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Mitch@hotmail.com - 22 Jan 2004 19:25 GMT This cat has put on alot of fat since coming indoors. I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total.
Is there anything a cat can do indoors for exercise, or should I cut back her food?
Should I get her a Bowflex? :-)
kaeli - 22 Jan 2004 20:02 GMT > This cat has put on alot of fat since coming indoors. > I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. 1/2 of what? 1/2 of a big 14 oz can, 1/2 leg of lamb...? :) My kids share 8-16 oz of wet between the 3 of them every day and free- fed dry. That is, every other day they get fed the wet both morning and night and every other day, only at night, 8 oz each feeding. I tried twice a day, every day, but they stopped eating and started picking, so it was a waste.
> Is there anything a cat can do indoors for exercise, or should I cut > back her food? A BIG hamster wheel. J/K
If she likes to play, there are several interactive toys for kitties. Wind-up mice, trackball things, things to hang on doors, and things for you to drag behind you for her to chase. My kids get exercise chasing each other.
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Mitch@hotmail.com - 22 Jan 2004 21:05 GMT >> I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. LOL! Oops.
1/2 cup of dry food.
kaeli - 22 Jan 2004 21:31 GMT > >> I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. > > LOL! Oops. > > 1/2 cup of dry food. Well, that certainly seems like a lot of food (my dog only eats 2 cups of dry plus 4 ounces of wet daily and she's 60 pounds), but since I don't know what brand, kcal, etc (and don't know too much about calculating if I did), I'd have to go with the old standby - if she's gaining weight, cut down on her food by an ounce a week. If she loses weight, stay there. If not, cut another ounce until she starts losing and stay there while she loses. When she hits the target weight, increase food by an ounce a week until she gains a little, then cut back by that ounce and stay there.
I have found that it is much easier to control the feline diet when there is only one feline in the house. :) I have 2 healthy-weight females and a fat boy. hehe
My 3 cats together go through a little under a cup of dry every day combined with their wet food. The girls are 8-9 pounds each and my overweight male is 12 pounds (he should be ~10 pounds, as he is a slender tabby-type DSH and not overly long or tall). My Mom's cat, who is a healthy-weight, large, 13 pound male, eats half a cup of dry daily plus 4 ounces of wet. He's not fat; he's solid and somewhat large (tall and long Maine-Coon-body-type DMH moggie).
So, a lot of this also depends on how big your girl is and what her body type is. Maine Coons weight a lot more than Siamese. My 12 pound boy is fat - my Mom's 13 pound boy is not.
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Cheryl - 23 Jan 2004 02:07 GMT 2004:
> My 3 cats together go through a little under a cup of dry every day > combined with their wet food. The girls are 8-9 pounds each and my > overweight male is 12 pounds (he should be ~10 pounds, as he is a > slender tabby-type DSH and not overly long or tall). This is how my Shadow got fat. He would eat the others share, plus his own. As a result, other cat stayed slim, he got fat. I've had to devise a plan to only leave enough (dry) food out for him that won't cause him to eat more than his share, and then one jumps on the counter if he wants dry food, and the third only eats dry when I'm around to pick up the bowl. She won't eat it all in one sitting and she hasn't learned to jump UP yet to find food. Shadow is just too fat to jump on counters these days. He only gets a strict 1/4 cup of dry per day (wellness lite, ~90 Kcals) and I'm still trying to cut that down. The majority of his Kcals come from canned (~180 Kcals). If he doesn't get at least a little to crunch, he is really bitchy. 20 lbs; obese.
