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Chris - 20 Jan 2004 06:43 GMT
I am currently looking for home for FelV+ stray, Big Boy, (about which I
posted before).  I have other cats who cannot be exposed to him so he is
isolated.  I get very conflicting info about one thing:  I would be able to
let him loose in my bedroom (instead of the attached bath & large dog kennel
I bring him out into the bedroom with) but have been told that after he left
I would have to quarantine that room for 30-60 days no matter how well I
cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous experiences.
Laura R. - 20 Jan 2004 06:59 GMT
circa Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:43:37 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Chris (tisme@mindspring.com) said,

> I am currently looking for home for FelV+ stray, Big Boy, (about which I
> posted before).  I have other cats who cannot be exposed to him so he is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I would have to quarantine that room for 30-60 days no matter how well I
> cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous experiences.

Everything I've read says that older cats who are negative are at
much lower risk than younger cats, but of course, that doesn't mean
I'd recommend contact between the cats. As far as quarantining the
room for 30-60 days, bleach does kill the virus, and no, I don't
believe you have to worry about the virus for 30-60 days after a
thorough cleaning. Check out the last paragraph on this page (the
entire page is quite informative):

http://www.lbah.com/Feline/FeLV.html

And these:

http://www2.dgsys.com/~ermiller/FeLV.html

(note the sections entitled "How is it transmitted?" and "Will I
infect my healthy cat if I pet an FeLV+ cat, then pet my cat?"

And Cornell's words on the subject, which I'd always take as pretty
darned authoritative:

http://web.vet.cornell.edu/Public/FHC/felv.html

Last, look at this, even though it's not a veterinary site:

http://www.geocities.com/netspider41/cleaning.html

Basically, everything I've ever read about transmission of FeLV has
said that it's not *that* easily transmitted if the cats aren't
exchanging fluids with one another. Hope this puts your mind at ease
a little. If it were me, I'd let the poor guy have the run of the
room while I had him. :-)

Laura
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MacCandace - 21 Jan 2004 01:43 GMT
I guess I can't quite tell if your cat has FIV or FeLV.  Feline Leukemia Virus
or Feline Immunodeficieny Virus.  The latter is far less contagious than the
former and only requires that the cat not bite or be bitten by another cat to
break the skin in order to spread the virus.  I can't tell if you are writing a
capital I ("eye") or a small l ("el").

Okay, I just pasted your header into Word and changed the font so it does,
indeed, look like you are referring to FIV, Feline Immunodeficency Virus, in
which case you should not have much concern that your existing cats will catch
anything from Big Boy unless they get in a violent fight.  It requires direct
blood contact to spread, not just being in the same room or touching the same
things.  It is not airborn and probably not even saliva born.  I know of people
who keep FIV+ cats together with their FIV- cats and have no problems as long
as fighting doesn't occur.

Of course, if you really are referring to FeLV, that's another story so
disregard this.

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Laura R. - 21 Jan 2004 01:52 GMT
circa 21 Jan 2004 01:43:42 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,
> I guess I can't quite tell if your cat has FIV or FeLV.  Feline Leukemia Virus
> or Feline Immunodeficieny Virus.  The latter is far less contagious than the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)

The links I posted were about FeLV, not FIV, so I still think we're
kosher. ;-)

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MacCandace - 21 Jan 2004 01:57 GMT
<< The links I posted were about FeLV, not FIV, so I still think we're
kosher. ;-)

Laura >>

I know...I was addressing the OP, I think his cat is FIV+ not FeLV+.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Jan 2004 02:25 GMT
Candace wrote:
>I think his cat is FIV+ not FeLV+.

No, the cat is definitely *Feline Leukemia* positive, not FIV+. She has
posted about him several times.

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MacCandace - 21 Jan 2004 02:42 GMT
<< No, the cat is definitely *Feline Leukemia* positive, not FIV+. She has
posted about him several times.

Megan >>

Oh, okay, I was confused.  Sorry, OP.

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Laura R. - 21 Jan 2004 02:27 GMT
circa 21 Jan 2004 01:57:19 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,

> I know...I was addressing the OP, I think his cat is FIV+ not FeLV+.

OHHH! I thought you were thinking his cat was FeLV+. I assumed FeLV
because of his "Stray w. +Leukemia Flyer", "stray with +leukemia" and
"Urgent: Leukemia positive stray--have to make a quick decision"
posts.

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MacCandace - 21 Jan 2004 02:38 GMT
<< OHHH! I thought you were thinking his cat was FeLV+. I assumed FeLV
because of his "Stray w. +Leukemia Flyer", "stray with +leukemia" and
"Urgent: Leukemia positive stray--have to make a quick decision"
posts.

