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Cat just diagnosed with Feline Leukemia - info/resources requested

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Dave - 29 Jan 2004 16:38 GMT
We took our 11/2 year-old  male, sweetheart of a cat in to the vet because
he was lethargic, and the vet diagnosed auto-immune anemia. Further testing
showed that he had an 11% red blood cell volume (normal is 35-50%) and is
positive for Feline Leukemia.

Oh boy...

We've decided to give him the best chance he can have to get back on his
feet and keep him with us for as long as we can. So, he had a blood
transfusion last night and for the next few weeks he's been prescribed
steroids and antibiotics, as well as Felovite vitamins. In a week he'll get
another blood test and we'll see how he's doing.

We CAN'T loose this cat, period.

So, I would appreciate it if you folks could point me to some info/resources
on getting him past this anemia and making his life with leukemia as healthy
and long a one as we possibly can. There's a ton of stuff out there (I know,
I've been digging through it) but it's hard to tell what info is current and
reliable. Has anyone had any luck with supplements/medication that we can
give him to help him fight the virus (our vet is looking into getting him on
Interferon)? Are there any diet changes that can help? He doesn't like the
Felovite, are there any other options for getting him his vitamins? Anything
else I'm missing?

Many thanks,

Dave
Chris - 31 Jan 2004 04:53 GMT
Try the Cornell University site.. they have pretty good medical info...
There is also a Yahoo FELV+ group where members seem to share contacts &
experience...
Also, just in case, make sure your cat had both the Elissa test (done right
in the office) and the IFA test (bloodwork sent out to lab).  Was he an
indoor-outdoor cat?  As I understand adult cats can only contract Leukemia
from prolonged exposure to other FELV+ cat...

> We took our 11/2 year-old  male, sweetheart of a cat in to the vet because
> he was lethargic, and the vet diagnosed auto-immune anemia. Further testing
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>
> Dave
Dave - 31 Jan 2004 17:14 GMT
> Try the Cornell University site.. they have pretty good medical info...
> There is also a Yahoo FELV+ group where members seem to share contacts &
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> indoor-outdoor cat?  As I understand adult cats can only contract Leukemia
> from prolonged exposure to other FELV+ cat...

Thanks. I've been to the Cornell site, but hadn't heard about the Yahoo
group. I'll give it a try.

He's an indoor cat and has tested positive with both tests, even though he
tested negative when we got him as a kitten and has not been exposed to an
FELV+ cat since then. The vet thinks that he'd been exposed at the shelter
and had not developed enough antibodies to test positive at that time.

Thanks again,

Dave
Phil P - 31 Jan 2004 22:51 GMT
> He's an indoor cat and has tested positive with both tests, even though he
> tested negative when we got him as a kitten and has not been exposed to an
> FELV+ cat since then.

The vet thinks that he'd been exposed at the shelter
> and had not developed enough antibodies to test positive at that time

Where did your vet get his DVM?  -- an ad on a matchbook cover from a scam
company that sells bogus university degrees by mail from Bangladesh???
Tests for FeLV test for *antigen* not antibodies!!!

This is FeLV 101....and one of worst examples of incompetency that I've ever
seen in  >40 years of animal rescue!

*Please* find a new vet!  *Quick* if not sooner!
JG - 31 Jan 2004 15:11 GMT
> We took our 11/2 year-old  male, sweetheart of a cat in to the vet because
> he was lethargic, and the vet diagnosed auto-immune anemia. Further testing
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>
> Dave

You say positive for feline leukemia, but I suspect what you mean is
positive for feline leukemia virus.  As another poster suggested, it's a
good idea to have the cat rechecked, both with the ELISA and IFA test.  I
had a kitten test positive, then negative; but if your cat has such serious
clinical signs, I wouldn't be optimistic for a reversal.  Another thing to
consider is getting a referral to a specialist in the area if possible (I've
gone to the Animal Medical Center in New York and local specialist
practices); sometimes this is a tradeoff between the stress on the cat of
traveling what may be a considerable distance to see the specialist and the
value of the specialist itself.

There's a lot of information available on FeLV on the Web and elsewhere;
another site is:
http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/health/FeLV.html

Good luck.

JA Golczewski, Ph.D.
http://users.rcn.com/jigo/jg.HTM
Updates, free book on health and life-extension
Phil P - 31 Jan 2004 22:50 GMT
> We took our 11/2 year-old  male, sweetheart of a cat in to the vet because
> he was lethargic, and the vet diagnosed auto-immune anemia. Further testing
> showed that he had an 11% red blood cell volume (normal is 35-50%) and is
> positive for Feline Leukemia.