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kaeli - 23 Jan 2004 14:36 GMT > This is how my Shadow got fat. He would eat the others share, plus his > own. As a result, other cat stayed slim, he got fat. I've had to devise a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (~180 Kcals). If he doesn't get at least a little to crunch, he is really > bitchy. 20 lbs; obese. Oh, my! *g*
Jeffrey is only a pound or two over, but on a small cat, that can be a bit. They all have to jump on the counter for the food or the dog would eat it. So, it helps them stay a little trimmer. hehehe I can't limit the dry or the girls wouldn't get enough food. All my kids prefer the dry to the wet and prefer to pick at the food rather than eat all at once. I tried the old "I'll just give them wet and they'll eventually eat it" thing. Nope, not the divas. I gave in before they did. *smile*
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Cheryl - 24 Jan 2004 02:03 GMT 2004:
> I can't limit the dry or the girls wouldn't get enough food. All my kids > prefer the dry to the wet and prefer to pick at the food rather than eat > all at once. > I tried the old "I'll just give them wet and they'll eventually eat it" > thing. Nope, not the divas. I gave in before they did. *smile* My girl, Bonnie is the same way. I tried to convert her but she got sort of neurotic about not getting dry food when she hadn't eaten all day and chewed her fur off. She would live on her own fur rather than eat canned food (a kazillion varieties, too!!) so I've given up for now. We'll try again later. A diet of dry and her fur is growing back. Go figure. It just makes it harder with Shadow. <sigh>
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Wendy - 24 Jan 2004 17:34 GMT kaeli wrote in news:MPG.1a7aed7634c308e7989b5c@nntp.lucent.com on 23 Jan 2004:
> I can't limit the dry or the girls wouldn't get enough food. All my kids > prefer the dry to the wet and prefer to pick at the food rather than eat > all at once. > I tried the old "I'll just give them wet and they'll eventually eat it" > thing. Nope, not the divas. I gave in before they did. *smile* My girl, Bonnie is the same way. I tried to convert her but she got sort of neurotic about not getting dry food when she hadn't eaten all day and chewed her fur off. She would live on her own fur rather than eat canned food (a kazillion varieties, too!!) so I've given up for now. We'll try again later. A diet of dry and her fur is growing back. Go figure. It just makes it harder with Shadow. <sigh>
One of the kittens we had last fall was like that. She would starve before eating the wet food. She went from the bottle to dry food. I was feeding them all canned and she wouldn't eat. I put some dry down for in between and that she ate.
Wendy - 23 Jan 2004 13:55 GMT I think someone had posted before that a relatively sedentary adult cat should receive 18.9 k/cal. per lb.of cat. Using that computation my 8lb. Tigger should be getting around 3/8 cup (approx. 150 k/cal.) of the food she's on. That's what we're feeding her now that she peeled off the extra 5 lbs. and she is maintaining on that amount. She won't exercise (probably because of her arthritis) so we have to control her weight through diet alone.
In article <1qe0109h1a25l8dhlhklqoftq8jij3abqd@4ax.com>, Mitch@hotmail.com enlightened us with...
> >> I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. > > LOL! Oops. > > 1/2 cup of dry food. Well, that certainly seems like a lot of food (my dog only eats 2 cups of dry plus 4 ounces of wet daily and she's 60 pounds), but since I don't know what brand, kcal, etc (and don't know too much about calculating if I did), I'd have to go with the old standby - if she's gaining weight, cut down on her food by an ounce a week. If she loses weight, stay there. If not, cut another ounce until she starts losing and stay there while she loses. When she hits the target weight, increase food by an ounce a week until she gains a little, then cut back by that ounce and stay there.
I have found that it is much easier to control the feline diet when there is only one feline in the house. :) I have 2 healthy-weight females and a fat boy. hehe
My 3 cats together go through a little under a cup of dry every day combined with their wet food. The girls are 8-9 pounds each and my overweight male is 12 pounds (he should be ~10 pounds, as he is a slender tabby-type DSH and not overly long or tall). My Mom's cat, who is a healthy-weight, large, 13 pound male, eats half a cup of dry daily plus 4 ounces of wet. He's not fat; he's solid and somewhat large (tall and long Maine-Coon-body-type DMH moggie).
So, a lot of this also depends on how big your girl is and what her body type is. Maine Coons weight a lot more than Siamese. My 12 pound boy is fat - my Mom's 13 pound boy is not.
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Wendy - 22 Jan 2004 21:35 GMT >> I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. LOL! Oops.
1/2 cup of dry food.
They do pork up when they come inside. You may want to get or build something for her to climb on. You can try a laser light or toys or something to chase like kaeli said. We "troll for cat" with a piece of macrame cord. I hung some up in a doorway and tied some toys to it so they swing around. Boots goes nuts with it.