Laura >>

Oh, sorry, I was too lazy to go back and look at his previous posts.  I
remembered him writing them but I didn't remember if it was FIV or FeLV.
Apparently, it was FeLV then.  So....OP...sorry...forget I mentioned it.  I was
talking about FIV.  But I agree with what Laura said...I would let him have
free rein of the room anyway.  Everything I have read about FeLV indicates that
it takes prolonged contact with a positive cat to contract it...like sharing
food bowls, litterboxes, etc. over a long period...not just being in the same
house with the no direct contact.  I certainly hope you are able to place Big
Boy with a FeLV+ home or shelter.

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Chris - 21 Jan 2004 04:42 GMT
Sorry for confusion--when I looked at how I typed it, I could see the
problem.  I am still looking for a place.  There is a shelter in Michigan
that would take him (Cat Tails Farm (formerly Gaia Sanctuary)-south of
Lansing.  I'm in NY & that's a long way for the little guy,Big Boy. to
travel.  I'm going day to day with him; he really doesn't like all the
confinement but I have to think about my other guys as well.....
> I am currently looking for home for FelV+ stray, Big Boy, (about which I
> posted before).  I have other cats who cannot be exposed to him so he is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I would have to quarantine that room for 30-60 days no matter how well I
> cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous experiences.
Laura R. - 22 Jan 2004 01:53 GMT
circa Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:42:29 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Chris (tisme@mindspring.com) said,

> Sorry for confusion--when I looked at how I typed it, I could see the
> problem.  I am still looking for a place.  There is a shelter in Michigan
> that would take him (Cat Tails Farm (formerly Gaia Sanctuary)-south of
> Lansing.  I'm in NY & that's a long way for the little guy,Big Boy. to
> travel.  I'm going day to day with him; he really doesn't like all the
> confinement but I have to think about my other guys as well.....

Chris, I live in NY and am from Michigan. If I get a trip home
anytime soon, I might be able to bring the little guy as carry-on...

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MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 02:20 GMT
<< Chris, I live in NY and am from Michigan. If I get a trip home
anytime soon, I might be able to bring the little guy as carry-on...

Laura >>

Remember a couple years ago, the Jack/Catherine/Juls (where is Juls?) thing
where a bunch of us on this NG pitched in and got Jack transported to Juls by
that pet transport company?  I'd be willing to pay 10-15 bucks to help Big Boy
get to Michigan safely (I'm a little broke right now so can't give much more
than that but it wouldn't take all that many people giving 10 bucks to get the
job done).  Wasn't Jack transported from Washington state to St. Louis?  I
believe Megan and Beth arranged the details.  I'm sure Megan would give Chris
the name of the pet transport company.  If I recall, we each called the pet
transport company directly and paid them a donation by credit card to get Jack
to his new home.  It seems as though it worked out very well and went quite
smoothly.  Anyone else willing to contribute a few bucks?

Candace
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Karen Chuplis - 22 Jan 2004 02:27 GMT
> << Chris, I live in NY and am from Michigan. If I get a trip home
> anytime soon, I might be able to bring the little guy as carry-on...
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Candace
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I would.

Karen
Laura R. - 22 Jan 2004 02:40 GMT
circa 22 Jan 2004 02:20:43 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,

> Laura >>
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> to his new home.  It seems as though it worked out very well and went quite
> smoothly.  Anyone else willing to contribute a few bucks?

I remember Jack's case well. :-) I'd be willing to chip in again,
although finances are a little tighter right now than last time.

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MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 03:02 GMT
<< I remember Jack's case well. :-) I'd be willing to chip in again,
although finances are a little tighter right now than last time.

Laura >>

I know the feeling, that's why I'm saying $10-15.  I can't remember what it
cost, can you guys?  Was it $300+ or was it way more than that?  I bet Cathy
knows.  If it was 3-400, that's only 30 or so of us giving.

Candace
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Cathy Friedmann - 22 Jan 2004 03:10 GMT
> << I remember Jack's case well. :-) I'd be willing to chip in again,
> although finances are a little tighter right now than last time.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> cost, can you guys?  Was it $300+ or was it way more than that?  I bet Cathy
> knows.  If it was 3-400, that's only 30 or so of us giving.

Who, me?  Nope, I don't remember.  But that sounds about right.  I'd be
willing to chip in, too - I *just* caught this thread.

