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Baby food for CRF cat?
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Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 21:37 GMT I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not really eating. Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her started, but I really don't want to give her people food. I bought just one small jar of turkey to make sure she liked it and then I could have some on hand, but then I got to wondering if it was good for her with the CRF--too much protein. I thought I'd ask here before calling her old vet in CA. We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
Wendy - 10 Feb 2004 22:13 GMT Make sure there are no onions in the food.
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I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not really eating. Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her started, but I really don't want to give her people food. I bought just one small jar of turkey to make sure she liked it and then I could have some on hand, but then I got to wondering if it was good for her with the CRF--too much protein. I thought I'd ask here before calling her old vet in CA. We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet.
Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 22:17 GMT Wendy <wendypart@nospam.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Make sure there are no onions in the food. Nope, no onions. Looks like turkey pudding. Blech!
Cathy Friedmann - 10 Feb 2004 23:10 GMT If a CRF cats isn't eating, baby food meat is better than nothing. Another thing to try is Hills Prescription diet a/d.
Cathy
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> I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not > really eating. Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with the CRF--too much protein. I thought I'd ask here before calling > her old vet in CA. We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet. Brandy??Alexandre - 10 Feb 2004 23:54 GMT Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> If a CRF cats isn't eating, baby food meat is better than nothing. > Another thing to try is Hills Prescription diet a/d. > > Cathy She laready is supposed to eat k/d, but she won't touch the wet food, and uses the dry for nibbles. She eats the Science Diet senior food with the vet's blessing. Has been doing great on it since diagnosed just over 2 years ago. We still aren't on sub-q, but will probably start when I pick a new vet. All I'm finding are little storefront people with only 9-5 M-F hours. I'd like to have some that go a little later in the day or are open on Saturdays.
Anyway, I bought the jar of baby food on impulse because it was on sale and I was thinking about it. She *really* likes it. No dummy. :)
Laura R. - 11 Feb 2004 03:00 GMT circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:54:11 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Brandy??Alexandre (brandy@kamikaze.org?) said,
> She laready is supposed to eat k/d, but she won't touch the wet food, Have you tried the new "minced" K/D? It only comes in the small cans, but Jacob LOOOOVES it. He likes the pasty, goopy "pate" style too, but not nearly as much as the minced. If you've not tried it, give it a shot.
Laura
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Brandy??Alexandre - 11 Feb 2004 04:00 GMT Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Have you tried the new "minced" K/D? It only comes in the small > cans, but Jacob LOOOOVES it. He likes the pasty, goopy "pate" > style too, but not nearly as much as the minced. If you've not > tried it, give it a shot. > > Laura Forget the pate, it's made mostly of liver and she HATES liver and HATE pate. I bought a can of the minced when it first came out and she liked it initially, but wouldn't eat the leftovers. She likes chunks and gravy--sucks out all the gravy first and comes back to nibble the chunks throughout the day. Ground or minced varieties don't have the same appeal.
That "turkey pudding," though. She's in love and even pouted for a while before eating her dinner thinking she could guilt me into more. I guess it's like nice firm gravy or something.
BTW, is there really baby food with onions in it? Why?
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 04:27 GMT > Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > BTW, is there really baby food with onions in it? Why? Yes. In fact, I had to look a several jars of various baby food meats before finding a couple of onion-fee ones for my cat. Why onions are in there, I don't know, myself.
Cathy
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Laura R. - 11 Feb 2004 06:53 GMT circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:27:04 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
> Yes. In fact, I had to look a several jars of various baby food meats > before finding a couple of onion-fee ones for my cat. Why onions are in > there, I don't know, myself. Flavor enhancement.
Laura
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Cathy Friedmann - 11 Feb 2004 21:12 GMT > circa Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:27:04 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Flavor enhancement. Well, yeah... but for babies? Do they really care if onion flavor's in there? I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the adults (who have grown accustomed to non-bland foods) who figure the onion needs to be in there, esp. if other companies market the same meats, sans the onion, & yet they sell.
Cathy
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> Laura > -- > I am Dyslexia of Borg, > Your a.s will be laminated. Brandy??Alexandre - 11 Feb 2004 21:21 GMT Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Well, yeah... but for babies? Do they really care if onion > flavor's in there? I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cathy Yeah, I can't imagine a baby being into onions. I'm almost 40 and I'm still not.
What's odd is that all this onion business and cats is how much of it is going to be toxic. Kami gets the gravy from my dinners and I don't doubt there's onion there. I've never seen any hint of it being bad. It this an onions are bad in the way that eating 4000 pounds of saccharin over a week's time will give you cancer?
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:08 GMT circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:21:20 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Brandy??Alexandre (brandy@kamikaze.org?) said,
> Yeah, I can't imagine a baby being into onions. I'm almost 40 and I'm > still not. There aren't enough onions in the baby food to make it taste like onion- just enough to boost the natural flavor of the food. It's similar to salt- salt in small amounts increases flavor. However, it's not very P.C. to salt the sh.t out of baby food, I suspect.
> What's odd is that all this onion business and cats is how much of it > is going to be toxic. Kami gets the gravy from my dinners and I don't > doubt there's onion there. I've never seen any hint of it being bad. > It this an onions are bad in the way that eating 4000 pounds of > saccharin over a week's time will give you cancer? To a certain extent, yes:
http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349
Laura
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Brandy??Alexandre - 12 Feb 2004 04:15 GMT Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> To a certain extent, yes: > > http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349 > > Laura Thanks. I read the salient points and there is no risk in this household as far as I can tell. I will curb the access to my Healthy Choice Meatloaf residuals, though. LOL!
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:36 GMT circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:08:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Laura R. (UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com) said,
> To a certain extent, yes: > > http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_0801.pdf?docID=349 P.S. It's *definitely* not a huge amount that can have an effect, as you'll see in the link, but it does seem to have more to do with repeated feedings of onions than a single isolated incident of small amount exposure.
Laura
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Brandy??Alexandre - 12 Feb 2004 06:24 GMT Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> circa Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:08:15 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Laura R. (UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Laura A half percent of body weight would mean that for my 10 pound cat, she'd have to eat 50 grams of onion, which is just under two-thirds of an ounce (.64oz), per day for three days for toxicity. Not bloody likely. :) But if, by chance she managed it, this study did say they recover rapidly with supportive care. I'm not concerned. I would know if Kami had that much access to an onion given their scarcity in my home. I seem to recall her lapping up leftover and actually spitting out a bit of onion. I think the level of NO ONIONS chirped in this newsgroup is a bit on the Henny Penny side.
She is a bit of the fiend for spicy Thai food, though. I may have to turn my attention the garlic.
Laura R. - 12 Feb 2004 04:05 GMT circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:12:36 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
> Well, yeah... but for babies? Do they really care if onion flavor's in > there? I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the adults (who have grown > accustomed to non-bland foods) who figure the onion needs to be in there, > esp. if other companies market the same meats, sans the onion, & yet they > sell. Oh, no, they've done *serious* testing on babies. (I did consulting work for Gerber some years back.) They research that kind of stuff like you wouldn't believe.
Laura
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blkcatgal - 11 Feb 2004 00:14 GMT My rule of thumb is to have the cat eat something, even baby food. I wouldn't make it a daily thing, though. I fed my CRF kitty baby food when he wouldn't eat his regular food.
Sue
> I bought some baby food for Kami to entice her on the days she's not > really eating. Usually, if I give her something she likes it gets her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with the CRF--too much protein. I thought I'd ask here before calling > her old vet in CA. We haven't spotted a new clinic we like yet. Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory - 30 Jun 2008 08:37 GMT HOWEDY nooner,
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