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BigDaDDY - 11 Feb 2004 08:21 GMT
Hi all,

Something is wrong with our cat Sammy and we are not sure what it is.  
Basically, she hasn't defecated for about a week, and she has not urinated
for about a week.  She is throwing up around the house quite a bit and is
not drinking water as well. Initially, we took her to the vet, and since
she had a history of urinary tract infections, we went with the Clavamox
(amoxicillin trihydrate/clavulanate potassium) antibiotic thinking that it
may be a repeat urinary tract infection.  However, this does not seem to be
working.

I'm wondering if anyone may know what this is.  We don't have a lot of
money to do all sorts of tests, so if we can narrow down the scope a little
bit, that would be helpful.  I'm hoping maybe someone here has seen these
symptoms before and can give us some insight as to what it may be.

Thanks,

Matt
Luvskats00 - 11 Feb 2004 11:03 GMT
BigDaDDY ihatespam@hotmail.com
writes

>Something is wrong with our cat Sammy...she hasn't defecated for about a week,
and she has not urinated
>for about a week.  She is throwing up around the house quite a bit and is
>not drinking water as well. Initially, we took her to the vet, and since
>she had a history of urinary tract infections, we went with the Clavamox
>(amoxicillin trihydrate/clavulanate potassium) antibiotic thinking that it
>may be a repeat urinary tract infection.

Hmm...not sure if this is a legitimate post, but I'll go along.....what would
you do if someone in the family didn't urinate or deficate for a week..didn't
eat and was throwning up? If the first doc visit didn't work, would you post in
a newsgroup or consult a 2nd doctor?   Your cat is very ill...and if the first
vet didn't pick up on this - or it wasn't communicated properly - then it's
time to boogey to another vet ... or phone (describing what you posted here)
and get help for the poor cat.
Liz - 12 Feb 2004 21:27 GMT
> BigDaDDY ihatespam@hotmail.com
> writes
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Hmm...not sure if this is a legitimate post.....

Really, a week without urinating is hard to believe. I would have
panicked by now. Would acute renal failure be anything like this?

Bigdaddy, is that cat allowed outdoors? Could she have gotten into
some kind of poison? If she´s not allowed outdoors, does your
girlfriend have antifreeze or any other poisonous substance that the
cat could have gotten into?
Gail - 11 Feb 2004 14:28 GMT
SEE ANOTHER VET.
Gail
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Matt
kaeli - 11 Feb 2004 15:14 GMT
> I'm wondering if anyone may know what this is.  We don't have a lot of
> money to do all sorts of tests, so if we can narrow down the scope a little
> bit, that would be helpful.  I'm hoping maybe someone here has seen these
> symptoms before and can give us some insight as to what it may be.

If you don't have money to treat your child, do you just ask people
what's wrong instead of taking it to the doctor and doing what you can?
The symptoms are too general for a vet to narrow without tests. How can
we, when we've never even seen your kitty?

Check your local humane society - they often have vets who will do work
for less money and take payments instead of all requiring the money up
front.
Do this ASAP. Your cat is VERY ill.

I hope your kitty gets better.

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Barb - 11 Feb 2004 16:54 GMT
I am sorry something is wrong with your cat.  I am afraid something is wrong
with your vet, too.  My cats have gone through several urinary tract
infections and this doesn't sound like that to me.

My vet wouldn't give medication before taking a urine sample and testing it.
Last time my cat was so uncomfortable that I begged him and he did give her
a steroid to tide her over until the next day when he got back the urine
test results and knew what to give her.

I agree with the other posters that your poor cat is very ill and needs
help, quick.  Please see another vet as soon as possible.

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Karen - 11 Feb 2004 17:32 GMT
To be quite honest it could be anything, but I wonder about an obstruction
of somekind. Please see another vet more proactive vet. I think, no matter
the financial situation, you need to have this cat tested and xrayed. She is
suffering.

Karen

> Hi all,
>
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>
> Matt
Hilary - 11 Feb 2004 18:56 GMT
> Something is wrong with our cat Sammy and we are not sure what it is.  
> Basically, she hasn't defecated for about a week, and she has not urinated
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> may be a repeat urinary tract infection.  However, this does not seem to be
> working.

I don't know what it is, but it sounds quite serious.  We use a cat
specialist as our vet - I feel that they will have more experience with
cats and are better at handling them.  Is there somewhere near you?  If
not, can you call?  (I've received general advice over the phone, such as
"how bad is this" and "what can you suggest for...".)

I've not had a cat which wasn't doing anything.  One of mine had a UTI for
a while, which luckily went away and hasn't returned.  A friend's cat has
been slightly constipated - I think he got tuna in oil and a few other
foods like that, and they seemed to help.

Apart from that, all I can suggest is call another vet.  They may not need
to see the cat (aka charge you) to give you an idea of the problem, though
to confirm any diagnosis you will need to take the cat in.

Good luck.

Hilary
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 21:00 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Matt
Nope, never had a cat experience them - at least to this degree, but a week
is *way* too long.  In fact, re: lack of urination, a week seems impossible,
to me.  Blockages, dehydration, both??... guesses  -  I don't know.  And
these of course are most likely the symptoms of an underlying prob.  But it
would take a vet's diagnosis.

If the vet has not seen the cat again - since the initial appt. when the
Clavamox was prescribed, the cat **needs** to go back to the vet.  Now.  I
hope whatever it is, can get diagnosed & successfully treated.

Cathy

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Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 03:47 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:21:56 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
BigDaDDY (ihatespam@hotmail.com) said,
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> bit, that would be helpful.  I'm hoping maybe someone here has seen these
> symptoms before and can give us some insight as to what it may be.

1. How long ago was she taken to the vet?
2. Has she had absolutely *no* urine or bowel output in a week?
3. I do think it is vital to get her to a vet immediately, if for no
other reason than to treat her for the dehydration she likely is
experiencing. As far as tests, cross that bridge when you come to it,
but your first course of action should be to find out what the vet
thinks.

Laura
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Liz - 12 Feb 2004 21:52 GMT
Bigdaddy, I did a search with the signs you mentioned and got this:

-Anorexia, loss or decreased appetite, not nursing, off feed
-Vomiting or regurgitation, emesis
-Decreased amount of stools, absent feces, constipation
-Oliguria or anuria, retention of urine

VITAMIN D, CHOLECALCIFEROL, TOXICITY IN DOGS AND CATS
   
Description: Rodenticides and other products that contain vitamin D3
(cholecalciferol) are available. Fatal toxicities due to this agent
have occurred in dogs and cats; signs in cats are frequently not as
severe as those in dogs. There is hypercalcemia and hyperphosphatemia.
Death is usually due to renal failure. Dx by history, signs,
hypercalcemia, hyperphosphatemia, pathologic findings, and increased
concentration of serum 25-hydroxycholecalciferol. The human drugs
calcipotriol, calcipotriene, and tacalcitol have caused vitamin D
toxicity in dogs. Oversupplementation with vitamin D can be toxic.

If the cat is not allowed outdoors, ask your girlfriend if she has
given the cat any vitamin supplements and if these contain vitamin D.

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