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tracy - 15 Jan 2004 19:02 GMT
my kitten has just been spayed and I have just noticed that unlike any
of my previous cats that i have had done, she hasn't got her paw
shaved. Why? Could she have been given gas instead? watching her at
the moment she looks like she has been out on the beer all night. I
could do with some of what she has had!!! LOL
Yngver - 15 Jan 2004 21:56 GMT
>my kitten has just been spayed and I have just noticed that unlike any
>of my previous cats that i have had done, she hasn't got her paw
>shaved. Why? Could she have been given gas instead? watching her at
>the moment she looks like she has been out on the beer all night. I
>could do with some of what she has had!!! LOL

Possibly, but often vets use a fast-acting intravenous anesthesia first before
administering gas. I don't recall that any of our cats had shaved paws for
their spays.
Laura R. - 17 Jan 2004 18:26 GMT
circa 15 Jan 2004 21:56:29 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Yngver
(yngver@aol.comnospam) said,
> >my kitten has just been spayed and I have just noticed that unlike any
> >of my previous cats that i have had done, she hasn't got her paw
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> administering gas. I don't recall that any of our cats had shaved paws for
> their spays.

It usually depends on how easily the vet finds a vein in the cat and
whether the vet automatically shaves before checking. If the kitty
didn't need to be shaved to find a vein, that is a very good thing,
trust me. It means that the cat either has good veins, the vet/vet
tech is a very good "poker", or both. Regardless, it's occasion for
happiness. (I learned a whole lot about cats' veins and whatnot when
Alex went through chemo. Good veins and/or skilled needlers are
*great*.)

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tracy - 17 Jan 2004 20:33 GMT
<<circa 15 Jan 2004 21:56:29 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Yngver
<<(yngver@aol.comnospam) said,
<<> >my kitten has just been spayed and I have just noticed that
unlike any
<<> >of my previous cats that i have had done, she hasn't got her paw
<<> >shaved. Why? Could she have been given gas instead? watching her
at
<<> >the moment she looks like she has been out on the beer all night.
I
<<> >could do with some of what she has had!!! LOL
<<> >
<<> Possibly, but often vets use a fast-acting intravenous anesthesia
first before
<<> administering gas. I don't recall that any of our cats had shaved
paws for
<<> their spays.
<<>
<<It usually depends on how easily the vet finds a vein in the cat and
<<whether the vet automatically shaves before checking. If the kitty
<<didn't need to be shaved to find a vein, that is a very good thing,
<<trust me. It means that the cat either has good veins, the vet/vet
<<tech is a very good "poker", or both. Regardless, it's occasion for
<<happiness. (I learned a whole lot about cats' veins and whatnot when
<<Alex went through chemo. Good veins and/or skilled needlers are
<<*great*.)
<<
<<Laura

Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is that TED
said her stitches would dissolve and would not need any removed, so
why has she got one stitch at the one end of her incision exposed.
Should i call in case she has bitten or licked it out her self or just
leave it as it is?

TIA
Tracy & Tilly.
Laura R. - 17 Jan 2004 20:53 GMT
circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:33:18 +0000, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,
> Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is that TED
> said her stitches would dissolve and would not need any removed, so
> why has she got one stitch at the one end of her incision exposed.
> Should i call in case she has bitten or licked it out her self or just
> leave it as it is?

What was the date of her spaying?

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Laura R. - 17 Jan 2004 20:53 GMT
circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:33:18 +0000, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,
> Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is that TED
> said her stitches would dissolve and would not need any removed, so
> why has she got one stitch at the one end of her incision exposed.
> Should i call in case she has bitten or licked it out her self or just
> leave it as it is?

Whoops, if you're just worried about the fact that it's exposed,
don't. Can you see a knot in it?

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tracy - 17 Jan 2004 21:14 GMT
<<circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:33:18 +0000, in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
<<tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,
<<> Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is that
TED
<<> said her stitches would dissolve and would not need any removed,
so
<<> why has she got one stitch at the one end of her incision exposed.
<<> Should i call in case she has bitten or licked it out her self or
just
<<> leave it as it is?
<<>
<<Whoops, if you're just worried about the fact that it's exposed,
<<don't. Can you see a knot in it?
<<
<<Laura

She was spayed on tuesday. there is a knot in it yes.
Laura R. - 17 Jan 2004 21:30 GMT
circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +0000, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,
> <<> Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is that
> TED
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> She was spayed on tuesday. there is a knot in it yes.

Oh, then I wouldn't worry *at all*. Give the stitches at least a
week, preferably a bit more, to dissolve, and that external stitch is
simply the anchoring knot, so no cause for alarm.

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tracy - 17 Jan 2004 21:57 GMT
<<circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +0000, in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
<<tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,
<<> <<> Thanks for the answer Laura. Another thing I have noticed is
that
<<> TED
<<> <<> said her stitches would dissolve and would not need any
removed,
<<> so
<<> <<> why has she got one stitch at the one end of her incision
exposed.
<<> <<> Should i call in case she has bitten or licked it out her self
or
<<> just
<<> <<> leave it as it is?
<<> <<>
<<> <<Whoops, if you're just worried about the fact that it's exposed,
<<> <<don't. Can you see a knot in it?
<<> <<

