.chateau-animaux.com/product-product_id/632

Obviously, with that many hits there are many more hairball control
foods out there. I have seen several major brands at the local pet
food stores. Also, I do not know how effective any of them are, I just
know they exist.
Steve G - 25 Feb 2004 19:17 GMT
> >From: fan none@none.com
>  
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Check with your vet first before taking stranger's advice about changing
> from a Prescription Diet to something else.

In the OP's case, I think it would be fine to slowly phase in a small
amount of their desired food and see if the cat resumes vomiting.
Given that the cat's problem was vomiting, if the introduction of the
new food does not lead to vomitage - well, then Bob's your Uncle. If
the intro leads to vomiting, then revert to the W/D. It's not rocket
science. Unless your cat is intending to go to Mars.

> >IF the problem was hairballs,
> >there are premium cat foods with additives already in them. Also there
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> To my knowledge, there aren't ANY "hairball foods" that have additives in
> them with the express purpose of controlling hairballs.

Your knowledge is incomplete. Iams, at least has a 'patented fibre
source' in their anti-hairball food. This claimed to assist in
hairball problems, oddly enough. Does it work? Who knows? IME, it
seems to be no more effective in this respect than any other food I've
fed my cats.

Steve.
GAUBSTER2 - 26 Feb 2004 16:11 GMT
>From: news@stevethepsycho.co.uk  (Steve G)

>> To my knowledge, there aren't ANY "hairball foods" that have additives in
>> them with the express purpose of controlling hairballs.
>
>Your knowledge is incomplete. Iams, at least has a 'patented fibre
>source' in their anti-hairball food.

No, "psycho"---yours is.  I'm waiting for you to make the argument that
everything in food is an "additive".  The post was insinuating that additives
such as petromalt, etc. may be in hairball controll foods.  Most all hairball
foods use higher levels of fibre as their "cure".
Steve G - 01 Mar 2004 16:07 GMT
> >From: news@stevethepsycho.co.uk  (Steve G)
>  
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> No, "psycho"---yours is.  I'm waiting for you to make the argument that
> everything in food is an "additive".  

Hope you've got a nice sleeping bag and supply of doughnuts for the
wait.

> The post was insinuating that additives
> such as petromalt, etc. may be in hairball controll foods.  Most all hairball
> foods use higher levels of fibre as their "cure".

fan said:
"IF the problem was hairballs, there are premium cat foods with
additives already in them"

I guess petromalt must be written in a really small typeface there,
eh?

The Iams food has a specific, patent-pending fibre source ADDed (hey,
there's a clue for you!) to the food for the purpose of controlling
hairballs. But you think it's not an 'additive'.

Maybe you'd prefer me to called it a 'augmentative'?

Now, whether these fibre additives actually do anything is another
matter.

Steve.
GAUBSTER2 - 02 Mar 2004 17:13 GMT
>From: news@stevethepsycho.co.uk  (Steve G)

>> No, "psycho"---yours is.  I'm waiting for you to make the argument that
>> everything in food is an "additive".  

>Hope you've got a nice sleeping bag and supply of doughnuts for the
>wait.

>The Iams food has a specific, patent-pending fibre source ADDed (hey,
>there's a clue for you!) to the food for the purpose of controlling
>hairballs.

See?  That didn't take long at all!  You made my point for me.

Actually all "hairball" foods have fibre to control hairballs--not just IAMS.
Judith Latham - 07 Mar 2004 21:47 GMT
> > >From: news@stevethepsycho.co.uk  (Steve G)
> >  
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > No, "psycho"---yours is.  I'm waiting for you to make the argument
> > that everything in food is an "additive".  

> Hope you've got a nice sleeping bag and supply of doughnuts for the wait.

> > The post was insinuating that additives such as petromalt, etc. may be
> > in hairball controll foods.  Most all hairball foods use higher levels
> > of fibre as their "cure".

> fan said: "IF the problem was hairballs, there are premium cat foods
> with additives already in them"

> I guess petromalt must be written in a really small typeface there, eh?

> The Iams food has a specific, patent-pending fibre source ADDed (hey,
> there's a clue for you!) to the food for the purpose of controlling
> hairballs. But you think it's not an 'additive'.

> Maybe you'd prefer me to called it a 'augmentative'?

> Now, whether these fibre additives actually do anything is another
> matter.

> Steve.

Hi, I usually lurk but felt I had to say that my cat Sophie has hills
senior as her normal food (along with some wet food as treats which she
licks off the gravy or jelly and leaves the meat) but when i gave her Iams
for a change she would later let out the Awawawaw yell and be violently
sick. Since I stopped feeding her the Iams she hasn't had this problem. It
just didn't suit her.

Judith

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Laura R. - 25 Feb 2004 01:11 GMT
circa Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:21:11 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Michael B Allen (mba2000@ioplex.com) said,
> At one time our cat (Mozart) had a little problem with holding down
> ordinary food so the vet sold us Hills Prescription Diet Feline W/D
> and we've been buying it ever since (several years). Do you think it's
> necessary to keep buying this food? Is there any harm in continuing to
> give this food to our cat? Can someone recommend a suitable alternative?

Is your cat prone to chubbiness?

Hill's makes Science Diet as well as their prescription diets; if
your cat likes the W/D, SD may be a good switch.

Laura
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jamie - 27 Feb 2004 18:23 GMT
> At one time our cat (Mozart) had a little problem with holding down
> ordinary food so the vet sold us Hills Prescription Diet Feline W/D
> and we've been buying it ever since (several years). Do you think it's
> necessary to keep buying this food? Is there any harm in continuing to
> give this food to our cat? Can someone recommend a suitable alternative?

You might try Science Diet Sensitive Stomach -- same company, somewhat
less expensive line, sold at pet stores rather than just at vets.

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Steve Crane - 29 Feb 2004 22:21 GMT
> At one time our cat (Mozart) had a little problem with holding down
> ordinary food so the vet sold us Hills Prescription Diet Feline W/D
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks,
> Mike

Mike,
   You need to discuss this with your vet so you can understand exactly why
the vet prescribed Prescription Diet w/d. There are almost no commercial
foods which exactly match the nutrient profile of a therapeutic diet. As
your cat ages, it will be necessary to change the diet to match the changes
brought on by ageing. It may be that w/d is no longer needed, or in fact may
be contraindicated as time goes by.

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