Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2004
question: is my cat in heat?
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RW - 02 Feb 2004 07:55 GMT just wondering if i can get some advice. i will be taking cat to vet on tuesday (tomorrow) as today is a public holiday. but i thought i would post here to get some opinions in the meanwihle.
i'm not sure if my cat is in heat or not. here's the background: i have just adopted her 7 days ago, the lady she was with had her for about 8 months and said she never went into heat the whole time she was with her, and she had been going out (outdoor/indoor cat) frequently. we both then assumed she must have been sterilised. on the first day i got her i took her for a vet checkup and the vet said that she couldn't find any stitches so she must not be sterlised and for me to make an appointment. i didn t at the time because i was still convinced she had been sterlised. my undestanding was that cats who weren't sterilised and who were outdoor cats were very likely to become pregnant very easily (the lady i adopted from lives in a high cat traffic area, she has 8 strays that she has adopted from the streets). also, i've read that if a cat doesn't get pregnant, she's just going to keep going into heat all the time. which has not been the case, according to the lady i adopted from.
however yesterday arwen started displaying behaviour that *might* showshes in heat, but i've never seen a cat in heat first hand before so i'm not sure. shes rolled around on the floor, and went into bouts of very loud meowing. after the rolling, i got worried and went to look up cat behaviour on the internet and that's when it occurred to me she might be in heat. the thing is, i don't see any white discharge (from what i've read that's a symptom) and while there is increased appetite and a lot of face rubbing on furniture (also symptoms, based on what i've read online), there is no spraying, and the loud meowing isn't constant. it goes for about 5-10 minutes, and the rest of the time she's quiet for a long time, then starts up again for another short period. the meowing is like a very loud rrrooowrrrrooowrrrrroow, almost a yowl (but not a howl). there's also a lot of face rubbing - but she has done that since she got here, we thought she was trying to mark her territory. in fact, its really rather peaceful except for these occasional short spurts. this whole day from morning to afternoon she has been very quiet and sleeping. from what i've read its constant meowing that drives owners crazy (its just not very constant from i can tell), cat trying to escape,etc. in fact, i'm torn between
here's my question: is she ill? or is it possible she really is not sterilised and has gone not being in heat for so long (8 months plus) and is in heat now? or has she always been in and out of heat, but because her symptoms are "quieter" the lady i adopted from missed them (i really think this is unlikely)? other than the meowing and face rubbing, a rather big appetite, and the sudden onset of floor rolling (this happened once last night, and has not happened once the whole of today), she seems to be fine. i've only had her seven days so i don't know the fine points of abnormal behaviour for her though. if she is in heat, my husband and i are wondering if she has been in heat these whole 7 days (face rubbing and occasional loud meowing was there the moment she got here, but rolling was yesterday only) and we didn't realize it. is there such thing as cats having a "quiet" heat?
anyway, tomorrow we are taking her to have her eye looked at again (infection, had received ointment but not improving) and sterilised if heat is confirmed.
Laura R. - 02 Feb 2004 08:01 GMT circa 1 Feb 2004 23:55:44 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, RW (newmarr@hotmail.com) said,
> just wondering if i can get some advice. i will be taking cat to vet > on tuesday (tomorrow) [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > (infection, had received ointment but not improving) and sterilised if > heat is confirmed. She is in heat.
Laura
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Alison - 02 Feb 2004 17:45 GMT > just wondering if i can get some advice. i will be taking cat to vet > on tuesday (tomorrow) [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > heat all the time. which has not been the case, according to the lady > i adopted from. Hi , Have you any idea how old the cat is ? My cat Kim was a stray and in a bad way when I adopted her and the vet said she was about 18 months . She couldn't find a scar from spaying and suggested she be spayed straight away, but as she was in poor condition I said no. She also said if the Kim wasn't previously spayed she would more than likely be pregnant or become pregnant, as this was in July /August . She never became pregnant and I assume she was spayed as it's rare for cats to be infertile. Alison
Yngver - 02 Feb 2004 19:05 GMT >Hi , > Have you any idea how old the cat is ? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >this was in July /August . She never became pregnant and I assume she >was spayed as it's rare for cats to be infertile. We adopted a stray cat estimated to be about two years old. She was so emaciated I thought she may have just had kittens somewhere; however when the vet examined her he said he didn't think she had ever been pregnant. He also said she had not been spayed; we had her spayed a few days later so obviously they would have discovered during surgery if she had not been spayed.
It is still a mystery to me how a cat could have been wandering around outdoors (by her condition she had obviously been outdoors for a while, and was probably an indoor/outdoor cat) for a long time, reach the age of two or so, be unspayed and never become pregnant. Although you say infertility is rare, does it sound as though this may have been the case here?
Mary - 02 Feb 2004 18:53 GMT I don't think they can spay here WHILE she is in heat, but I might be wrong. You might have to just ride this one out and get her spayed when it is over, but the vet will tell you.
As for telling when she is in heat, it is hard to miss. Rolling around, yowling, sticking her little butt up in the air and making little Zsa Zsa Gabor faces at you like "Oooo baby, give it to me" is what my girl used to do.
RW - 03 Feb 2004 00:53 GMT > I don't think they can spay here WHILE she is in heat, but I might be > wrong. You might have to just ride this one out and get her spayed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > little Zsa Zsa Gabor faces at you like "Oooo baby, give it to me" is > what my girl used to do. OK i'm going to vet in an hour's time, but as an update, she acted perfectly normal the whole of yesterday. i.e. NO meowing at all, no rolling (this means the rolling only happened once, the night before), no treading, raised butt. in fact, yesterday she was the *quietest* she has been in the whole 7 (now 8) days she has been here! also she seems to have eaten less.. so maybe she is ill now... she really can't possibly be in heat now (i think, but i'm quite sure), as i'm looking at her. she's just perfectly calm, walking around the apartment.
to those who asked how old she is, at the first vet appointment the vet estimated that she could be up to 3 years old. based on her teeth condition (lack of plaque) vet said she could be about 1 year, but because of her temperament (calm, mature) she just seemed like an older cat to the vet.
Mary - 03 Feb 2004 05:02 GMT > OK i'm going to vet in an hour's time, but as an update, she acted > perfectly normal the whole of yesterday. i.e. NO meowing at all, no > rolling (this means the rolling only happened once, the night before), > no treading, raised butt. in fact, yesterday she was the *quietest* > she has been in the whole 7 (now 8) days she has been here! also she > seems to have eaten less.. so maybe she is ill now... oh gosh I hope not.
she really can't
> possibly be in heat now (i think, but i'm quite sure), as i'm looking > at her. she's just perfectly calm, walking around the apartment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > because of her temperament (calm, mature) she just seemed like an > older cat to the vet. Please let us know how it goes.
RW - 04 Feb 2004 15:23 GMT > Please let us know how it goes. hi there, as an update, brought arwen into see vet, vet shaved tummy to double check for signs of sterilisation. we couldn't find anything. i left her for sterilisation (yesterday) and had her back this morning. also switched medication for her infected eye to antibiotics and she has been back with us for about 12 hours now. she is fine. vet said that cat was indeed in full-blown heat when she operated. my colleague also told me that perhaps arwen's one-day heat symptoms followed by one-day nothing were because she was in the very initial stages of heat, and the symptoms would have come back a few days later.
Laura R. - 04 Feb 2004 16:13 GMT circa 4 Feb 2004 07:23:51 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, RW (newmarr@hotmail.com) said,
> > Please let us know how it goes. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > stages of heat, and the symptoms would have come back a few days > later. I thought so. Some cats can have very "quiet" heats for years, then graduate to full-blown, vocal estrus.
Laura
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