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Cat with diarhea

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Linda E - 15 Feb 2004 20:03 GMT
5 yo started with loose stools this a.m.   No change in food, is eating
*almost* normaly... (not quite as much as normal, but probably what she
should *normaly* eat - has tendancy to overeat).

Is there anything I can give her to help?  She gets some canned food in the
a.m... should I *not* give it to her tomorrow a.m.? Thanks.
Cheryl - 15 Feb 2004 21:53 GMT
Feb 2004:

> Is there anything I can give her to help?  She gets some canned food
> in the a.m... should I *not* give it to her tomorrow a.m.? Thanks.

That's probably a good idea.  A sudden onset of diarrhea can usually be
cleared by a food fast. Though if it persists after a fast (to clear the
system of impurities and/or bacteria) a vet visit is needed; I wouldn't let
it go if a fast doesn't help. 24 hours with just water. It will be hard but
good to clean the system. Good luck.

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Linda E - 15 Feb 2004 22:05 GMT
> Feb 2004:
>
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> it go if a fast doesn't help. 24 hours with just water. It will be hard but
> good to clean the system. Good luck.

Thanks.  We  will definately see the vet if she still has it tomorrow.  (I
am no stranger to vet visits... have the number memorized!)
Linda
Laura R. - 15 Feb 2004 22:21 GMT
circa Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:05:09 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Linda E (LindaE@stny.rr.com) said,
> Thanks.  We  will definately see the vet if she still has it tomorrow.  (I
> am no stranger to vet visits... have the number memorized!)

I struggle to remember my own phone number, but I can still rattle
off my old veterinarians' number without thinking twice. I don't have
the new vets' number down yet, though.

Anyway, I'm actually responding to tell you that the vet can give you
kitty-Immodium if necessary. IIRC, it's the same drug as people
Immodium, just generic and lower-dose.

Laura
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Linda E - 15 Feb 2004 22:48 GMT
> circa Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:05:09 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Linda E (LindaE@stny.rr.com) said,
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>
> Laura

Thanks, Laura... that's good to know...... I'm sure Betsy is getting tired
of me chasing her around with a washcloth to wipe her butt!

Linda
---MIKE--- - 15 Feb 2004 23:19 GMT
You might try getting some acidolphulis capsules (sp) at a health food
store.  Open the capsules and mix the powder with the canned food (it
has no taste).  This will replace the intestinal bacteria IF they are
depleted.  Plain LIVE CULTURE yoghurt would accomplish the same thing if
the cat will eat it.

                 -MIKE
Cheryl - 15 Feb 2004 23:36 GMT
15 Feb 2004:

> Plain LIVE CULTURE yoghurt would accomplish the same thing if
> the cat will eat it.

If it is intestinal, rarely will the good bacteria from yogurt reach the
intestines.  I kept reading that it will help, but too many articles stated
that it really doesn't.

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Sherry - 16 Feb 2004 05:06 GMT
>> Plain LIVE CULTURE yoghurt would accomplish the same thing if
>> the cat will eat it.
>
>If it is intestinal, rarely will the good bacteria from yogurt reach the
>intestines.  I kept reading that it will help, but too many articles stated
>that it really doesn't.

Wouldn't yogurt make the diarrhea worse, especially if the cat was lactose
intolerant?

Sherry
Laura R. - 16 Feb 2004 05:28 GMT
circa 16 Feb 2004 05:06:27 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
>  Wouldn't yogurt make the diarrhea worse, especially if the cat was lactose
> intolerant?

Actually, the live cultures in yogurt help to digest lactose in the
intestine, and the starter enzymes used to make yogurt produce
lactose-hydrolyzing lactase, making it a good calcium source for
lactose-intolerant people/beasties.

Ouch, that sentence hurt. <G>

Laura
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Sherry - 16 Feb 2004 05:32 GMT
>circa 16 Feb 2004 05:06:27 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
>(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
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>
>Laura

Double ouch. I had to read it twice. That's good info. to know, though; the
only experience I have with giving pets yogurt is...a parakeet who was on
antibiotics once had to have yogurt to replace to "good" bacteria. Apparently
it worked.

Sherry
Phil P. - 16 Feb 2004 01:49 GMT
> > Anyway, I'm actually responding to tell you that the vet can give you
> > kitty-Immodium if necessary. IIRC, it's the same drug as people
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Linda

Linda,

The use of opiate antidiarrheals such as Immodium (loperamide) in cats is
*very* controversial.  Many vets do not recommend their use in cats.  They
can
cause hyperactivity and respiratory depression in cats.