Cathy

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Karen M. - 22 Jan 2004 18:01 GMT
> > << I remember Jack's case well. :-) I'd be willing to chip in again,
> > although finances are a little tighter right now than last time.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Cathy

Count me in as well. Being a West Coast gal I can't really offer any
suggestions on shelters or anything, but I can at least do this! :)

Karen M.
Laura R. - 23 Jan 2004 00:34 GMT
circa 22 Jan 2004 03:02:27 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,

> I know the feeling, that's why I'm saying $10-15.  I can't remember what it
> cost, can you guys?  Was it $300+ or was it way more than that?  I bet Cathy
> knows.  If it was 3-400, that's only 30 or so of us giving.

I honestly don't recall the total cost. I remember roughly how much I
put in, but I'm not sure what the total was.

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Chris - 22 Jan 2004 03:32 GMT
Laura, Thank you very much for your offer... Right now, I feel a little
funny about sending Big Boy someplace I've never seen. Do you know anyone
who might have been there or worked with them?

> circa Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:42:29 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Chris (tisme@mindspring.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Laura
Chris - 22 Jan 2004 03:27 GMT
You are all so very nice!!!!!   As much as I want him in a forever home--I'm
so nervous about sending him so far to a place I haven't seen...  Do you
know anyone who ever worked with them or lives near Lansing Michigan & might
want to visit???  I have looked at flying with him in cabin but worry about
security making me take him out of carrier which I know I wouldn't be able
to do without him becoming totally freaked (he won't come out of carrier for
anything at the vett!)  Do you know the name of the pet transport
company--was it by air (I worry about putting animals in cargo holds!)

> Sorry for confusion--when I looked at how I typed it, I could see the
> problem.  I am still looking for a place.  There is a shelter in Michigan
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> > I would have to quarantine that room for 30-60 days no matter how well I
> > cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous experiences.
MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 03:41 GMT
<< Do you know the name of the pet transport
company--was it by air (I worry about putting animals in cargo holds!) >>

I don't remember the name of the company but Megan or someone will.  It was not
by plane, it was truck but the people were exceptionally nice, if I recall.
This is an actual business so they put the pet's safety and comfort foremost.
Does this place have a website that is willing to take him?  How about checking
them out with the BBB in Lansing?  I know that here in Phoenix, you can check
places out online with the BBB.  Maybe you can find another place that would
take him that we could transport him to.  How about that Best Friends Sanctuary
in Utah, have you contacted them?  They might have an idea for you if they
can't take him themselves.  We can probably arrange the transport anywhere in
the US.  NY to Michigan isn't really all that long of a trip, though.  I agree,
though, that you should check the place out thoroughly before sending him
there.  We just wanted to give you a little hope that there can probably be a
solution to your problem.  Sometimes it can make you feel like a problem is
less insurmountable if you know some other people will help a little.

Candace
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Chris - 22 Jan 2004 03:44 GMT
I really appreciate the support--its getting tougher here every day!  I'll
check BBB as suggested.  I had contacted Best Friends but they just gave me
links to other sites....
> << Do you know the name of the pet transport
> company--was it by air (I worry about putting animals in cargo holds!) >>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)
MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 03:54 GMT
<< I really appreciate the support--its getting tougher here every day!  I'll
check BBB as suggested.  I had contacted Best Friends but they just gave me
links to other sites.... >>

Okay, I just did a Google search on this place, meaning Cat Tails Farm.  I
don't know, what do you think?  This is a recent article on them from the
Lansing State Journal:

<A HREF="http://www.lsj.com/news/local/p_021228_cats_1b-2b.html">Lansing State
Journal</A>

Candace
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 22 Jan 2004 05:16 GMT
Candace wrote:

>Okay, I just did a Google search on this
>place, meaning Cat Tails Farm. I don't
>know, what do you think?

If I had the cat, there is no way in hell I would send it there, no
matter how desperate I was. The article mentioned the stench and
complaints of the previous location, and if the cats were properly cared
for it wouldn't matter if you had 1000 of them. There shouldn't be a
stench. My guess is that in a few years, we may be hearing about this
place again and not in a good way.

Maybe people here can think of who they know in the NY/NJ area that
could provide a home for this cat. Either someone with a dog that likes
cats, or someone with no cats at all.

Megan

                                   
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KellyH - 22 Jan 2004 12:07 GMT
?

> If I had the cat, there is no way in hell I would send it there, no
> matter how desperate I was. The article mentioned the stench and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> could provide a home for this cat. Either someone with a dog that likes
> cats, or someone with no cats at all.

