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Shaggin - 08 Feb 2004 05:59 GMT
I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it with
my dog just to see what he thought. He didn't even seem to notice it he just
kept running around with his tennis ball in his mouth ignoring the red dot.
I tried it for awhile but he just didn't seem to care. :)
Elizabeth Blake - 08 Feb 2004 07:36 GMT
> I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it with
> my dog just to see what he thought. He didn't even seem to notice it he just
> kept running around with his tennis ball in his mouth ignoring the red dot.
> I tried it for awhile but he just didn't seem to care. :)

My boss has two Yellow Labs and one of them, Lola, likes the laser pointer.
When I first got it I was moving it around on the floor and she was really
curious.  Duffy was standing nearby and I shone the laser on his leg, and
Lola went over and bit him.  He wasn't too happy about that.  Duffy either
didn't notice or didn't care about the little red dot.

My cat Tiger doesn't care for it at all either.  It's almost like she can't
even see it.  One time I had it shining on the floor about two feet in front
of her.  She got up to go into the kitchen and stopped short when she saw
it, then kept going.  That was the only time I ever got any kind of reaction
from her.  Otto will chase it until he drops.

Liz
Laura R. - 08 Feb 2004 07:50 GMT
circa Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:36:55 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Elizabeth Blake (poodlebone@NOSPAMearthlink.net) said,
> My boss has two Yellow Labs and one of them, Lola, likes the laser pointer.
> When I first got it I was moving it around on the floor and she was really
> curious.  Duffy was standing nearby and I shone the laser on his leg, and
> Lola went over and bit him.  He wasn't too happy about that.  Duffy either
> didn't notice or didn't care about the little red dot.

I've noticed that as soon as I shine the dot on another cat, the cat
(s) chasing it look confused, like they don't know what to do now
that the "prey" has landed on one of them. Ditto if I shine it on the
cat's paw. :-)

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GovtLawyer - 08 Feb 2004 15:31 GMT
>I've noticed that as soon as I shine the dot on another cat, the cat
>(s) chasing it look confused, like they don't know what to do now
>that the "prey" has landed on one of them.
My experience as well.  They chase it and go nuts, but temporarily freeze when
I put it on the others back.
Shaggin - 08 Feb 2004 18:51 GMT
> I've noticed that as soon as I shine the dot on another cat, the cat(s)
chasing it look confused, like they don't know what to do now that the
"prey" has landed on one of them. Ditto if I shine it on the cat's paw. :-)

If I shine the light on my cats side or paw they either bite at it or slowly
lift there paw trying to bat at it before it moves kind of like humans do to
fly's. If I shine it on there tail they run in circles trying to get it.:)
equalizer - 08 Feb 2004 15:13 GMT
>I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it with
>my dog just to see what he thought. He didn't even seem to notice it he just
>kept running around with his tennis ball in his mouth ignoring the red dot.
>I tried it for awhile but he just didn't seem to care. :)

I've had raccoons chasing it around the backyard just like a cat would.
Shaggin - 08 Feb 2004 18:49 GMT
> I've had raccoons chasing it around the backyard just like a cat would.

That is hysterical I would love to see that lol!
Alexandra - 10 Feb 2004 16:32 GMT
Hi!

I always read about laserpointers in here, and I am wondering, I
always use my old flash light for my cats to play. Is a laserpointer
better? I mean, as everyone seems to use them, could it be the flash
is harmful? I never thought about it till now.

I have to add I am not quite sure what a laserpointer is. Is it really
a laser?
Or just a little torch in "disguise"?

I live in Germany. Maybe it just havent come over yet.
Laura R. - 11 Feb 2004 03:30 GMT
circa 10 Feb 2004 08:32:08 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Alexandra (PurePhilomath@aol.com) said,
> Hi!
>
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>
> I live in Germany. Maybe it just havent come over yet.

Laser pointers are actual lasers. They make a very small,
concentrated dot that cats love. You don't want to shine them in the
cats' eyes because of the potential for damage due to the light's
intensity, but a couple of years back, I did some research and a
brief "oops" flash isn't likely to harm the cat. (Doesn't mean that
you shouldn't take care to not flash the eyes, but it's not cause for
screaming panic if you accidentally sweep it across the cat's line of
vision.)