They should not be used without the knowledge and consent of your vet and
not for more than 3 days.

Phil
Linda E - 16 Feb 2004 02:30 GMT
> > > Anyway, I'm actually responding to tell you that the vet can give you
> > > kitty-Immodium if necessary. IIRC, it's the same drug as people
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>
> Phil

Thanks, Phil.  I wouldn't use anything without consulting vet first.  Do you
agree that I should hold off feeding her for awhile (she's already eaten
today) or just skip the canned food and give her the dry in the a.m.?

btw... had her titer checked a couple of weeks ago.  When she stopped meds
18 mos. ago, her titer was 1:32... next check was 1:64.... then 1:32...
1:16.... last check was back to 1:32.... - that's after 18 months since
medication.  Don't know if it will ever be zero.........
Linda
Laura R. - 16 Feb 2004 02:54 GMT
circa Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:30:35 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Linda E (LindaE@stny.rr.com) said,
> > > > Anyway, I'm actually responding to tell you that the vet can give you
> > > > kitty-Immodium if necessary. IIRC, it's the same drug as people
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> agree that I should hold off feeding her for awhile (she's already eaten
> today) or just skip the canned food and give her the dry in the a.m.?

Phil must have missed the part where I said that *your vet can give
you* something for the diarrhea.

Laura
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Cheryl - 16 Feb 2004 02:58 GMT
Feb 2004:

> Phil must have missed the part where I said that *your vet can give
> you* something for the diarrhea.

I almost put in my post that vets will sometimes prescribe a round of
Flagyl for diarrhea but left it out knowing someone would balk at the
suggestion of meds.  But it isn't bad for Linda to know some of the
possibile meds just in case her vet doesn't suggest trying them.

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Linda E - 16 Feb 2004 13:04 GMT
> Feb 2004:
>
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> suggestion of meds.  But it isn't bad for Linda to know some of the
> possibile meds just in case her vet doesn't suggest trying them.

Thanks.  The more info, the better.  She only went once during the night (in
fact, it must have been near morning) and it was a *little* more formed (no
mess on her bum)...... waiting to call the vet.

Linda
Linda E - 16 Feb 2004 13:04 GMT
> > Feb 2004:
> >
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>
> Linda

....and btw... she did drink a *lot* of water yesterday......
Phil P. - 16 Feb 2004 15:49 GMT
> circa Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:30:35 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Linda E (LindaE@stny.rr.com) said,
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> Phil must have missed the part where I said that *your vet can give
> you* something for the diarrhea.

Actually, you said "the vet can give you
kitty-Immodium if necessary. IIRC, it's the same drug as people Immodium,
just generic and lower-dose."

I didn't miss anything nor was I criticizing your advice. So chill out.

You mentioned "Immodium" I wanted to make sure Linda and others were aware
of the possible adverse effects associated with Immodium since its an OTC
drug which can be purchased without a script.
Linda E - 17 Feb 2004 13:06 GMT
> 5 yo started with loose stools this a.m.   No change in food, is eating
> *almost* normaly... (not quite as much as normal, but probably what she
> should *normaly* eat - has tendancy to overeat).
>
> Is there anything I can give her to help?  She gets some canned food in the
> a.m... should I *not* give it to her tomorrow a.m.? Thanks.

btw.... Betsy seems to be over her bout.... spoke with the vet, but as cat
was improving, she said to wait another day.... now my other cat has the
same problem, although not as badly.... probably doesn't have it as bad
because I had already stopped feeding them the canned food yesterday.

Linda
Cheryl - 18 Feb 2004 02:07 GMT
Feb 2004:

> btw.... Betsy seems to be over her bout.... spoke with the vet, but as
> cat was improving, she said to wait another day.... now my other cat
> has the same problem, although not as badly.... probably doesn't have
> it as bad because I had already stopped feeding them the canned food
> yesterday.

Sounds like maybe the food was bad. Glad she's doing better!

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Linda E - 18 Feb 2004 12:13 GMT
> Feb 2004:
>
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>
> Sounds like maybe the food was bad. Glad she's doing better!

Yeah, ya know ....I didn't notice any difference in the consistency of the
food, but sometimes it's more watery than other times - really p***'s me
off!  Gheesh........

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