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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2004Help...my cats are fat!
I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with plenty of access to food. They are both equally large, so nobody is eating the others food, they are indoor only cats, so I know it can be hard for them to get exercise. Both weigh ~16lbs and have quite a tummy on them. I have taken them to the vet, and there is no physical reason for them so be so large, they just want to eat all the time. They have plenty of access to water and love the new "kitty drinking fountain" I got them. Rukus will eat moist food, and Revey will not. Currently I am feeding them Purina One weight management. I feed them 3/4c in the morning, and 3/4c before bed or else they are meowing at my door all night long. I have to feed them in meals rather than free choice even though the cat food bag says not to because otherwise they will eat it all at once. Case in point: I left for a four day trip two weeks ago and left them five days worth of food. I left on a Sat morning, my boyfriend came to check on them Sun evening and ALL the food was gone. How can I get them to be less hungry? Is there any low-cal "filler" foods that they might like to eat (other than pumpkin, tried that and didnt work). How can I get my kitties healthy weights again? I cant afford the $20 a 7lb bag diet food at the vets. I think they just like to crunch and eat, can I feed them a crappy food that they need more of? Any suggestions? Thanks!! Brandi It's pretty simple - they are eating too many calories and not exercising enough. Get them some toys or a laser light. Get them to chase some string. What ever it takes to get them to be more active. Maybe a cat tree for them to climb. Cut back on the food gradually. You want them to lose slowly. Yes they are going to protest. Yes they are going to beg. You could try cutting back on how much they get in the morning so they aren't begging over night when you're trying to sleep. I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with plenty of access to food. They are both equally large, so nobody is eating the others food, they are indoor only cats, so I know it can be hard for them to get exercise. Both weigh ~16lbs and have quite a tummy on them. I have taken them to the vet, and there is no physical reason for them so be so large, they just want to eat all the time. They have plenty of access to water and love the new "kitty drinking fountain" I got them. Rukus will eat moist food, and Revey will not. Currently I am feeding them Purina One weight management. I feed them 3/4c in the morning, and 3/4c before bed or else they are meowing at my door all night long. I have to feed them in meals rather than free choice even though the cat food bag says not to because otherwise they will eat it all at once. Case in point: I left for a four day trip two weeks ago and left them five days worth of food. I left on a Sat morning, my boyfriend came to check on them Sun evening and ALL the food was gone. How can I get them to be less hungry? Is there any low-cal "filler" foods that they might like to eat (other than pumpkin, tried that and didnt work). How can I get my kitties healthy weights again? I cant afford the $20 a 7lb bag diet food at the vets. I think they just like to crunch and eat, can I feed them a crappy food that they need more of? Any suggestions? Thanks!! Brandi I would switch to wet,too, since you do not free feed anyway. They will lose weight more readily and be less hungry. Karen > It's pretty simple - they are eating too many calories and not exercising > enough. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Brandi Did you ever wonder if sometimes they eat because they are bored? I've had cats beg for food when I know they couldn't be hungry because they just ate. I would switch to wet,too, since you do not free feed anyway. They will lose weight more readily and be less hungry. Karen > It's pretty simple - they are eating too many calories and not exercising > enough. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > "B LaVack" <lavack@bla.bla> wrote in message news:4018015B.60602@bla.bla... > I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby > was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Brandi Well my cat Virgo is 22lbs! The size of a small bulldog and acts like one too. Doctor just told me she gets only 3/4cup of dry per day to lose weight and to split it into 3 or 4 small servings throughout the day. It is working as far as her being hungry and begging because she is not at all. I also switched to light food. My cats only get wet as a treat every week. Because they have always eaten dry their teeth are in superb condition. D -- Believe nothing because a wise man said it. Believe nothing because it is generally held. Believe nothing because it is written. Believe nothing because it is said to be divine. Believe nothing because someone else believes it. But believe only what you yourself judge to be true. -- Gautama Buddha > I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby > was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Brandi >From: "D" favouriteslave@adelphia.net >Well my cat Virgo is 22lbs! The size of a small bulldog and acts like one >too. They recently completed a 14 year study (this one was done with dogs) that concluded that the ones who were on the thin side actually lived longer than their well-fed counterparts. >Doctor just told me she gets only 3/4cup of dry per day to lose weight >and to split it into 3 or 4 small servings throughout the day. It is >working as far as her being hungry and begging because she is not at all. I >also switched to light food. " The Joke about "Lite" Diets So, your pet is overweight. How did that happen anyway? There is really no mystery here. Too many calories, too little activity. Wait! The fix is right here in the bag marked, "Lite and Fit". Right? Doubtful at best. Since the advent of these "Lite" diets, has there been a decrease in the number of overweight pets? Hmmmm... These are major profit centers for the makers. They contain less meat and fat (the costlier) ingredients and more (much) of the grains and fillers to reduce the number of calories. Then, guess what? You get to pay more! Guess what again? Your pet won't lose weight! Fact is, your pet will feel even less like moving around with a belly full of chaff than formerly with another diet. Don't buy into this ruse. It is much better to feed a good food in the amount sufficient to provide the calories for the desired body weight and to INCREASE the activity level by 300%. You've heard it said, "Diet without exercise doesn't work". That's true for pets as well." >My cats only get wet as a treat every