He doesn't trust me anymore. He thinks I have been molesting him. He
doesn't sleep on my lap like he used to, but lays on the floor and
stares at me with half closed eyes.
It all started because I read that if male hormones were being
released, he would have penile spines, but in a nuetered cat, the penis
is smooth.
Smokey was neutered when he was four months old, but for the past year
or so he has been acting like a regular Tom Cat. He sprays, fights,
stays out all night, smells like a tomcat, and I think he even has a
girlfriend now. This behavior makes me believe that the vet must have
left something behind.
So, I have been trying to get a good look at his little penis to see if
there are indeed spines on it. I'm hoping there are because then I can
take him back in and get him neutered - again.
He hates me fooling around down there so I haven't been able to get a
good look yet, but I'm not giving up.
Okay then....
Maybe you should let Smokey think the vet is the pervert? Just a thought...
H
> He doesn't trust me anymore. He thinks I have been molesting him. He
> doesn't sleep on my lap like he used to, but lays on the floor and
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> He hates me fooling around down there so I haven't been able to get a
> good look yet, but I'm not giving up.
circa 27 Jan 2004 19:04:17 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Fat
Freddy (howlin@damoon.com) said,
> He doesn't trust me anymore. He thinks I have been molesting him. He
> doesn't sleep on my lap like he used to, but lays on the floor and
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> He hates me fooling around down there so I haven't been able to get a
> good look yet, but I'm not giving up.
Pervert stuff aside, I think I've seen spines on my definitely-
neutered boys' penises. The way that a veterinarian told me to
determine if a cat is neutered is still gonna make your cat think
you're a perv, but it's a bit easier than trying to get him to sprout
a woody:
Feel his testicles. If they feel like little empty puffballs, then
he's neutered. If there's, um, packing in his package, then he isn't.
Plus he'll probably react if you're squeezing his nuts and they're
still in there. :-)
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Mary - 28 Jan 2004 04:12 GMT
> circa 27 Jan 2004 19:04:17 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Fat
> Freddy (howlin@damoon.com) said,
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> Plus he'll probably react if you're squeezing his nuts and they're
> still in there. :-)
LOL! He will indeed!
SongSylvan - 28 Jan 2004 04:30 GMT
>Plus he'll probably react if you're squeezing his nuts and they're
>still in there. :-)
>
>Laura
*snicker* I was going to advise that the OP wear gloves if he did this, then
suddenly had a mental image of, "Now, Smokey, turn your head and cough..."
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Wendy - 28 Jan 2004 12:34 GMT
>Plus he'll probably react if you're squeezing his nuts and they're
>still in there. :-)
>
>Laura
Love the mental image lol.
The technique won't help much if he's dealing with an undescended testicle.
Laura R. - 28 Jan 2004 13:36 GMT
circa Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:34:03 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendypart@nospam.com) said,
> >Plus he'll probably react if you're squeezing his nuts and they're
> >still in there. :-)
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>
> The technique won't help much if he's dealing with an undescended testicle.
Except that the cat has already been neutered.
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kaeli - 28 Jan 2004 15:41 GMT
> circa Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:34:03 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> >
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>
> Laura
This was the cat that people weren't sure if he was really neutered
because of his behavior.
If he has undescended testicle(s), feeling for it/them isn't
constructive. Even the vets can miss them when they do abdominal
palpitation.

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Fat Freddy - 28 Jan 2004 18:33 GMT
> This was the cat that people weren't sure if he was really neutered
> because of his behavior.
> If he has undescended testicle(s), feeling for it/them isn't
> constructive. Even the vets can miss them when they do abdominal
> palpitation.
Yes, Smokey is the one. A few weeks ago I took him in for his booster
shots and had the vet feel around again. He couldn't find anything.
Someone on this group posted a great article about cryptorchidism
(hidden testicle) which mentioned the penile spines, so that's what I
have been trying to examine. It also outlined a procedure using a
testosterone stimulating hormone and comparative blood tests to see if
testosterone is being produced which would indicate that he has a
testicle somewhere in there. I haven't talked to the vet about any of
this. I don't know if he even has the facilities to do such testing,
and if he did, I'm sure it would be really expensive. It would probably
be cheaper to do an exploratory operation. But I don't want to put
Smokey through that.
So, I guess the poor guy is going to have to put up with me poking and
prodiing his private parts looking for penile spines.
Wendy - 28 Jan 2004 18:52 GMT
> This was the cat that people weren't sure if he was really neutered
> because of his behavior.
> If he has undescended testicle(s), feeling for it/them isn't
> constructive. Even the vets can miss them when they do abdominal
> palpitation.
Yes, Smokey is the one. A few weeks ago I took him in for his booster
shots and had the vet feel around again. He couldn't find anything.
Someone on this group posted a great article about cryptorchidism
(hidden testicle) which mentioned the penile spines, so that's what I
have been trying to examine. It also outlined a procedure using a
testosterone stimulating hormone and comparative blood tests to see if
testosterone is being produced which would indicate that he has a
testicle somewhere in there. I haven't talked to the vet about any of
this. I don't know if he even has the facilities to do such testing,
and if he did, I'm sure it would be really expensive. It would probably
be cheaper to do an exploratory operation. But I don't want to put
Smokey through that.
So, I guess the poor guy is going to have to put up with me poking and
prodiing his private parts looking for penile spines.
Oh joy! You're favorite activity I'm sure lol.
I think I'd give the vet a call and ask about what they could do to
determine if that is the problem. It might be as simple as the vet being the
pervert. If he does have an undescended testicle it's best to get it taken
care of and avoid the possibility of testicular cancer later.