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Cat barfs every time she eats after 3-4 hours w/o food.

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ron barry - 20 Feb 2004 10:24 GMT
I have a siamese mix, about 3.5 years old, that is fine on her food
(science diet light - she won't eat anything else) unless her bowl is
left empty for a few hours.  When that happens, no matter what I do,
she ends up barfing up whatever she eats.  This has been going on for
years.  Her kitten (about 3 years old) does not have the same problem.

She doesn't chew her food at all, regardless of when it was that she
last ate.

Anyone have any ideas?

 thanks...

 rOn
kaeli - 20 Feb 2004 14:59 GMT
> I have a siamese mix, about 3.5 years old, that is fine on her food
> (science diet light - she won't eat anything else) unless her bowl is
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>
> Anyone have any ideas?

Jeffrey does this, too. He just eats too much, too fast, if he had an
empty bowl.
Solution: don't let the bowl get empty.  :)

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Elizabeth Blake - 21 Feb 2004 05:28 GMT
> Jeffrey does this, too. He just eats too much, too fast, if he had an
> empty bowl.
> Solution: don't let the bowl get empty.  :)

Otto was doing this, too.  He was become a total pig and eat as much as
possible, then puke it all up.  I used to give them wet food only in the
morning, and leave out dry for grazing for the rest of the day.  Now I give
them wet food in the m orning and if it's all/mostly gone by the time I
leave for work, I put a little dry food in the bowls.  Like, a tablespoon in
each bowl.  If I put any more than that, Otto will eat it as fast as
possible and I'll find puke when I return home.  I do the same thing at
night.  They get their wet, and a little while later I give them a little
dry.

Liz
Mary - 20 Feb 2004 17:49 GMT
> I have a siamese mix, about 3.5 years old, that is fine on her food
> (science diet light - she won't eat anything else) unless her bowl is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Anyone have any ideas?

Why leave her bowl empty at all? Is she overweight? Lots of cats do
fine with free feeding. Sometimes the simple solution is the best.
(Post some photos or links, I love Siamese cats!)
Laura R. - 21 Feb 2004 01:34 GMT
circa 20 Feb 2004 02:24:18 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, ron
barry (newsronb@foodini.org) said,
> She doesn't chew her food at all, regardless of when it was that she
> last ate.

In addition to what the others said, cats really don't chew their
food regardless. They have no molars, and their teeth are designed to
rip flesh from bones. The minimal "chewing" that most cats do is
really little more than chipping their dry food into slightly smaller
bits- if at all.

Laura
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Hailey - 21 Feb 2004 01:57 GMT
> In addition to what the others said, cats really don't chew their
> food regardless. They have no molars, and their teeth are designed to
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>
> Laura

Oh wow! Sometimes I am so slow. I watch the boys with their treats and James
literally swallows it. I could never even figure it out. Tucker actually
chews his into tiny pieces, and they start out tiny LOL
I guess that'd be why, so cats who swallow, which appears is normal, don't
choke!
I think I learn something new here every day!

Hailey
Laura R. - 21 Feb 2004 02:15 GMT
circa Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:57:50 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Hailey (hailey@cmi.net) said,
> > In addition to what the others said, cats really don't chew their
> > food regardless. They have no molars, and their teeth are designed to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> choke!
> I think I learn something new here every day!

BTW, cats do actually have molars (one on each side, upper and
lower), but they're not grinding molars, like ours our. They're more
"shredding" molars that are used to chew stringy flesh off of bones
(which is why you'll see cats chewing chunks of meat off of bones
with the sides of their mouths), or to break up hard food. They're
not, however, used to grind food to a mushy pulp like molars in
omnivores or herbivores are. Just wanted to clear up my mistype. :-)

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PawsForThought - 24 Feb 2004 02:41 GMT
>From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com

>circa Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:57:50 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>Hailey (hailey@cmi.net) said,
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>
>Laura

That's exactly how my cats eat.  They turn their heads to the side and chew
just like you describe (they're on a raw diet).

Lauren
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Laura R. - 25 Feb 2004 02:59 GMT
circa 24 Feb 2004 02:41:30 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
PawsForThought (darnit7@aol.comnolitter) said,

> >BTW, cats do actually have molars (one on each side, upper and
> >lower), but they're not grinding molars, like ours our. They're more
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> That's exactly how my cats eat.  They turn their heads to the side and chew
> just like you describe (they're on a raw diet).

And then they swallow big ol' hunks of whatever they chewed off. ;-)

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PawsForThought - 25 Feb 2004 03:59 GMT
>From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com

>circa 24 Feb 2004 02:41:30 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>PawsForThought (darnit7@aol.comnolitter) said,
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>
>Laura

LOL, but of course!  Argh
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Laura R. - 21 Feb 2004 02:20 GMT
circa Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:57:50 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Hailey (hailey@cmi.net) said,
> > In addition to what the others said, cats really don't chew their
> > food regardless. They have no molars, and their teeth are designed to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> choke!
> I think I learn something new here every day!

Hey, I even found references! :-)

http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/bpo_ch4a.php
http://www.cat-dental-health.com/html/anatomy.html
http://rulingcatsanddogs.com/facts-cat-trivia.htm

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Cathy Friedmann - 21 Feb 2004 02:01 GMT
> I have a siamese mix, about 3.5 years old, that is fine on her food
> (science diet light - she won't eat anything else) unless her bowl is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>   thanks...

Does she throw it up right away, & does it look basically like it did in the
bowl, only now it's damp & warmer? ;-)  My first cat did this very often,
throughout her life, yet she was one very healthy cat.  As Laura mentioned
in her reply in this thread, cats often don't actually chew their food, & SD
Light (my cats eat it, too) is little & round - probably quite easy for cats
to swallow whole.

Sounds gross, but have you watched to see if she will re-eat her food once
it's thrown up, & if it then stays down the second time around?

Cathy

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Fan - 21 Feb 2004 05:22 GMT
>I have a siamese mix, about 3.5 years old, that is fine on her food
>(science diet light - she won't eat anything else) unless her bowl is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>  rOn

My purebred applehead Siamese used to throw up quite often. He has
outgrown that, but still does it occationally. It seems to do no harm.
My previous purebred appleheads did not do this. The current applehead
mix has never done it. I have not heard other Siamese owners
complaining either.

The dry food dishes are never allowed to be empty so that was not a
factor for him. One trick that I have heard of to slow down a dog that
eats too fast is to spread the food out on the floor instead of
putting it in a bowl. It takes more time to gather it up that way.

A vet suggested giving my cat hairball treatments, but I saw no
difference when doing that versus not doing it. The vet was not
worried and again, it seemed to do the cat no harm. As in your case,
it appeared as if the food was swallowed whole, but I didn't inspect
it that carefully.

There was an issue of getting up in the middle of the night for the
bathroom, for me. I never found a solution to the problem of steping
in it with bare feet. Perhaps slippers? :-)
Mary - 21 Feb 2004 12:28 GMT
> I never found a solution to the problem of steping
> in it with bare feet. Perhaps slippers? :-)

No way! Then you have something to wash in addition to your foot. I
limp into the bathroom and put my whole foot up in the sink. Lucky I
have those wide European-style sinks.

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