Have your cat tested for Hemobartonella felis. --  H. felis is a parasite
that attaches itself to surface of RBCs and shortens the life of the RBCs --
but far more damage is caused to the RBCs by the cat's intense immune
response to the parasite attached to the cell than by the parasite itself.
Haemobartonel?losis is associated with an increased incidence of FeLV
infection.  So its possible that the parasite reduced your cat's resistance
to FeLV and permitted an infection that the cat may have otherwise resisted
or allow a latent infection to re-emerge and initiate persistent, or
hopefully, only transient viremia. OTOH, FeLV can suppress the cat's normal
immune response - so FeLV might increase the cat's susceptibility to
haemobartonellosis or even convert a latent H. felis infection into a
full-blown disease.

You should have the test run at least four times on four consecutive days
because H. felis parasitemia is cyclic - IOW, the parasite can disappear and
reappear in the blood sometimes in as little as 2 hours or less... Also, its
absolutely essential that your vet uses *fresh* blood for the tests and
prepares the smears right away because the parasite usually detaches itself
from RBCs in refrigerated anticoagulated blood and in vitro.  Bad timing
and/or improperly collected and stored blood will lead to false negative
results in an infected cat.  Tests results will also turn out negative if
the tests are run after you begin treatment because the parasites disappear
from the blood while the cat is being treated with tetracyclines.  Thus the
test can't be used to monitor therapy.

> Oh boy...
>
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> give him to help him fight the virus (our vet is looking into getting him on
> Interferon)?

If you go with interferon, I'd go with daily high-dose parenteral r-HuIFN-a
preceeded by transfusions for a month as the initial therapy rather than the
low-dose PO 7 on/7 off protocol.  Transfusions will reduce the viral
oad  -- and even a temporary reduction in the viral load might allow the
cat's immune system to mount a stronger and more effective response.   When
the results are good, they're very good!  We have a few FeLV cats still
going strong >6 years post IFA+!

Best of luck,

Phil
Mary - 02 Feb 2004 17:45 GMT
>Has anyone had any luck with supplements/medication that we can
>give him to help him fight the virus (our vet is looking into getting him on
>Interferon)? Are there any diet changes that can help? He doesn't like the
>Felovite, are there any other options for getting him his vitamins? Anything
>else I'm missing?

My cat Mimi was FLV+ I gave her interferon. Some also give immunoglobulin (sp?)
for FLV. When she wasn't eating, I gave her Nutrical gel. Some also give
T-factor capsules. Just make sure it's not the AVES t-factor which is a total
scam. Lots of love, a low stress environment, proper nutrition and he will do
much better. My Mimi cleared the FLV.
Chris - 03 Feb 2004 02:14 GMT
What do you mean "my mimi 'cleared' the FLV?
> >Has anyone had any luck with supplements/medication that we can
> >give him to help him fight the virus (our vet is looking into getting him on
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> scam. Lots of love, a low stress environment, proper nutrition and he will do
> much better. My Mimi cleared the FLV.
Laura R. - 03 Feb 2004 02:53 GMT
circa Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:14:53 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Chris (tisme@mindspring.com) said,
> What do you mean "my mimi 'cleared' the FLV?

Most likely, that Mimi tested positive at one point and later tested
negative.

Laura
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Dave - 08 Feb 2004 23:45 GMT
Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and playing and
picking on his sister again. I don't want to jinx the recovery, but I think
we're gonna get to keep him (or visa versa) for a while longer. He's on a
steroid and has started Interferon. We'll take him in for some blood work
next week to see how his red cell count is doing.

Here're some photos from last week:
http://www.amazon.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?showSlide=true&Uc=2e2r5yj.9ut7b
kgv&Uy=r1n3ro&Upost_signin=BrowsePhotos.jsp%3FshowSlide%3Dtrue&Ux=0

Thanks for the info and advice.

Dave
Laura R. - 09 Feb 2004 03:20 GMT
circa Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:45:26 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Dave (webkatz@eudoramail.com) said,

> Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and playing and
> picking on his sister again. I don't want to jinx the recovery, but I think
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>
> Thanks for the info and advice.

I love the pictures with the paper bag; good luck with your pretty
boy!

Laura
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Karen Chuplis - 09 Feb 2004 03:34 GMT
> Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and playing and
> picking on his sister again. I don't want to jinx the recovery, but I think
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>
> Dave

What adorable pictures. I sure hope that his recovery continues.

Karen
MacCandace - 09 Feb 2004 03:55 GMT
<< Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and playing and
picking on his sister again. >>

Great news!  Good luck, may you have many more years together.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Cheryl - 10 Feb 2004 02:58 GMT
> Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and playing and
> picking on his sister again. I don't want to jinx the recovery, but I think
> we're gonna get to keep him (or visa versa) for a while longer. He's on a
> steroid and has started Interferon. We'll take him in for some blood work
> next week to see how his red cell count is doing.