<<> <<Laura

Thanks laura. Your answer has really helped. It has been around 2yrs
since i last had a cat spayed and as like many other things i suppose
things do change. Where do you get all your knowledge from? What fur
babies do you have? Tilly, (the one causing all the worrying) is one
of three that i have. The others are Tabby, a LH tabby cat who is
around 11-12yrs and boots, a ginger tom, who is around 8-9. Tilly is
still only a baby at 6mnths and is a joy. I got her when she was
around 8wks old according to the person I had her off. Personally i
think she was younger as when she lies on her blanket she has happy
feet and sucks the thing that she is lying on. Is this because she
left her mom too soon? None of the others have had many problems
except tabby when she was around 2yrs old. She got run over and had to
have a major operation as i can't recall what is what called, but her
intsetines had somehow got through a hole and into her chest cavity.
She was a ted's for three days and had all her stomach hair and more
shaved. TED was worried because she would not eat while there but made
up for it when she came home. Must be something about missing me, I
hope!!!!
    sorry for the long reply but once i started i couldnt't seem
to stop typing. Where R U from? (Just out of interest)

Thanks again
Tracy, Tabby, Boots, Tilly & DS Daniel.
<<>
<<>
<<> She was spayed on tuesday. there is a knot in it yes.
<<>
<<Oh, then I wouldn't worry *at all*. Give the stitches at least a
<<week, preferably a bit more, to dissolve, and that external stitch
is
<<simply the anchoring knot, so no cause for alarm.
<<
<<Laura
Laura R. - 18 Jan 2004 02:13 GMT
circa Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:57:45 +0000, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
tracy (tracy@mayer92.freeserve.co.uk) said,

> Thanks laura. Your answer has really helped. It has been around 2yrs
> since i last had a cat spayed and as like many other things i suppose
> things do change.

Plus, different veterinarians (and their technicians) literally have
different "styles". Some shave circular areas for surgery; some shave
squares. Some shave the smallest patch possible, others darned near
shave a cat bald for surgery. ;-) They have different stitching
styles, needling styles, examination styles, you name it. It's like
any other profession- everybody develops a routine that tends to
reflect what has worked for him or her in the past.

> Where do you get all your knowledge from?

There is *far* more that I _don't_ know than I do know. It's just
that I've had a lot of cats in my lifetime, and I am by nature (not
by profession) a researcher and a behavioralist. Whenever any of my
pets have had any kind of illness, procedure, whatever, I've always
read everything I can find on the subject. I'm one of those people
who feels more comfortable with medical procedures if I know exactly
what's involved in every aspect of them. Besides, when I was a kid, I
wanted to be a veterinarian, but some pretty hefty allergies
precluded that. Basically, I have several different interest areas,
and cats are one of them. :-)

> What fur
> babies do you have? Tilly, (the one causing all the worrying) is one
> of three that i have. The others are Tabby, a LH tabby cat who is
> around 11-12yrs and boots, a ginger tom, who is around 8-9. Tilly is
> still only a baby at 6mnths and is a joy. I got her when she was
> around 8wks old according to the person I had her off.

I currently have three, having lost one in August that I've not yet
"replaced".

Oscar, who turned 9 on November 1, is a buff tabby DSH who is slowly
slimming down from a couple of years of chubbiness that resulted from
his eating Jacob's K/D (renal failure food that is low phosphorus,
but fattening). Oscar is my pissant cat- he loves to pick on Camille.
However, he's totally subservient to Jacob, who he seems to think is
his boyfriend. Or his mommy.

Camille will be 11 on March 31. She's a dilute tortie DMH with fur
that always looks kind of dusty and ratty even five minutes after
she's been brushed. She's skittish and shy, hates to be picked up or
held, but will crawl up into my lap when she wants to, as she is
doing at this very moment. She licks my hands and feet obsessively
and loves to talk in the morning.

My oldest is Jacob, who was born in 1988. He is a black DSH wo always
looks like he was put in the dryer (he's kind of fluffy, yet short-
haired). He has CRF and is the sweet old man of the house. He's also
the most dominant of the cats, even though he's the smallest and
oldest. He was the first cat I got as an adult, along with his
brother, Gabriel, who died at age four of hepatic lipidosis (as did
Hannibal, who was Oscar's littermate). He is the sweetest, cuddliest
cat I've ever known, and borders on clinginess, which is fine with
me.

> Personally i
> think she was younger as when she lies on her blanket she has happy
> feet and sucks the thing that she is lying on. Is this because she
> left her mom too soon?

Not necessarily. Camille does the licking thing I mentioned, and she
had her mother (a feral who decided she would live with me for a
while, and who also produced Oscar- long story) around until she was
three or so. Jacob used to suck on my earlobes until he was five or
six years old, but his littermate didn't do anything similar. I've
had cats who did the suckling/happy feet thing, and others who
didn't, and there has been no consistency as to how old they were
when they left their mothers. I think it's just that some cats are
comforted by doing it, or reminded of their kitten times. :-)

>  None of the others have had many problems
> except tabby when she was around 2yrs old. She got run over and had to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> up for it when she came home. Must be something about missing me, I
> hope!!!!

Being away from their people and their homes is very stressful for
cats, so I'm not surprised that she gained weight once she was back
with you. She must love you a lot. :-)

>     sorry for the long reply but once i started i couldnt't seem
> to stop typing.

Obviously, I suffer the same affliction. ;-)

> Where R U from? (Just out of interest)

I live in New York (City) now, but I've lived in lots of places. I'm
mostly from Michigan, originally.

Oh, I almost forgot- you can see pictures of my cats, including the
one I lost to lymphoma in August, here:

http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=geekwench&AID=370271
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=geekwench&AID=1006040
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=geekwench&AID=369785

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