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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2004claws out when jumping into or out of lap
Hello, we have three great cats, two of them are brothers and exhibit the same behavior. They are about three years old and declawed (adopted them that way). They never scratch or use their claws or bite, except when jumping into or out of our laps, they extend their rear claws about half of the time, of course leaving lovely scratches through our clothing. We tell them NO and tap their paws when they do this, but I guess they don't understand. How can we train them to keep the claws in (its not like theyre slipping and scrambling around to get up or down). I suppose we should have tried to train them out of this when they were young, perhaps it's too late. We keep their claws clipped but it still hurts and scratches us up. I guess the blood is a small price to pay for their love :). 2004: > They are about three years old and declawed (adopted them > that way). They never scratch or use their claws or bite, except when [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in (its not like theyre slipping and scrambling around to get up or > down). Rear claws don't retract like front claws so it isn't like a behavior you can train. You can only keep them clipped.  SignatureCheryl Trapped like rats. In a chia-pet. MIB II "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message > Rear claws don't retract like front claws so it isn't like a behavior you > can train. You can only keep them clipped. that's interesting, i figured it was something they have control over since i watch them pull the claws in when they want and sometimes they put them out to push off and sometimes they dont. 'tis ok, i can live with it (he says as he rubs his latest lacerations) 2004: > that's interesting, i figured it was something they have control over > since i watch them pull the claws in when they want and sometimes they > put them out to push off and sometimes they dont. 'tis ok, i can live > with it (he says as he rubs his latest lacerations) They are only "flexing" them. :) It is a clear indication on how infused a cats claws are to their digits. SignatureCheryl Trapped like rats. In a chia-pet. MIB II >From: "Rob" rob@nospam.com >"Cheryl" <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message > Rear claws don't >retract like front claws so it isn't like a behavior you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >out to push off and sometimes they dont. 'tis ok, i can live with it (he >says as he rubs his latest lacerations) Hi Rob, The problem I think is that cats are digitigrade, meaning they walk on the tips of their toes (the part that has been amputated from the declawing). So I think they may be having a harder time balancing themselves when they land and thus using their back feet and claws to balance. I know my cats (fully clawed) jump into my lap all the time but their claws never scratch me. Maybe when you sit down and want the cat in your lap, you could put a towel or blanket down first so when they land, they're not scratching you. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm If it's a real problem you might want to try Soft Paws. They are vinyl caps that fit over the nails. W Hello, we have three great cats, two of them are brothers and exhibit the same behavior. They are about three years old and declawed (adopted them that way). They never scratch or use their claws or bite, except when jumping into or out of our laps, they extend their rear claws about half of the time, of course leaving lovely scratches through our clothing. We tell them NO and tap their paws when they do this, but I guess they don't understand. How can we train them to keep the claws in (its not like theyre slipping and scrambling around to get up or down). I suppose we should have tried to train them out of this when they were young, perhaps it's too late. We keep their claws clipped but it still hurts and scratches us up. I guess the blood is a small price to pay for their love :). > How can we train them to keep the claws in (its not like theyre > slipping and scrambling around to get up or down). I suppose we should have > tried to train them out of this when they were young, perhaps it's too late. > We keep their claws clipped but it still hurts and scratches us up. I guess > the blood is a small price to pay for their love :). My theory is that the cats don't realize that clothes cover flesh. My cats don't grab skin, but don't hesitate to grab clothing. You could go naked, I suppose, to avoid the problem. >My theory is that the cats don't realize that clothes cover flesh. My cats >don't grab skin, but don't hesitate to grab clothing. You could go naked, >I suppose, to avoid the problem. I think this is true. They also don't understand that our skin is tighter than theirs, so it rips easier. My cat, Maynard, does seem to understand clothing somewhat. He knows he can only chew my bare wrist, but he can bite hard if I have my heavy jacket on. Unfortunately, he thinks a sweatshirt is the same thing as a jacket, so he doesn't understand that one hurts. Then there is my other cat. She is 11 years old, and she still hasn't learned that biting my bare skin is not allowed. She bites hard and will not let go. Not even if I scream. Maynard is at least apologetic and lets go if I react in pain. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 11 Feb 2004 09:08:09 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > I think this is true. They also don't understand that our skin is > tighter than theirs, so it rips easier. Not to mention BALD! Fur offers a lot of protection. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >circa 11 Feb 2004 09:08:09 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan >Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, >> I think this is true. They also don't understand that our skin is >> tighter than theirs, so it rips easier. >> >Not to mention BALD! Fur offers a lot of protection. Don't give them that excuse. They might attack my head! But yes, They have no reason to think we aren't as tough as they are. The things they do to each other in play (with no injuries) would have me leaking pints of blood). Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 08:04:12 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > >> I think this is true. They also don't understand that our skin is > >> tighter than theirs, so it rips easier. > >> > >Not to mention BALD! Fur offers a lot of protection. > > Don't give them that excuse. They might attack my head! Heh, funny you should say that. In the last place where I lived, working for a different company, I traveled a lot. When I'd been gone too frequently or too long for Jacob's taste, I always knew it because of this one thing he would do on my first night back home. Just as I'd be falling asleep, Jacob would get on my pillow, lie down on his side curled around my head (isn't that sweet?) and then dig in all four paws and crazily snarl the bejeebies out of my hair. He'd extend his claws just enough so that I knew he was making a point. Then he'd bite my head. He never broke skin, but he came damned close, and he certainly did let me know how he felt about my traveling. So far, the occasional traveling I've done since moving here seems to be okay with him- he hasn't done a "head scrabble" yet. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >Heh, funny you should say that. In the last place where I lived, >working for a different company, I traveled a lot. When I'd been gone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >close, and he certainly did let me know how he felt about my >traveling. Kira attacks me when she thinks I am not spending enough time with her.She will bite or swat at me when I pass by. Sometimes, she will run and leap at me, wrapping her paws around my thigh. It doesn't take much to get the hint, so I spend some special time with her, and she drops the hostilty routine. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > >Heh, funny you should say that. In the last place where I lived, > >working for a different company, I traveled a lot. When I'd been gone [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It doesn't take much to get the hint, so I spend some special time > with her, and she drops the hostilty routine. One of the cutest things Buddha does is slap at us when we have been petting her for a while and try to withdraw. It's like "Hey! *I* will let you know when you can stop!" circa Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:41:22 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > > Kira attacks me when she thinks I am not spending enough time with > > her.She will bite or swat at me when I pass by. Sometimes, she will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > petting her for a while and try to withdraw. It's like "Hey! *I* will > let you know when you can stop!" Alex used to do that, even going so far as to tear after me and grab my ankles. Jacob, OTOH, will gently grab with both paws and his mouth and will pull my hand to wherever he wants to be petted if I try to stop before he's ready. He even does it to other people when they pet him. :-) Camille stands up on her hind legs and "chipmunks" when she wants to be petted, mewling loudly. Oscar, being my dain bramaged kitty, just runs headlong into me when he wants to be petted. <G> Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. circa Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:41:22 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (rosefan@email.com) said, > > Kira attacks me when she thinks I am not spending enough time with > > her.She will bite or swat at me when I pass by. Sometimes, she will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > petting her for a while and try to withdraw. It's like "Hey! *I* will > let you know when you can stop!" Alex used to do that, even going so far as to tear after me and grab my ankles. Jacob, OTOH, will gently grab with both paws and his mouth and will pull my hand to wherever he wants to be petted if I try to stop before he's ready. He even does it to other people when they pet him. :-) Camille stands up on her hind legs and "chipmunks" when she wants to be petted, mewling loudly. Oscar, being my dain bramaged kitty, just runs headlong into me when he wants to be petted. <G> Laura My cat (well actually the dh's cat), Buffy, was a head-butter. I always thought he was a few short upstairs after he skidded out and ran head first into the back door. W circa Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:29:46 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said, > My cat (well actually the dh's cat), Buffy, was a head-butter. I always > thought he was a few short upstairs after he skidded out and ran head first > into the back door. A former co-worker of mine had a cat that would open cupboards in the kitchen by doing that. Intentionally. Methinks the kitty was a bit, um, slow... Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > Hello, we have three great cats, two of them are brothers and exhibit the > same behavior. They are about three years old and declawed (adopted them [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > We keep their claws clipped but it still hurts and scratches us up. I guess > the blood is a small price to pay for their love :). I have an almost 14 year old female cat, Tiger. Old age seems to have really caught up with her the last few years, as she now extends her *front* claws whenever she jumps onto something. My bed mattress is pretty high and the claws always come out for that - I can hear them scraping along the bottom sheet. Most of the time she remembers to go to the foot of the bed and jump on the trunk there first, instead of going straight for the bed. She also extends the claws when she wants in my lap. She extends the claws when she decides that she wants in my lap, while I'm sitting on the toilet, with bare legs. *That* is not fun. So now when I see her coming, I just bend down and scoop her up so she doesn't have to jump. I don't see her all of the time, so accidents do happen. Unfortunately I usually make a noise, which freaks her out, and the claws go in deeper as she tries to get away. Liz >I have an almost 14 year old female cat, Tiger. Old age seems to have >really caught up with her the last few years, as she now extends her *front* [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and jump on the trunk there first, instead of going straight for the bed. >' My older cat does this too. he used to jump, now he puts out the claws and climbs. >She also extends the claws when she wants in my lap. She extends the claws >when she decides that she wants in my lap, while I'm sitting on the toilet, >with bare legs. *That* is not fun. So now when I see her coming, I just >bend down and scoop her up so she doesn't have to jump. I don't see her all >of the time, so accidents do happen. Unfortunately I usually make a noise, >which freaks her out, and the claws go in deeper as she tries to get away. I am luckier with the bathroom. The tub is next to the toilet, so he will jump on the tub and then step over. If I see him coming, I just pick him up. Anything to save him a jump. He's 17, and he's earned the special service. He also asks to be picked up. He will put his front feet and then kind of jerk his body forward slightly like he is going to jump, but his feet don't move. Looks like a half-assed attempt at a jump. It means, pick me up, I can't do it. I did have a recent bad experience with a bathroom visit. Chase, a 3 year old kitty, had his front feet on me, and the hind feet on the tub, only he was standing on my jeans on the tub. They slipped, he panicked, and I have a lovely line down my hand (might be permanent - it's been a month, and the line is still very obvious), and I have a matching line on my thigh. Also, never let the cat put his feet up on the roll of toilet paper if he is still in your lap. Maynard did that many years ago. It rolled, and I ended up with two sets of tracks down my thigh. Most of my cat injuries have been Maynard, and all accidents. Oh, the stories I could tell. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 11 Feb 2004 09:14:16 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > They slipped, he > panicked, and I have a lovely line down my hand (might be permanent - > it's been a month, and the line is still very obvious), and I have a > matching line on my thigh. I treasure my various kitty scars. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > I treasure my various kitty scars. ;-) I just noticed two cat scratches on my neck today. The only good thing is that it makes me look like I have a much more interesting social life than I currently do :-)! rona Signature***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:36:09 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Rona Yuthasastrakosol (prasantrin@yahoo.com) said, > > I treasure my various kitty scars. ;-) > > I just noticed two cat scratches on my neck today. The only good thing is > that it makes me look like I have a much more interesting social life than I > currently do :-)! <GUFFAW> Yeah, I had a couple of doozies running right down the center of my chest once. They started just under my collarbones and continued south until just below my solar plexus. While they healed, if I wasn't wearing turtlenecks, I noticed a glance or two couple with rather, um, confused looks. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >I treasure my various kitty scars. ;-) Yes, many of our good memories *do* last a lifetime. I have a lovely scar on my ear from Maynard. He was about 5 months old at the time. (warning: do not pick up kitten too fast, they will try to grab something). Oh, and my 11 year old cat, Kira, has a scar on her ear. She was bitten my my first cat when she was about4 months old. My first cat was 19 at the time and died a couple months later. Everytime I notice Kira's ear, I think of Fiona. Kind of a living tribute. I have some other good ones too. But I am glad that my "suicide" scars disapeared. Years ago, we tried some spray on flea stuff. We tried my mom's cat first. My job was to hold that cat. One spray, and I was thethered to a 9 pound ball of claws. It was over in a flash, and I had 3 bloddy streaks on my wrist, right where you would cut if you wanted to kill yourself. I looked great with a bandage there. I'm sure everybody was wondering how depressed I was at the time. One of them is slightly visible if I turn my wrist just right, but it blends in well with the natural wrinkles of the skin. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 07:39:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > I have some other good ones too. But I am glad that my "suicide" scars > disapeared. Years ago, we tried some spray on flea stuff. We tried my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > is slightly visible if I turn my wrist just right, but it blends in > well with the natural wrinkles of the skin. I have a couple of those from beasties, but I look like I must've *really* been determined, 'cause they run vertically along my inner forearm instead of horizontally across my wrist, which, AIUI, is a much more efficient desanguination mechanism. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > I am luckier with the bathroom. The tub is next to the toilet, so he > will jump on the tub and then step over. If I see him coming, I just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to jump, but his feet don't move. Looks like a half-assed attempt at a > jump. It means, pick me up, I can't do it. My toilet is right inside the door. My bathroom is small, so if Tiger comes in and looks like she wants up, I can reach over to the opposite wall and grab a towel off the rack to put on my lap. > I did have a recent bad experience with a bathroom visit. Chase, a 3 > year old kitty, had his front feet on me, and the hind feet on the > tub, only he was standing on my jeans on the tub. They slipped, he > panicked, and I have a lovely line down my hand (might be permanent - > it's been a month, and the line is still very obvious), and I have a > matching line on my thigh. Tiger used to be a working cat, in a bookstore. I retired her 6 years ago. One day at work I was holding her and one of my co-workers had a hissy fit over something, and he slammed both of his fists down on his desk. Tiger FREAKED and clawed her way over me, giving me a good scratch on the neck as she went. Another co-worker saw it and said "That is SO COOL. It looks like somebody tried to cut your head off". The scratch went halfway around my neck, but it wasn't deep. The co-worker who caused the problem didn't care about my neck, he was just really upset that he scared Tiger. Liz circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:11:53 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Elizabeth Blake (poodlebone@NOSPAMearthlink.net) said, > The co-worker who caused the problem didn't > care about my neck, he was just really upset that he scared Tiger. Priorities. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:11:53 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >Elizabeth Blake (poodlebone@NOSPAMearthlink.net) said, >> The co-worker who caused the problem didn't >> care about my neck, he was just really upset that he scared Tiger. >> >Priorities. ;-) Exactly! I can be dripping blood, but I will still be making sure my animals are okay. I've been laughing over your sig. That is great. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 07:43:07 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > >> The co-worker who caused the problem didn't > >> care about my neck, he was just really upset that he scared Tiger. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Exactly! I can be dripping blood, but I will still be making sure my > animals are okay. Ah, do I have some Alex stories for you, then... ;-) > I've been laughing over your sig. That is great. I keep meaning to switch to something else as my default, but that one just cracks me up too much. I can't claim to have authored it, though. :-) Laura SignatureThe secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -Albert Einstein > Hello, we have three great cats, two of them are brothers and exhibit the > same behavior. They are about three years old and declawed (adopted them [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > We keep their claws clipped but it still hurts and scratches us up. I guess > the blood is a small price to pay for their love :). I honestly don't think they know they are doing it unless you draw their attention to it. When they grip for traction, their claws come out. You can train them to be conscious of it, but I've only done that once, and quite by accident. My cat jumped up on me unexpectedly with her claws out and my reaction was a startled YEOUCH!! followed by my standing up hurriedly. The kitty was startled, too, as she found herself abruptly on the floor, but she never dug her claws in again. *LOL* I felt bad that she took a tumble, even though it was her fault, the brat. *g* I just keep all their claws trimmed very close to the quick. They're not sharp at all. Funnily enough, they are much more careful when I'm nekkid. They seem to know the difference between flesh and clothing. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Synonym: the word you use in place of a word you can't spell. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:11:28 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > Funnily enough, they are much more careful when I'm nekkid. They seem to > know the difference between flesh and clothing. Yeah, mine run away screaming and crying when I'm nekkid, so they must know the difference. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:11:28 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yeah, mine run away screaming and crying when I'm nekkid, so they > must know the difference. ;-) My cat Otto is a little pervert. He likes to watch me in the shower, and has actually jumped in with me twice. On purpose. He was always on the sink waiting for me to get out, and then he wanted me to pet him with my wet hands. Lately Tiger, in her quest to be with me as much as possible, has been grabbing the sink first, so Otto has to take the toilet. Otto let her get away with it for awhile but he's had the sink spot all this week so far. After I get out of the shower, he wants to be in my lap (with a towel wrapped around me). I figured he just likes the towel but even when I give him one of his own, he wants my lap. He's not a major lap cat. When he jumps up, he usually only stays a minute or two. But in the morning I have to finally push him off, and he resists. Liz circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:16:52 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Elizabeth Blake (poodlebone@NOSPAMearthlink.net) said, > > > Funnily enough, they are much more careful when I'm nekkid. They seem to > > > know the difference between flesh and clothing. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sink waiting for me to get out, and then he wanted me to pet him with my wet > hands. Okay, I have to admit, the running away stuff was baloney. ;-) My cats cluster in the bathroom in the morning while I'm getting ready, but as soon as I get dressed, they disappear. Little pervs. <G> > Lately Tiger, in her quest to be with me as much as possible, has > been grabbing the sink first, so Otto has to take the toilet. Otto let her [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > jumps up, he usually only stays a minute or two. But in the morning I have > to finally push him off, and he resists. It seems to me that cats are extra-cuddly first thing in the morning. Is it just my beasties and yours? Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > It seems to me that cats are extra-cuddly first thing in the morning. > Is it just my beasties and yours? Nope, mine are, too. And they also cluster in the bathroom in the morning. Rowan gets on the sink when I'm brushing my teeth and demands pets every morning. Signature-- ~kaeli~ With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >Okay, I have to admit, the running away stuff was baloney. ;-) My >cats cluster in the bathroom in the morning while I'm getting ready, >but as soon as I get dressed, they disappear. Little pervs. <G> Our cats (and dogs) think the bathroom is social hour. Everytime we go to the bathroom, they have a party. Everybody has to come. Doesn't matter which bathroom or who. They will even attend the parties with strangers in the house. "Gee - your cats are *very* freindly." The only times I close the bathroom door are when I take a shower (and I wait til everyone arrives before shutting the door) or when there are male guests in the house. My dad and nephew know to come up the stairs slowly. The toilet area has its own sliding door, so we can shut that if we hear somebody coming. But the main door must remain open. Otherwise, there will be meowing, and attacking of the door. Even my blind dog, years ago, would show up in teh bathroom everytime I went, even if I used the other bathroom. It just seems to be a call to gather. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 08:01:00 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > Our cats (and dogs) think the bathroom is social hour. Everytime we go > to the bathroom, they have a party. Everybody has to come. Doesn't > matter which bathroom or who. They will even attend the parties with > strangers in the house. "Gee - your cats are *very* freindly." Oh, man, that has to be embarrassing. Funny as hell, but embarrassing. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >circa 13 Feb 2004 08:01:00 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan >Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Oh, man, that has to be embarrassing. Funny as hell, but >embarrassing. :-) If we remember, will warn them. If we know they don't like cats, we specificially tell them to make sure there aren't any in there when the shut the door. Fortunately, Chase is a scaredy cat with strangers, so they don't have to experience his cold feet and his icy cold nose. At least Maynard is warm when he stands on you. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >My cat Otto is a little pervert. He likes to watch me in the shower, and >has actually jumped in with me twice. On purpose. Kira usually sits in teh bathroom with me. She sits on the toilet next to the tub and waits for me to get done. Sometimes, she looks and seems really confused that I would intentionally do this to myself. Back when I had longer hair, I would kneel next to the tub and do my hair first. It was eaiser that way. She actually wandered out on my back to inspect the faucet. I was really concerned that she might freak when her claws were so close to my neck. Chase usually isn't in the bathroom during a shower since he chases Kira. (can't have that during a shower). But recently, I had him instead. He decided halfway through that he wanted out, and began tugging at the door. and crying. I take my showers late at night while others are sleeping. So, I had to keep calling him to come over so that he wouldn't attack the door. He came over, inspected the tub, and almost jumped in. He finally jumped up on the counter next to the tub and did some nose to nose sniffing. He seemed pretty interested about the whole thing. Maynard has never cared one way or the other about showers. But he does prefer me sitting on the toilet. And it makes a difference with the bare legs. As an experiment, I went into the bathroom and sit down with the lid down and pants on. He did not join me. Put up the seat and seat with pants down. Instant lap buddy. Weird! Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 07:56:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > Maynard has never cared one way or the other about showers. But he > does prefer me sitting on the toilet. And it makes a difference with > the bare legs. As an experiment, I went into the bathroom and sit down > with the lid down and pants on. He did not join me. Put up the seat > and seat with pants down. Instant lap buddy. Weird! You know, the *only* time Jacob *doesn't* want to be in my lap is when I'm in the bathroom. I think he's smarter than the other cats and knows that I'm using the 'litterbox'. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >circa 13 Feb 2004 07:56:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan >Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >when I'm in the bathroom. I think he's smarter than the other cats >and knows that I'm using the 'litterbox'. ;-) Kira used to be that way. She refused to come close enough for me to pick her up. Then, she changed. Now, she is just as pushy about being there as the others. She will defend her throne. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >Funnily enough, they are much more careful when I'm nekkid. They seem to >know the difference between flesh and clothing. Mine are usually very good. Most injuries happen when they are startled for some reason. A crash or loud noise. Being attacked by another cat while sitting in my lap. That kind of thing. As an example of their care, several years ago, I had to bathe my cat. She got into the garage and was pretty grungy. Nobody volunteered to help, so I was stuck doing it by myself. She had her claws on everything. She was grabbing at the faucet, the sink edge, the towel, the toothbrush holder, everything. Except me. I was the one doing this to her, and she was clearly freaked. Her claws were hooked onto the toothbrush holder. I had to pry her off. But she retracted her claws when she wrapped her paws around my arm. I found that I could hold my left arm out straight, and she would stand up in the sink with her front feet holding onto my arm (no claws), and I could wash her with me right hand. As long as my arm was there for her to hold, she stood calmly and let me do it. No struggling at all. A huge difference from the panic and attack of everything else within reach. I was really impressed. One, that she would trust me even when I was the one doing it to her. She obviously calmed down and let me do it. But also that she would intentionally retract her claws for me. I've only had to bathe her twice, so it doesn't come up much, but it left quite an impression on me, and not a bloody one :) Maynard will do the same thing too, but he isn't bothered by water unless it is on his head. So, it isn't as impressive with him. He is waterproof. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com circa 13 Feb 2004 07:50:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, > I found that I could hold my left arm out straight, and she would > stand up in the sink with her front feet holding onto my arm (no [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > unless it is on his head. So, it isn't as impressive with him. He is > waterproof. I can't even imagine. I think the last time I gave a cat a bath was when Jacob was a couple of months old. He's 16 now. <G> Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >circa 13 Feb 2004 07:50:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan >Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I can't even imagine. I think the last time I gave a cat a bath was >when Jacob was a couple of months old. He's 16 now. <G> Kira has had two baths. First was probably about 8 months old. The second one was probably in the next year. She is 11 now. Maynard has had 3 or 4 over the years, back when we used to do flea dips. We started treating the floors about 10 or 12 years ago, so we don't do those anymore. He's 17 1/2. And Chase is 3, no baths for him yet. We only do them when they are dirty and really do need a bath. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:37:32 GMT, Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote: >circa 13 Feb 2004 07:50:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Meghan >Noecker (friesian@zoocrewphoto.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I can't even imagine. I think the last time I gave a cat a bath was >when Jacob was a couple of months old. He's 16 now. <G> Kira has had two baths. First was probably about 8 months old. The second one was probably in the next year. She is 11 now. Maynard has had 3 or 4 over the years, back when we used to do flea dips. We started treating the floors about 10 or 12 years ago, so we don't do those anymore. He's 17 1/2. And Chase is 3, no baths for him yet. We only do them when they are dirty and really do need a bath. I used to have to bathe our part persian, Fluffernutter, from time to time. He had a really smooth tongue that just didn't quite do the job without occasional help. He'd be fine until he got to the shower doors. Then he'd grab the door and hang on for dear life (picturing brer rabbit "please don't throw me in that briar patch"). Once I got him in the tub and turned on the water he'd be fine until it was time to dry him off. Man was he gorgeous when it was done though. W.
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