A site about this:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/iyh/products/laser.html

As far as what they look like:

http://www.giftlinknet.com/items/87049.htm

And some guy's cat playing with one:

http://suberic.net/~kevin/photos/cats/kai.and.laser.pointer.1.jpeg

:-)

Laura

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William Hamblen - 11 Feb 2004 05:41 GMT
> Laser pointers are actual lasers. They make a very small,
> concentrated dot that cats love. You don't want to shine them in the
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> screaming panic if you accidentally sweep it across the cat's line of
> vision.)

The little keychain devices don't have much output (5 milliwatts maximum,
I think) and won't cause an injury if you accidentally flash yourself or
your kitty.  I wouldn't stare into it, though.
Alexandra - 11 Feb 2004 20:05 GMT
> > Laser pointers are actual lasers. They make a very small,
> > concentrated dot that cats love. You don't want to shine them in the
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> I think) and won't cause an injury if you accidentally flash yourself or
> your kitty.  I wouldn't stare into it, though.

Thanks!

Actually I ve seen one today! Just looked at the wrong shops. But at
that cost I think the old flash will do for a while longer ;)

Alex
Napoleon - 12 Feb 2004 04:01 GMT
> > > Laser pointers are actual lasers. They make a very small,
> > > concentrated dot that cats love. You don't want to shine them in the
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>
> Alex

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NHCatLover - 11 Feb 2004 21:47 GMT
> > Laser pointers are actual lasers. They make a very small,
> > concentrated dot that cats love. You don't want to shine them in the
> > cats' eyes because of the potential for damage due to the light's

In a study done a few years ago laser pointers from several
manufactures were activated and shined on living human retinas for
several seconds at a time. No measurable changed were noted. A sighted
person may notice a temporary dark area just because of neuron fatigue
after such an episode but it would be expected to resolve with in a
few minutes

I would not worry about incidental eye exposure at all.

Disclaimer
I am not a medical professional. Individual reactions to exposures
will vary depending on the specific parameters of each experience. For
definitive advice please seek the help of a qualified local
professional.
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:16 GMT
circa 11 Feb 2004 13:47:11 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
NHCatLover (alexsls@yahoo.com) said,

> In a study done a few years ago laser pointers from several
> manufactures were activated and shined on living human retinas for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I would not worry about incidental eye exposure at all.

Yup, that's what the link I posted says, too.

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Joe Canuck - 08 Feb 2004 15:34 GMT
> I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it with
> my dog just to see what he thought. He didn't even seem to notice it he just
> kept running around with his tennis ball in his mouth ignoring the red dot.
> I tried it for awhile but he just didn't seem to care. :)

Dogs are dumber than cats.  ;-)

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Priscilla Ballou - 08 Feb 2004 17:57 GMT
> > I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it with
> > my dog just to see what he thought. He didn't even seem to notice it he just
> > kept running around with his tennis ball in his mouth ignoring the red dot.
> > I tried it for awhile but he just didn't seem to care. :)
>
> Dogs are dumber than cats.  ;-)

Coming off watching part of the Nova on dogs last night on PBS, the
instinct to chase was probably bred out of Shaggin's breed of dog in
order to emphasize some other instinct.  What breed is he, Shaggin?

Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 08 Feb 2004 18:00 GMT
> > > I decided since my cats loved this laser pointer so much I would try it
> > > with
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> instinct to chase was probably bred out of Shaggin's breed of dog in
> order to emphasize some other instinct.  What breed is he, Shaggin?

Ay-yi-yi!  I shouldn't even attempt to write until my breakfast is
digested.  Let me rephrase.

Coming off watching part of the Nova on dogs last night on PBS, I think
that the instinct..... etc.

a shame-faced Priscilla
Shaggin - 09 Feb 2004 22:25 GMT
> Coming off watching part of the Nova on dogs last night on PBS, the
instinct to chase was probably bred out of Shaggin's breed of dog in order
to emphasize some other instinct.  What breed is he, Shaggin? Priscilla

He likes to play chase but in reference to your question he is a Boston
terrier.
Melinda Tennielle - 12 Feb 2004 03:22 GMT
I was lurking but wanted to add two quick laserpointer stories.