Is there anyone remotely close by that could check out Cat Tails Farm?  The
reported stench could either be neighbors making it up, because they don't
want to live next to a cat sanctuary, or other farms in the area.  I would
be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I would want to get an
eyewitness report.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 22 Jan 2004 14:13 GMT
>Is there anyone remotely close by that
>could check out Cat Tails Farm? The
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the benefit of the doubt, but I would want
>to get an eyewitness report.

I wouldn't bother. They didn't even bother to get permits for their
current location, but instead decided to move where they aren't known.
Also, there are only two people responsible for this sanctuary, with
only one working full time there to care for the cats while the other
one goes to a regular job. They may have good intentions, but what the
article revealed is enough for me to question the care there. There is
the matter of the stench, which NO cat should have to live with and one
they say they will only be "kept down" with a new ventilation system
(which is an admission that there is a noticeable stench.) That is not
good enough, and it's clear that the cats also will never get the kind
of attention they need and deserve. Spending the rest of their lives in
kennels located in two quonset huts is not something I would wish on any
cat. I think the focus should be on finding this cat a home with a
person.

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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
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splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Chris - 22 Jan 2004 16:09 GMT
I still would like it if someone in the area could take a look at the
place--there's nothing like first hand account to tell you what the
situation really is....
> >Is there anyone remotely close by that
> >could check out Cat Tails Farm? The
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> - W.H. Murray
MacCandace - 23 Jan 2004 04:04 GMT
<< I still would like it if someone in the area could take a look at the
place--there's nothing like first hand account to tell you what the
situation really is.... >>

Yeah, except it said they don't divulge their location...which I can see in a
way but the whole article made me uneasy.  On the other hand, I know Chris
can't keep Big Boy forever and I hate to see him euthanized.

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MacCandace - 23 Jan 2004 04:08 GMT
Maybe we (Chris) could start a thread looking for a home for Big Boy anywhere
in the US.  Now that we seem to have a lot of people willing to pay his
transport, he could theoretically move anywhere.

Candace
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Laura R. - 23 Jan 2004 00:39 GMT
circa Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:13:18 -0600 (CST), in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav, zuzu22@webtv.net (zuzu22@webtv.net) said,
> I wouldn't bother. They didn't even bother to get permits for their
> current location, but instead decided to move where they aren't known.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> cat. I think the focus should be on finding this cat a home with a
> person.

Good points. <sigh>

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Laura R. - 23 Jan 2004 00:38 GMT
circa 22 Jan 2004 03:54:46 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,
> << I really appreciate the support--its getting tougher here every day!  I'll
> check BBB as suggested.  I had contacted Best Friends but they just gave me
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> <A HREF="http://www.lsj.com/news/local/p_021228_cats_1b-2b.html">Lansing State
> Journal</A>

Call the reporter who wrote the article and ask her for her
impression of the place. :-)

I lived in Lansing long ago, but I can't think of anybody I still
know there, unfortunately.

Laura
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Cathy Friedmann - 22 Jan 2004 04:51 GMT
I missed the beginning of this thread.  Does the North Shore Animal League
have placements for cats such as him, by any chance?

Cathy

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> I really appreciate the support--its getting tougher here every day!  I'll
> check BBB as suggested.  I had contacted Best Friends but they just gave me
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> other
> > than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Chris - 24 Jan 2004 05:12 GMT
I contacted them--they are not interested--but to be honest I had tried them
for the other non+ strays over the last couple of years & it was a no-go
> I missed the beginning of this thread.  Does the North Shore Animal League
> have placements for cats such as him, by any chance?
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> > other
> > > than human."  (Loren Eisely)
KellyH - 22 Jan 2004 03:57 GMT
> << Do you know the name of the pet transport
> company--was it by air (I worry about putting animals in cargo holds!) >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> solution to your problem.  Sometimes it can make you feel like a problem is
> less insurmountable if you know some other people will help a little.

Here's one pet transportation service I found:
http://www.feathersandfurvanlines.com/petmovers.htm

They have a "rescue rate" you might be able to get if you explain the
situation.  I wouldn't fly Big Boy on a plane, either!  Too afraid something
might happen.  BTW - I've also sent an inquiry to a local group around here
(Northeast MA) to see if they can take a FeLV+ cat.  Might be a shorter trip
for him.  It takes me about 6 hours to get to NYC, depending on how bad the
traffic is.  If this does work out, I'm willing to help out with
transportation.

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MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 04:01 GMT
<< Here's one pet transportation service I found:
http://www.feathersandfurvanlines.com/petmovers.htm >>

Hmm, that doesn't ring a bell but I could be wrong and it doesn't have to be
the same company anyway, I guess.  

