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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2004Keep x-rays
I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. I'm not a lawyer but I would think that the x-rays are your property since you paid for them. -MIKE From my experience the vet owns the x-rays. It is like for most photographers where they own the negatives.  SignatureLarry > I'm not a lawyer but I would think that the x-rays are your property > since you paid for them. > > -MIKE >From my experience the vet owns the x-rays. It is like for most >photographers where they own the negatives. That's really odd. I've taken x-rays of my own out of the doctor's office to take to specialists and they just give them to me. Besides, the vet is not going to need them. Old x-rays are sometimes recycled for silver content, but that would be a pretty petty reason to want them back. Other than that, it sounds like a power struggle on the part of the vet's office. I am horrified that no expression of sympathy was made to the OP by the vet. Sherry circa 04 Feb 2004 04:14:00 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > Old x-rays are sometimes recycled for silver content, but that would be a > pretty petty reason to want them back. Other than that, it sounds like a power > struggle on the part of the vet's office. I am horrified that no expression of > sympathy was made to the OP by the vet. It could be that the x-rays are required for billing audits. (Proof that the x-rays were actually administered) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called >yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would >come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. >Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. >I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my >Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. You own the xrays. You don't have to give them back. As Bear is dead, what would be the point. Is there something on the xray that might make it seem like it was the vet's fault? I always ask for and keep xrays. As a matter of fact-the x-rays showed Bear had an enlarged heart and she also said he had an ashma like condition and should avoid dust, etc. But this was the day he died. He had been in for several problems starting in Sept. and I had quit letting him go outside. I had pointed out to the vet that he was breathing hard more than once but it was not checked out. I feel awful, still crying, feel guilty, I was so crazy about him. circa Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:30:45 -0600 (CST), in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Teddy (teddybearranch@webtv.net) said, > As a matter of fact-the x-rays showed Bear had an enlarged heart and she > also said he had an ashma like condition and should avoid dust, etc. But > this was the day he died. He had been in for several problems starting > in Sept. and I had quit letting him go outside. I had pointed out to the > vet that he was breathing hard more than once but it was not checked > out. I feel awful, still crying, feel guilty, I was so crazy about him. Please, please don't blame yourself. You have no cause for guilt, and it's only making this harder on you. It sounds to me like you went way over and above what was necessary in your quest to help your cat. Sometimes these things really do "just happen". I guarantee you, Bear died loving you and with no doubt that you loved him. Cats don't blame. You shouldn't either. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > circa Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:30:45 -0600 (CST), in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Teddy (teddybearranch@webtv.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Laura It's true these things can be hard to find until it is too late. YOu should not blame yourself! Karen >As a matter of fact-the x-rays showed Bear had an enlarged heart and she >also said he had an ashma like condition and should avoid dust, etc. But >this was the day he died. He had been in for several problems starting >in Sept. and I had quit letting him go outside. I had pointed out to the >vet that he was breathing hard more than once but it was not checked >out. I feel awful, still crying, feel guilty, I was so crazy about him. Don't blame yourself. You did everything. Labored breathing is a sign of congestive heart failure. Another sign of CHF is an enlarged heart. With CHF you can have asthma like symptoms because your lungs can fill with fluid because the heart can't pump well enough to get rid of it. Sometimes they treat it with an asthma inhaler. There is treatment for CHF. I personally believe your vet was trying to cover her behind. Perhaps she should have taken an xray sooner, seen the heart and treated for CHF. No one will ever know. You gave your cat a wonderful and loving life. He was very lucky to have you. Feb 2004: > I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called > yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would > come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. > Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. > I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my > Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. Interesting. I don't know how they regulate that stuff but I do know that when one of my cats was referred to a specialist and I had to bring copies of his records, the xrays could only be "borrowed" and I had to leave a refundable deposit to take them out of their office. That doesn't excuse the bedside manner of the vets wife. I'm sorry about Bear. :( SignatureCheryl Trapped like rats. In a chia-pet. MIB II > I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called > yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would > come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. > Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. > I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my > Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. No, that's assinine. There is no regulatory body that looks for the presence or absence of X-rays, unless there is some weird state law or something. We used to transfer them all the time. Sorry you lost your kitty. :( -L. >I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called >yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would >come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. >Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. >I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my >Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. NO, it does not make sense. I would be very suspicious because of the hostile attitude. Why whould she be so nasty about it, unless they had something to hide. I would NOT give them back, because of this. I would write a letter to the clinic stating that you feel they are your property, since you paid for them, and you wish to retain them. I would also be sure that I mentioned the poor tone of the wife as the reason why you will not be patronizing this office again. The purpose of the letter is for evidence in case this escalates. If she makes any trouble with your new vet, I would have the letter to show that she is the problem, not you. I am assuming that you will get a new vet since you have probably lost confidence in that office's ability to satisfy your requirements ;-) Sorry to hear that Bear didn't make it. She should have also expressed some level of sympathy. Not doing so was more than simply an oversight. >>I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called >>yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >would write a letter to the clinic stating that you feel they are your >property, since you paid for them, and you wish to retain them. Agreed. Better, just offer to return the x-rays along with the bill (without payment, of course) -- Alternatively, if they want you to pay for the x-rays, then you should keep them. > I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. The vets wife called > yesterday and demanded I bring them right back. She said someone would > come by there and check their x-rays and want to know where they were. > Does this make sense? I didn't intend to keep them but now I'm curious. > I just got their bill for $164. She didn't even say anything about my > Bear dying and I don't even feel like leaving the house. I'm very sorry for your loss. Why don't you ask this question on news:alt.med.veterinary ? 8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail) ~~~~~~ "I reserve the absolute right to be smarter today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson ************************************************* http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/ http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/ >I brought Bear's x-rays home a few days ago. >The vets wife called yesterday and demanded I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >even say anything about my Bear dying and I >don't even feel like leaving the house. X-rays are the property of the vet. (same with humans doctors) It's important for the office to keep them in case further treatment is needed. It is also a regulation. Being a member of AAHA ours do get checked every few years but as long as we have a release form it's no problem if those particular films aren't there and they don't/can't check them all. When we release them to the owner, for whatever reason, we have them sign a release form. That way if the client takes them and doesn't return them we have proof that we didn't lose them. If they take them to a specialist generally they (the specialist) will mail them back to us. But we have never called someone and demand that they return them. What's the point if the animal has expired as those films would be pulled anyway. The wife doesn't sound like a very compassionate person. Sorry about Bear. This is a very small town and there is only one other vets office in town. Years ago that one wouldn't believe me when I called and told them my female cat didn't feel good (she wantd to stay in my lap all day) and was dripping blood. That vet said some cats are not 'fastidious'. So I took her to the vet I use now who found she had a greatly enlarged, infected uterous. This vets wife doesn't know it but I have a set of silverware that was the first thing her daughter's grandmother bought with her first paycheck as a teenager. I was planning to give it to the grandaughter when she gets married. Now I feel like putting the silverware set in a garage sale. People have no idea how far- reaching their behavior goes. > This vets wife doesn't know it but I have a set of silverware that was > the first thing her daughter's grandmother bought with her first > paycheck as a teenager. I was planning to give it to the grandaughter > when she gets married. Now I feel like putting the silverware set in a > garage sale. People have no idea how far- reaching their behavior goes. I guess before you let all this get too bitter and make a very sad thing worse, maybe you could talk to her and find out why they need them? You might examine also why you want to hold on to them. This has been a very stressful time on you and I think with time things will feel more normal, but I would like to encourage dialogue with your vet since you have little vet choice in your town. You might even approach them in the angle that you are having trouble parting from the xrays because of your grief. If they are good people, they will talk to you and try to help. Karen I have already returned the x-rays. I never intended to keep them in the 1st place but got curious when I got the phone call from the vets wife. To clear things up: there are 2 vets there, the owner whose wife called me and the lady vet who has been treating my cats. |
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