Karen - 22 Jan 2004 22:30 GMT Wet food keeps them trimmer. Less carbs. Closer to a natural diet. You'd be amazed.
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> >> I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. > > LOL! Oops. > > 1/2 cup of dry food. Mitch@hotmail.com - 23 Jan 2004 00:56 GMT >Wet food keeps them trimmer. Less carbs. Closer to a natural diet. You'd be >amazed. Atkins for cats now, too? :)
I'll try the laser pointer.
Karen Chuplis - 23 Jan 2004 01:10 GMT >> Wet food keeps them trimmer. Less carbs. Closer to a natural diet. You'd be >> amazed. > > Atkins for cats now, too? :) > > I'll try the laser pointer. Well, it's more akin to their natural diet. The carbs they get in nature is what little is in a preys stomach. It's true. People who eschew "lite" dry foods for canned foods have cats that lose weight better.
Karen
Wendy - 23 Jan 2004 13:19 GMT in article f8s0109j2651lq4pgfrv1d1dqf930unu67@4ax.com, Mitch@hotmail.com at Mitch@hotmail.com wrote on 1/22/04 6:56 PM:
>> Wet food keeps them trimmer. Less carbs. Closer to a natural diet. You'd be >> amazed. > > Atkins for cats now, too? :) > > I'll try the laser pointer. Well, it's more akin to their natural diet. The carbs they get in nature is what little is in a preys stomach. It's true. People who eschew "lite" dry foods for canned foods have cats that lose weight better.
Karen
The lite foods never worked with ours however I've since found out that since the lite recommends feeding a larger quantity of food the cat ends up eating the same number of calories as before. Like my vet said be wary of package quantity recommendations - after all the mfg. is trying to sell food. The more they eat the sooner you buy more.
DevilsPGD - 23 Jan 2004 00:02 GMT >Is there anything a cat can do indoors for exercise, or should I cut >back her food? > >Should I get her a Bowflex? :-) A laser pointer.
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Knack - 23 Jan 2004 01:24 GMT > This cat has put on alot of fat since coming indoors. > I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Should I get her a Bowflex? :-) There are lower calorie dry cat foods available that are labeled to be for adult/overweight cats. As If I'm not mistaken, they are not labeled as "low calorie" or "weight loss". Try switching your cats daily intake to half to three-quarter cup a day of a food like that until the cat gets down to the right weight. Later you can go back to feeding with the previous food(s), cutting back on the daily total amount.
Cheryl - 23 Jan 2004 02:20 GMT 2004:
> Try switching your cats daily intake to half to > three-quarter cup a day of a food like that until the cat gets down to > the right weight. Later you can go back to feeding with the previous > food(s), cutting back on the daily total amount. Half of the usual intake is asking for trouble. Cats should lose weight s- l-o-w-l-y or else the risk of hepatic lipidosis is all too real. They can't process their own body fat for energy in the way humans can.
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Cheryl - 23 Jan 2004 02:29 GMT 2004:
> 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > real. They can't process their own body fat for energy in the way > humans can. Yikes, Knack. I misread your post. My apologies. :) I thought I read "half of the 3/4 cup per day.". Carry on. lol
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Shaggin - 24 Jan 2004 01:27 GMT I have two cats, one is female and lazy, the other is male and is terribly wild. They both have huge saggy bellies but the girl is obese im afriad. The boy I believe weighs like 10 pounds not sure and the girl weighs at least 15 cant remember. When the female was a kitten she would eat so much and so fast that she would vomit we had to feed her in another room so the boy could eat because she would hog all the food. They are both house cats only and fed all dry food. We cut there food intake back to one small handful for each cat each day for two months. Well they didnt loose even the slightest amount of weight and they were eating out of the garbage when we werent looking and anything they could find I took it as they were starving and so we give them a cat bowl filled with dry food in the morning. They dont care to play with anything except milk tabs and balls. During the night you can hear the boy running through the house and it literally sounds like a heard of elephants... well i guess i dont have any advice and if anyone has suggestions there welsome to tell me
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> This cat has put on alot of fat since coming indoors. > I feed her 1/2 of food per day, total. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Should I get her a Bowflex? :-)
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