Chris, maybe you could call the Humane Society in Lansing and ask them what
they think about Cat Tails Farm.

Candace
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than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Chris - 22 Jan 2004 04:07 GMT
Good Idea--will do that tomorrow....
> << Here's one pet transportation service I found:
> http://www.feathersandfurvanlines.com/petmovers.htm >>
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> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Karen Chuplis - 22 Jan 2004 04:23 GMT
> << Here's one pet transportation service I found:
> http://www.feathersandfurvanlines.com/petmovers.htm >>
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> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)

Wasn't it called Pro Pet Transport.

Karen
MacCandace - 22 Jan 2004 04:34 GMT
<< Wasn't it called Pro Pet Transport.

Karen >>

That sounds familiar.  Here's their website:

<A HREF="http://www.pro-pet-transports.com/">Nationwide Pet Transportation
Services</A>

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
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Judy F - 22 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
I'd be willing to help with the cost of the transport too, if you can find a
good place to send big boy!
Judy F

> << Wasn't it called Pro Pet Transport.
>
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> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Laura R. - 23 Jan 2004 00:42 GMT
circa Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:23:16 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Karen Chuplis (kchuplis@alltel.net) said,
> Wasn't it called Pro Pet Transport.

Right you are! Found an old e-mail regarding Jack:

If you would like to donate by credit card, contact Pro Pet
Transports directly at 1-866-ARE-PETS between the hours of 9 am and 6
pm M-F. Ask to speak to Belinda and tell her you want to make a
credit card donation to THE JACK FUND. She will handle the details.
If you want to donate by snail mail, you'll need to send a money
order made out to Pro Pet Transports and address the envelope as
follows:

Pro Pet Transports
THE JACK FUND/Attn: Belinda
59154 Trafton Lane
John Day, OR 97845

Laura
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Laura R. - 23 Jan 2004 00:41 GMT
circa 22 Jan 2004 04:01:32 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,
> << Here's one pet transportation service I found:
> http://www.feathersandfurvanlines.com/petmovers.htm >>
>
> Hmm, that doesn't ring a bell but I could be wrong and it doesn't have to be
> the same company anyway, I guess.  

I don't think that was it, either. I know that Arjun Ray wrote up the
whole saga at some point- anybody remember where it was posted?

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Magic Mood Jeep? - 22 Jan 2004 23:03 GMT
The pet transport company is Pro Pet Transports, their website is
http://www.pro-pet-transports.com/ .
I remember that from the archived story of the Oregon-to-Missouri story
(tears welled up on that one).  From what I understand is that they have a
converted buses and drive to the pickup location(s), and then drive the pet
to the destination.  They have a price list and you can look up what the
fees will be by the origin & destination zip codes, they apparently charge
by carrier size and distance.  They make rest stops on the way so that the
dogs can be walked and cats can use the litter box, and you can 'track' the
progress of your pet online during his/her journey with their Pet Tracker
function on their web page.  They are licensed with the USDA (US Department
of Agriculture) & IPATA (Independent Pet and Animal Transportation
Association), bonded & insured & are the LARGEST pet-transport company in
the continental US.  I also saw a rather large notice on one of their pages
that they DO NOT deliver/pick up at airports!  Pets need to have
veterinarian documentations regarding their health & vaccinations, but I
could find no mention of FeLV+ cats, you could always email them and ask
about it.  I'm sure that they could make arrangements - especially since
each animal is in it's own carrier, Big Boy's could be marked that he not be
allowed to mingle with any other cats during his trip.

I hope this helps you.

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> You are all so very nice!!!!!   As much as I want him in a forever home--I'm
> so nervous about sending him so far to a place I haven't seen...  Do you
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> > > cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous
> experiences.
Phil P - 27 Jan 2004 10:50 GMT
> I am currently looking for home for FelV+ stray, Big Boy, (about which I
> posted before).  I have other cats who cannot be exposed to him so he is
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> I would have to quarantine that room for 30-60 days no matter how well I
> cleaned it...  Does anyone have thoughts on this or previous experiences.

Whoever gave you that information is grossly misinformed.  The FeLV virus
isn't all that stable in the environment - that's why effective transmission
requires *prolonged*, intimate moist contact.  Drying begins to inactivate
the virus almost
immediately and is completely inactivated in about 3-4 hours -- but if the
virus is kept
moist in blood, serum, or tissue  it can remain stable for about a week at
room temperature.

Phil
 
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