We have two cats. One, the young male, is very energetic and playful. He
loves the laserpointer (which we call the "laserbug"). He'll chase it
all over, and jump four or five feet up a wall to try and get it. When
he first sees the red dot, he begins to chatter like he's seeing a bird.
But what's really neat is this: now, if I just hold up the laserpointer
and say "what's this?" in a normal tone of voice, he starts to chatter!
He actually seems to recognize that the laserbug comes from that little
black stick!

Our other cat is big and fluffy and slow. She's not a big player.
However, she will go after the red dot if it's fairly close by. One
time, she was trying to pat it with her big paws. She'd smack the dot
with both paws at once, and for fun, I would turn the pointer off as
soon as she'd "caught" it. Then, she'd slooooowly turn both paws over
and look underneath for the smashed "laserbug"! It's too cute and
provides all kinds of entertainment.

M.
Cheryl - 12 Feb 2004 03:46 GMT
Melinda Tennielle wrote in news:m10tvc15-
424242.19222711022004@corp.supernews.com on 11 Feb 2004:

> She'd smack the dot
> with both paws at once, and for fun, I would turn the pointer off as
> soon as she'd "caught" it. Then, she'd slooooowly turn both paws over
> and look underneath for the smashed "laserbug"! It's too cute and
> provides all kinds of entertainment.

Ahhh!!  Too funny.  Thanks for sharing that visual!  :)

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Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:18 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:22:28 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Melinda Tennielle (m10tvc15@yahoo.com) said,
> She'd smack the dot
> with both paws at once, and for fun, I would turn the pointer off as
> soon as she'd "caught" it. Then, she'd slooooowly turn both paws over
> and look underneath for the smashed "laserbug"!

That's my favorite thing to do with a laser pointer. Well, except
maybe for running it the length of the room and laughing my head off
at the cats hauling a$$ to get to it. :-)

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Elizabeth Blake - 12 Feb 2004 04:19 GMT
> Our other cat is big and fluffy and slow. She's not a big player.
> However, she will go after the red dot if it's fairly close by. One
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> and look underneath for the smashed "laserbug"! It's too cute and
> provides all kinds of entertainment.

Stinky did that once when I finally let her "catch" the red dot.  She had
slammed one of her front paws down on the ground and thought she had it
trapped underneath.  She very slowly lifted the paw up and looked really
disappointed that the red dot wasn't squashed into the carpet.

Liz
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:48 GMT
circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:19:33 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Elizabeth Blake (poodlebone@NOSPAMearthlink.net) said,
> Stinky did that once when I finally let her "catch" the red dot.  She had
> slammed one of her front paws down on the ground and thought she had it
> trapped underneath.  She very slowly lifted the paw up and looked really
> disappointed that the red dot wasn't squashed into the carpet.

Jacob does that and then gets up to look under his belly in case the
dot escaped under there. <G>

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Rob - 18 Mar 2004 22:57 GMT
This is an older post but since I came across it, I thought I'd share as
well.  We have three cats, one female, age 6 could care less about the laser
pointer, the other two are brothers and about three years old and both go
nuts chasing the red dot.  While they don't leap up walls like they used to,
they still love it.  One of the guys absolutely knows the red dot is coming
from a pen.  Whenever he wants to play, he will go dig it out of the bowl we
keep it in on the coffee table and kick it around on the floor until one of
us notices and plays with him.

As for the poster being knocked out by the price (not that he'll ever read
this being that he posted a month ago,
you can get these things for like $5 at Target.

> I was lurking but wanted to add two quick laserpointer stories.
>
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>
> M.
IBen Getiner - 19 Mar 2004 10:26 GMT
> This is an older post but since I came across it, I thought I'd share as
> well.  We have three cats, one female, age 6 could care less about the laser
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> >
> > M.

A dog will figure it out right away that the dot is coming from the
pen. Catz are a little slower. Ours took a while. Now I think he just
pretends that it's for real! Sometimes he will go after it and other
times he won't. But at first, he always did.
Has anyone else noticed that their cat will 'pretend' during certain
situations? I guess it all goes back to that hunting instinct. They
shut reality out and imagine that it is some kind of fast wild running
quarry!

                              IBen G.

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