week. >Because they have always eaten dry their teeth are in superb condition. "Nature didn't intend for pets to eat dry food devoid of enzymes. Convenience is paid for in reduced pet health. Where is it written that your pet's bowl has to be filled with chalk dry nuggets of quasi-nutritious ground up brown stuff? We've been sold on a bad idea. We bought it because it made life easier. Until the real bill comes, that is. But doesn't kibbled food make their teeth shiny and their breath fresh? Won't their teeth fall out if they eat soft stuff? Yeah, right. Ever watch your dog eat? Does it look like some kind of teeth cleaning exercise? How about the cat? Really getting the old gum line clean huh? The truth about teeth cleaning is this... sticks, rocks, yarn, bones, toys and saliva primarily accomplish this task, not food. Commercial pet food has to be flavor enhanced with digest and sprayed-on fat to be even remotely attractive to your pet. Without these palatability modifications, the old dry kibble would just sit there and get dusty. People get paid big money to invent coatings to make your pet dive headfirst into the food bowl. Because then you smile and feel like it must be healthy and that Fifi loves the food and you too so you'll buy it again. Right? Remember, the fox didn't go in search of a crunchy rabbit. It ate the soft one and it has a dazzling smile and a fully charged pancreas." Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Tiggy gained weight on the light food. She finally lost when we cut back the portion size of the "regular" stuff. >From: "D" favouriteslave@adelphia.net >Well my cat Virgo is 22lbs! The size of a small bulldog and acts like one >too. They recently completed a 14 year study (this one was done with dogs) that concluded that the ones who were on the thin side actually lived longer than their well-fed counterparts. >Doctor just told me she gets only 3/4cup of dry per day to lose weight >and to split it into 3 or 4 small servings throughout the day. It is >working as far as her being hungry and begging because she is not at all. I >also switched to light food. " The Joke about "Lite" Diets So, your pet is overweight. How did that happen anyway? There is really no mystery here. Too many calories, too little activity. Wait! The fix is right here in the bag marked, "Lite and Fit". Right? Doubtful at best. Since the advent of these "Lite" diets, has there been a decrease in the number of overweight pets? Hmmmm... These are major profit centers for the makers. They contain less meat and fat (the costlier) ingredients and more (much) of the grains and fillers to reduce the number of calories. Then, guess what? You get to pay more! Guess what again? Your pet won't lose weight! Fact is, your pet will feel even less like moving around with a belly full of chaff than formerly with another diet. Don't buy into this ruse. It is much better to feed a good food in the amount sufficient to provide the calories for the desired body weight and to INCREASE the activity level by 300%. You've heard it said, "Diet without exercise doesn't work". That's true for pets as well." >My cats only get wet as a treat every week. >Because they have always eaten dry their teeth are in superb condition. "Nature didn't intend for pets to eat dry food devoid of enzymes. Convenience is paid for in reduced pet health. Where is it written that your pet's bowl has to be filled with chalk dry nuggets of quasi-nutritious ground up brown stuff? We've been sold on a bad idea. We bought it because it made life easier. Until the real bill comes, that is. But doesn't kibbled food make their teeth shiny and their breath fresh? Won't their teeth fall out if they eat soft stuff? Yeah, right. Ever watch your dog eat? Does it look like some kind of teeth cleaning exercise? How about the cat? Really getting the old gum line clean huh? The truth about teeth cleaning is this... sticks, rocks, yarn, bones, toys and saliva primarily accomplish this task, not food. Commercial pet food has to be flavor enhanced with digest and sprayed-on fat to be even remotely attractive to your pet. Without these palatability modifications, the old dry kibble would just sit there and get dusty. People get paid big money to invent coatings to make your pet dive headfirst into the food bowl. Because then you smile and feel like it must be healthy and that Fifi loves the food and you too so you'll buy it again. Right? Remember, the fox didn't go in search of a crunchy rabbit. It ate the soft one and it has a dazzling smile and a fully charged pancreas." Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby > was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with > plenty of access to food. They are both equally large, so nobody is > eating the others food, they are indoor only cats, so I know it can be > hard for them to get exercise. Both weigh ~16lbs and have quite a tummy > on them. Gee....Xena is 15.5lb and the Vet only says that she is fine, just a large cat! I am always concerned that she might be fat? I just measured her (just now) between her neck right on her collar and the spot where the tail begins (the thick end) just over the ....'output'....17" or abt. 43cm. Do you, guys, think she is normal? Regards, Andr0:) "B LaVack" <lavack@bla.bla> wrote in message news:4018015B.60602@bla.bla... > I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby > was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with > plenty of access to food. They are both equally large, so nobody is > eating the others food, they are indoor only cats, so I know it can be > hard for them to get exercise. Both weigh ~16lbs and have quite a tummy > on them. Gee....Xena is 15.5lb and the Vet only says that she is fine, just a large cat! I am always concerned that she might be fat? I just measured her (just now) between her neck right on her collar and the spot where the tail begins (the thick end) just over the ....'output'....17" or abt. 43cm. Do you, guys, think she is normal? Regards, Andr0:) Sounds like a large cat so 15 lbs. wouldn't be excessive maybe your cats are actually starving due to being fed so many carbos and not enough protein. Most commercial cat foods are lots of cheap filler. My cat loves to eat too. I make her food and it is basically 3/4 cup per day of raw chicken and livers, with an added supplement. She has been fed this diet for three years now...does not get any vaccine but rabies, by the way....and has been sleek , playful and very healthy. Hope this helps... mv > > I have two neutered male, 2 year old DSH cats. Rukus, my orange tabby > > was a stray, but Revey the grey patchy tabby lived in a shelter with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Regards, > Andr0:)
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