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NHCatLover - 11 Feb 2004 21:38 GMT
My wife and I have been together for about 4 years and got married
about 9 months ago. She has had her cat for about 3.5 years so I have
always been around in the cats life. In fact for almost a year and a
half Zoomie (the cat) would let no one but me pick her up pr rub her
belly.

Zoomie and my wife moved into our new apartment about 4 months before
we got married then I moved in too. Zoomie was aloof at best for
several months but has recently started to come to me sometimes when I
call her. Every now an then she tells me she wants to be picked up and
I am able to hold her for a short time.

Here is the part I don't understand:

Zoomie will let me pet or hold her for a while. She will purr and
cuddle into me. Then suddenly, without any warning I can see she will
try to bite and scratch me and will hiss like a lizard.

Zoomie is declawed (not my idea) and I am usually faster then she is
so the biting and scratching does not bother me so much.. I just hate
to get her so upset.

Can anyone suggest a reason for the sudden turns in her behavior or
more importantly what can I do to help her feel more comfortable with
me>

Thanks in advance.
-Alex-
m. L. Briggs - 11 Feb 2004 21:56 GMT
>My wife and I have been together for about 4 years and got married
>about 9 months ago. She has had her cat for about 3.5 years so I have
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>Thanks in advance.
>-Alex-

If you find an answer to that one, please let me know.  All I can say
is watch her eyes!  When TuTu gets in that mood, she looks at me like
prey instead of meowmie.
Karen - 11 Feb 2004 22:29 GMT
> >My wife and I have been together for about 4 years and got married
> >about 9 months ago. She has had her cat for about 3.5 years so I have
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> is watch her eyes!  When TuTu gets in that mood, she looks at me like
> prey instead of meowmie.

Pearl is like this. I just put her down when it happens and ignore her
completely. For the most part, the behaviour has eventually way subsided.
It's in her nature and she cannot help it. You can just tell looking at her,
she can't help it, but over the year and a half I've had her by consistantly
just leaving her completely alone when her mood changes, I find that that
mood comes on less and less. Also, for the OP, you might consider carrying a
couple treats she likes in your pockets to distract her to a *good thing*
when you see the mood begin to change. I've gotten very good at seeing
Pearl's mood come on (there *are* indicators believe it or not, even if it
is just that when cuddling she suddenly stiffens up or stops purring; that
is the point where you put her down or get up or distract her with a toy or
food; it will help "change" or redirect the mood.)

Karen
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 03:41 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:29:17 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Karen (kchuplis@alltel.net) said,
> Pearl is like this. I just put her down when it happens and ignore her
> completely. For the most part, the behaviour has eventually way subsided.
> It's in her nature and she cannot help it. You can just tell looking at her,
> she can't help it, but over the year and a half I've had her by consistantly
> just leaving her completely alone when her mood changes, I find that that
> mood comes on less and less.

Absolutely! I did this with Alex, and by the time he died at 14, he
was a complete sweetheart. When I first got him when he was a year
old, however, he was a serious sumbitch. :-)

Laura
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Judy F - 11 Feb 2004 22:34 GMT
Sometimes you have to watch the cat for signs that they are about to bite. I
have an older cat who loves to sit on my lap and purrs, but if I get
distracted and just continue to pet her without watching her, she sometimes
bites me! When I do pay attention, I have noticed that after awhile she may
get restless, or start to stare at me or my hand. That's usually the sign to
stop petting immediately!
Judy F

> >My wife and I have been together for about 4 years and got married
> >about 9 months ago. She has had her cat for about 3.5 years so I have
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> is watch her eyes!  When TuTu gets in that mood, she looks at me like
> prey instead of meowmie.
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 23:25 GMT
> My wife and I have been together for about 4 years and got married
> about 9 months ago. She has had her cat for about 3.5 years so I have
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Thanks in advance.
> -Alex-

Zoomie... good name for a cat!, esp. one for who tends to zoom from place to
place to place, around the house.  Esp. when they get the "midnight (or
11:00 pm) crazies".  Zoom, zoom, zoom!  ;-)

Most cats seem to have different saturation points, before hauling off &
letting you have it.  First they're perfectly happy being petted, then they
will be ambivalent, then their tolerance disappears.

Look for subtle signs of the ambivalence: tail starting to flick, ears
starting to move back a bit, etc.

Cathy

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"Staccato signals of constant information..."
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Cheryl - 12 Feb 2004 03:04 GMT
on 11 Feb 2004:

> Look for subtle signs of the ambivalence: tail starting to flick, ears
> starting to move back a bit, etc.

Shamrock gets overstimulated and with everyone but me, he will turn his
head back to where he is being petted and have his mouth open.  With me, he
just bites. It doesn't take much with him regardless of who is doing the
petting, or whether he initiates it, or keeps begging for attention. It is
always sudden.

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Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 03:42 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:25:36 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,

> Most cats seem to have different saturation points, before hauling off &
> letting you have it.  First they're perfectly happy being petted, then they
> will be ambivalent, then their tolerance disappears.

Or in the case of my Jacob, until your arm falls off, there is no
excuse for you to not be petting him. :-)

Laura
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Mary - 12 Feb 2004 01:09 GMT
> Can anyone suggest a reason for the sudden turns in her behavior or
> more importantly what can I do to help her feel more comfortable with
> me>

Alex, declawed cats often develop aggressive behavior because they
feel helpless. (I don't have an agenda here, I actually did this to an
already agressive cat and watched her get worse.) For example, if I am
up in Cheeky's face too long, playing and poking and petting, her tail
starts to flip and she will actually extend a paw in front and the
claws come out just like in cartoons, one at a time, "ping ping ping!"
as a warning, I guess! LOL! Cats without claws are aware of the
mutilation of their front feet and overcompensate with hissing and
biting when they feel overstimulated or threatened in any way. Petting
bellies sometimes brings out an instinctual protection reaction in
some cats, too.
 
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