Good to hear!  If I may ask, and I think I missed some of what his
symptoms are, but why were steroids prescribed?

> Here're some photos from last week:

http://www.amazon.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?showSlide=true&Uc=2e2r5yj
.9ut7b
> kgv&Uy=r1n3ro&Upost_signin=BrowsePhotos.jsp%3FshowSlide%3Dtrue&Ux=0

He is a gorgeous kitty.  Best wishes for you all.
Dave - 10 Feb 2004 15:02 GMT
> > Just an update - our boy is doing much better. He's eating and
>  playing and
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> Good to hear!  If I may ask, and I think I missed some of what his
> symptoms are, but why were steroids prescribed?

Thanks. My understanding is that the 'roids are to perk up his
appetite and energy levels. They sure seems to be working.
Dave - 16 Feb 2004 18:10 GMT
Update - his blood tests on Friday showed that he had a 12% red blood cell
volume, so he went in for his second tranfusion on Saturday.

His post-tranfusion numbers showed only 14%  red blood cell volume. So much
for the transfusion :(

The test also showed that his body is producing new RBCs and that the
steriods he's on are keeping his immune system from destroying them. And he
gained a 10th of a pound :)

The vet is now suggesting 125mg of vitamine C twice a day.

So it goes,

Dave
Karen - 16 Feb 2004 19:53 GMT
Well, it could be worse. Keep us posted. We are rooting for him and you.

Karen

> Update - his blood tests on Friday showed that he had a 12% red blood cell
> volume, so he went in for his second tranfusion on Saturday.
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>
> Dave
Dave - 29 Feb 2004 23:59 GMT
Update - thanks for all the kind words and good advice. Our boy is back from
the vet after our vacation and seems to be doing fine except for not being
very interested in eating. He has always been  little chow hound, so this is
a bad thing. We've tried everything for food, and (of the few things he
likes) he likes Tender Vittles of all things. But he's not eating enough.

Any ideas?

TIA,

Dave
MacCandace - 01 Mar 2004 01:51 GMT
<< But he's not eating enough.

Any ideas?

TIA,

Dave >>

I have a kitty right now who isn't eating much but he's 18 and I'm afraid he is
getting close to his time.  But...he takes cyrpoheptadine, which is an appetite
stimulant. and that generally works.  Ask your vet.  It doesn't have many side
effects but it does make my cat a little hyper so I don't really like to give
it to him but, when he's not eating, it's necessary.  Also baby food works
sometimes (without onions) as does warming the food a little so the scent is
stronger.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Meghan Noecker - 01 Mar 2004 06:27 GMT
>I have a kitty right now who isn't eating much but he's 18 and I'm afraid he is
>getting close to his time.  But...he takes cyrpoheptadine, which is an appetite
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>sometimes (without onions) as does warming the food a little so the scent is
>stronger.

Another good trick is to take a little of the food and put on their
paw. They have to lick it to get it off, and once they get some, they
may be enticed to eat a bit more.

Meghan & the Zoo Crew  
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com
Dave - 02 Mar 2004 16:47 GMT
The baby food seems to be working. Thanks!
chester hodges - 14 Apr 2005 15:19 GMT
Dave,

My cat's symptoms were (are) very similar to your cat's. Though mine also
started vomiting everyday. The vet thought it was leukemia or pancreatitis.
Had an ultrasound done, and it's lymphoma. (there was a mass in her
stomach. She was put on prednisone (steroid) which helped her a lot
symptomatically. But it is a self limiting therapy. It only works for a
month or 6wks and then the cat will start to feel bad again. My cat is
having chemotherapy treatment and doing well. (recent ultrasound revealed
the mass was undetectable). They stopped the steroid last week.
I tell you all this to let you know that your cat may be feeling better
because of the steroid, but if there's a chance that he's been
misdiagnosed, he will start to decline soon. Diagnostic ultrasound may
reveal more. Also, leukemia and lymphoma are quite often seen together. My
cat doesn't have leukemia.
Just some info I've garnered during me  experience with my cat.
Good luck to you and your cat.
Karen - 01 Mar 2004 16:17 GMT
Is he interested in catnip at all? If so, maybe sprinkling a bit on his
food? Or getting an appetite stimulant from the vet might be an option? I'd
also opt to syringe a bit of a/d down him for extra calories.

Karen

> Update - thanks for all the kind words and good advice. Our boy is back from
> the vet after our vacation and seems to be doing fine except for not being
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>
> Dave
 
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