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Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 21:37 GMT
I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not
really eating.  Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her
started, but I really don't want to give her people food.  I bought
just one small jar of turkey to make sure she liked it and then I could
have some on hand, but then I got to wondering if it was good for her
with the CRF--too much protein.  I thought I'd ask here before calling
her old vet in CA.  We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
Wendy - 10 Feb 2004 22:13 GMT
Make sure there are no onions in the food.

W

I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not
really eating.  Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her
started, but I really don't want to give her people food.  I bought
just one small jar of turkey to make sure she liked it and then I could
have some on hand, but then I got to wondering if it was good for her
with the CRF--too much protein.  I thought I'd ask here before calling
her old vet in CA.  We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 22:17 GMT
Wendy <wendypart@nospam.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Make sure there are no onions in the food.

Nope, no onions.  Looks like turkey pudding.  Blech!
Cathy Friedmann - 10 Feb 2004 23:10 GMT
If a CRF cats isn't eating, baby food meat is better than nothing.  Another
thing to try is Hills Prescription diet a/d.

Cathy

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> I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not
> really eating.  Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> with the CRF--too much protein.  I thought I'd ask here before calling
> her old vet in CA.  We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 23:54 GMT
Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> If a CRF cats isn't eating, baby food meat is better than nothing.
>  Another thing to try is Hills Prescription diet a/d.
>
> Cathy

She laready is supposed to eat k/d, but she won't touch the wet food,
and uses the dry for nibbles.  She eats the Science Diet senior food
with the vet's blessing.  Has been doing great on it since diagnosed
just over 2 years ago.  We still aren't on sub-q, but will probably
start when I pick a new vet.  All I'm finding are little storefront
people with only 9-5 M-F hours.  I'd like to have some that go a little
later in the day or are open on Saturdays.  

Anyway, I bought the jar of baby food on impulse because it was on sale
and I was thinking about it.  She *really* likes it.  No dummy.  :)
Laura R. - 11 Feb 2004 03:00 GMT
circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:54:11 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Brandy??Alexandre (brandy@kamikaze.org?) said,
> She laready is supposed to eat k/d, but she won't touch the wet food,

Have you tried the new "minced" K/D? It only comes in the small cans,
but Jacob LOOOOVES it. He likes the pasty, goopy "pate" style too,
but not nearly as much as the minced. If you've not tried it, give it
a shot.

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Brandy??Alexandre - 11 Feb 2004 04:00 GMT
Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Have you tried the new "minced" K/D? It only comes in the small
> cans, but Jacob LOOOOVES it. He likes the pasty, goopy "pate"
> style too, but not nearly as much as the minced. If you've not
> tried it, give it a shot.
>
> Laura

Forget the pate, it's made mostly of liver and she HATES liver and HATE
pate.  I bought a can of the minced when it first came out and she
liked it initially, but wouldn't eat the leftovers.  She likes chunks
and gravy--sucks out all the gravy first and comes back to nibble the
chunks throughout the day.  Ground or minced varieties don't have the
same appeal.

That "turkey pudding," though.  She's in love and even pouted for a
while before eating her dinner thinking she could guilt me into more.  
I guess it's like nice firm gravy or something.

BTW, is there really baby food with onions in it?  Why?
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 04:27 GMT
> Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
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>
> BTW, is there really baby food with onions in it?  Why?

Yes.  In fact, I had to look a several jars of various baby food meats
before finding a couple of onion-fee ones for my cat.  Why onions are in
there, I don't know, myself.

Cathy

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Laura R. - 11 Feb 2004 06:53 GMT
circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:27:04 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
> Yes.  In fact, I had to look a several jars of various baby food meats
> before finding a couple of onion-fee ones for my cat.  Why onions are in
> there, I don't know, myself.

Flavor enhancement.

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Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 21:12 GMT
> circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:27:04 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> Flavor enhancement.

Well, yeah... but for babies?  Do they really care if onion flavor's in
there?  I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the adults (who have grown
accustomed to non-bland foods) who figure the onion needs to be in there,
esp. if other companies market the same meats, sans the onion, & yet they
sell.

Cathy

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> Laura
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Brandy??Alexandre - 11 Feb 2004 21:21 GMT
Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> Well, yeah... but for babies?  Do they really care if onion
> flavor's in there?  I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Cathy

Yeah, I can't imagine a baby being into onions.  I'm almost 40 and I'm
still not.

What's odd is that all this onion business and cats is how much of it
is going to be toxic.  Kami gets the gravy from my dinners and I don't
doubt there's onion there.  I've never seen any hint of it being bad.  
It this an onions are bad in the way that eating 4000 pounds of
saccharin over a week's time will give you cancer?
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:08 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:21:20 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Brandy??Alexandre (brandy@kamikaze.org?) said,
> Yeah, I can't imagine a baby being into onions.  I'm almost 40 and I'm
> still not.

There aren't enough onions in the baby food to make it taste like
onion- just enough to boost the natural flavor of the food. It's
similar to salt- salt in small amounts increases flavor. However,
it's not very P.C. to salt the sh.t out of baby food, I suspect.

> What's odd is that all this onion business and cats is how much of it
> is going to be toxic.  Kami gets the gravy from my dinners and I don't
> doubt there's onion there.  I've never seen any hint of it being bad.  
> It this an onions are bad in the way that eating 4000 pounds of
> saccharin over a week's time will give you cancer?

To a certain extent, yes:

http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349

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Brandy??Alexandre - 12 Feb 2004 04:15 GMT
Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> To a certain extent, yes:
>
> http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349
>
> Laura

Thanks.  I read the salient points and there is no risk in this
household as far as I can tell.  I will curb the access to my Healthy
Choice Meatloaf residuals, though.  LOL!
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:36 GMT
circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:08:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Laura R. (UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com) said,

> To a certain extent, yes:
>
> http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349

P.S. It's *definitely* not a huge amount that can have an effect, as
you'll see in the link, but it does seem to have more to do with
repeated feedings of onions than a single isolated incident of small
amount exposure.

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Brandy??Alexandre - 12 Feb 2004 06:24 GMT
Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:08:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Laura R. (UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Laura

A half percent of body weight would mean that for my 10 pound cat,
she'd have to eat 50 grams of onion, which is just under two-thirds of
an ounce (.64oz), per day for three days for toxicity.  Not bloody
likely.  :)  But if, by chance she managed it, this study did say they
recover rapidly with supportive care.  I'm not concerned.  I would know
if Kami had that much access to an onion given their scarcity in my
home.  I seem to recall her lapping up leftover and actually spitting
out a bit of onion.  I think the level of NO ONIONS chirped in this
newsgroup is a bit on the Henny Penny side.

She is a bit of the fiend for spicy Thai food, though.  I may have to
turn my attention the garlic.
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:05 GMT
circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:12:36 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,

> Well, yeah... but for babies?  Do they really care if onion flavor's in
> there?  I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the adults (who have grown
> accustomed to non-bland foods) who figure the onion needs to be in there,
> esp. if other companies market the same meats, sans the onion, & yet they
> sell.

Oh, no, they've done *serious* testing on babies. (I did consulting
work for Gerber some years back.) They research that kind of stuff
like you wouldn't believe.

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blkcatgal - 11 Feb 2004 00:14 GMT
My rule of thumb is to have the cat eat something, even baby food.  I
wouldn't make it a daily thing, though.  I fed my CRF kitty baby food when
he wouldn't eat his regular food.

Sue

> I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not
> really eating.  Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> with the CRF--too much protein.  I thought I'd ask here before calling
> her old vet in CA.  We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
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