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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2004Claw Clipping
I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? I've seen both used but since I will be starting to do this in the near future (the vet showed us how today) I want to make sure the best and most comfortable method is used. TIA -- rach "Hipsters - UNITE!" I've used both & personally find the ones for humans easier to use. Cathy -- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon > I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's > claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > "Hipsters - UNITE!" >I've used both & personally find the ones for humans easier to use. I agree, they make it easier to see what I'm doing. I don't like the guillotine style clippers because you can't see exactly where the end of the quick is when you're clipping. Plus, since cat's claws are flat rather than round--or with our cats, the claws on the front paws are flat and the rear ones are a little rounder--it makes more sense to me to use a clipper designed for flat nails. > >I've used both & personally find the ones for humans easier to use. > > I agree, they make it easier to see what I'm doing. I like human toenail clippers for much the same reason(s). I've never missed and hit the quick with them, and they're larger than regular nail clippers, so I can easily clip the big boy's nails. Guillotine (sp?) clippers make me nervous.  Signature-- ~kaeli~ Press any key to continue or any other key to quit http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >> >I've used both & personally find the ones for humans easier to use. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Guillotine (sp?) clippers make me nervous. Guillotines are eeeeeeevil. I don't know *any* groomers that use them on cats or dogs. The professional standard is the plier-style blunt-tipped clippers, and they work like a charm. I prefer them over human clippers because human clippers do not allow for very long claws to be trimmed in one clip, and they have a distressing tendancy to slip up or down the nail. I use these clippers, and *love* them. http://www.petedge.com/jump.jsp?itemType=PRODUCT&itemID=823 Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid > Guillotines are eeeeeeevil. I don't know *any* groomers that > use them on cats or dogs. The professional standard is the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I use these clippers, and *love* them. > http://www.petedge.com/jump.jsp?itemType=PRODUCT&itemID=823 Those scare me, too. :) I'm no groomer, though, and my kids' nails never get overly long. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Support your local medical examiner: die strangely! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >rom: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net > I use these clippers, and *love* them. >http://www.petedge.com/jump.jsp?itemType=PRODUCT&itemID=823 Are they small enough for cats? Also, are they really sharp? My problem is I have never been able to find a good pair that are sharp enough. They all seem to smash the claw. Thanks, Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >>rom: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >have never been able to find a good pair that are sharp enough. They all seem >to smash the claw. They are definitely small enough for cats if you get the 'small' kind. They are nice and sharp, and I often take them home and clip my cats' claws with them too. However, eventually they will dull (for home use, I'd guesstimate two years or so, maybe even longer since you're only doing cats) and will need to either be replaced or professionally sharpened. A quick note -- as I am sure you know, cats' claws grow in layers, like an onion. Sometimes, if a claw sheath is about to come off, the act of clipping the claw will cause it to come off, partially or wholly. This is not damaging to the claw, and not painful. Be sure to cut nails on the angle where the claw is sideways (and flat) not on the angle where the claw is upright (and thin and rounded). Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >From: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net >>>rom: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >since you're only doing cats) and will need to either be replaced or >professionally sharpened. Oh, ok thanks. I think I may get a pair. I wonder if I can buy them locally, or only on line. Also, what is this guard thing they're talking about that it says it has so you don't cut too much nail? Can you move it out of the way if you don't want to use it? I'm telling you, I've been on a quest for a good pair of sciissors/clippers for years. > A quick note -- as I am sure you know, cats' claws grow in >layers, like an onion. Sometimes, if a claw sheath is about to come >off, the act of clipping the claw will cause it to come off, partially >or wholly. This is not damaging to the claw, and not painful. Be >sure to cut nails on the angle where the claw is sideways (and flat) >not on the angle where the claw is upright (and thin and rounded). Uh ok, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying exactly. Where is the claw upright? I only cut the sharp tips. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >Oh, ok thanks. I think I may get a pair. I wonder if I can buy them locally, >or only on line. Also, what is this guard thing they're talking about that it >says it has so you don't cut too much nail? Can you move it out of the way if >you don't want to use it? I'm telling you, I've been on a quest for a good >pair of sciissors/clippers for years. Try dropping in at your local groomer's and askign them if they carry them. If not, ask if they know of any local grooming supply houses. If not there either, try hitting a dog or cat show -- lots of good professional-quality equipment there. >> A quick note -- as I am sure you know, cats' claws grow in >>layers, like an onion. Sometimes, if a claw sheath is about to come [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Uh ok, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying exactly. Where is the >claw upright? I only cut the sharp tips. Okay. Um. How to explain this. The top of the claw is what you see if you look straight down at the cat's paw/claw. The side of the claw is if you look at the cat's paw/claw from the side. Always cut the claw with the clippers approaching the claw from the bottom up to the top, not from side to side. Bottom to top helps prevent splitting of the claw sheaths, side to side increases the risk. Make sense? Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >From: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net >>Oh, ok thanks. I think I may get a pair. I wonder if I can buy them >locally, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >supply houses. If not there either, try hitting a dog or cat show -- >lots of good professional-quality equipment there. Thanks, Orchid, that's a great idea! I'm going to do that for sure. The ones I've bought at pet supply stores have not been sharp at all. I have a whole drawer full of them. >>> A quick note -- as I am sure you know, cats' claws grow in >>>layers, like an onion. Sometimes, if a claw sheath is about to come [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Make sense? Absolutely, thanks! :) Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's >claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? >I've seen both used but since I will be starting to do this in the near >future (the vet showed us how today) I want to make sure the best and most >comfortable method is used. You want the scissor-style clipper designed for cats/small dogs. Not the guillotine clippers. The scissor style are safer, and unlike human clippers they don't have as much of a chance of crushing/splitting the new sheaths under the old. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid 2004: > You want the scissor-style clipper designed for cats/small > dogs. Not the guillotine clippers. The scissor style are safer, and > unlike human clippers they don't have as much of a chance of > crushing/splitting the new sheaths under the old. Have you a pic of the type you recommend? The one I use is scissor-like but with a guard outside of the cutting blades so you can't put too much of the claw into it and it only allows cutting off the point. And the scissor blades are rounded and thick for leverage. SignatureCheryl I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine. And he shall be my Squishy. Come here Squishy. Ow. Bad Squishy. - Dori http://www.petsmart.com/cat/shopping/grooming%5Fsupplies%5F%5F%5Ftools/nail%5Fcl ippers/products/product%5F19480.shtml http://tinyurl.com/ytcjb I have one of these, it works great. I tried the human clippers once.. it didn't work too well, and it was hard to get enough of the claw into the clippers. Jon > 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the claw into it and it only allows cutting off the point. And the scissor > blades are rounded and thick for leverage. 2004: > http://tinyurl.com/ytcjb Thanks Jon. You and Lyn posted a link to the same tool and I think I'll try that. I've been using this one: http://tinyurl.com/2ee55 I doubt I'll ever get Shadow used to getting his claws clipped at home; even the techs at the vets office have a hard time with him and his claws. He has literally no voice when he meows but I can hear him hollaring when they take him to the clipping room when they do it. He HATES it. I hope to be able to do Bonnie's some day... soon. SignatureCheryl I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine. And he shall be my Squishy. Come here Squishy. Ow. Bad Squishy. - Dori > 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the claw into it and it only allows cutting off the point. And the scissor > blades are rounded and thick for leverage. From an old post (link has a pic to the scissor clippers): My experience is that the more you do it, the more they get used to it. Good technique and tools are esssential. I like to use the small, blunt-nosed, notched, scissor-like clippers (Groommax Cat Nail Clippers http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_19480.shtml, as they are less obtrusive and easier to handle. (You may need to cut and paste the link to get it to work). I've trimmed claws on hundreds of cats (used to be a groomer), and those work for me. You will eventually find a set of tools and a routine that works for you, if you stick with it long enough. Also, the vet can give you lessons in technique if you need them. The method I use is this: While standing, place the cat on a folded towel, on an *unfamiliar*++ table, with his head to your left. Put his body close to yours so that you can lean to the outside (furthest from your body) and clip first the fronts, and then the backs (or vice-verse - I do both). When clipping the fronts, I pull the paw up and out, and kinda behind their head, so that if they do try to bite, they have to go past their own arm to do so, which gives me enough time to get away. When clipping the backs, I just pull the foot out, or in some cases, I gently flip it back. As I do the backs, I block the head with my arm and elbow, so that the cat can't reach around and bite. Flip kitty 180 degrees (this is why you have him on a towel), and repeat the procedure on the other side. Let go, and watch him fly! ;o) -L. >From: k3_e81@yahoo.com (-L.) >The method I use is this: > >While standing, place the cat on a folded towel, on an *unfamiliar*++ >table, with his head to your left. Put his body close to yours so >that you can lean to the outside (furthest from your body) and clip >first the fronts, and then the backs (or vice-verse - I do both). I've found the easiest way, for me at least, is to sit the cat on my lap, much like you would a child with the cat's backside against me and the legs pointing outward. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm 2004: > From an old post (link has a pic to the scissor clippers): > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Good technique and tools are esssential. I like to use the > small, blunt-nosed, notched, scissor-like clippers (Groommax Cat Nail <snip> Thanks, Lyn. I'm always on the lookout for an easier way to do this. Shadow, as you know is ~11-12 and I've never been able to clip his so they're always done at the vets. Shamrock is a little easier and I do his myself but I always have them do them when he's at the vet, too. Now, Bonnie, she is a different story. Her claws have never been clipped but I've been getting her used to having her paws handled and she sort of likes it. She is semi-feral but loves being touched... on her own terms. But she likes her paws rubbed. She just can't be picked up, yet. Little squirmy girl is very fast when she thinks I'm going to try to pick her up. She climbed up on my lap tonight for the first time. :) SignatureCheryl I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine. And he shall be my Squishy. Come here Squishy. Ow. Bad Squishy. - Dori > 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > squirmy girl is very fast when she thinks I'm going to try to pick her up. > She climbed up on my lap tonight for the first time. :) The technique I posted is the one we used at the vet. It combines the element of surprise with handling the cat so that you don't get bitten. Of couse, some still *tried* to bite, but at least I could get away. Peewee is my nail cat from hell. I have to totally catch him off guard, do one side and then let him go. Then I have to sneak up on him another day and do the other side. And I still haven't been able to clip my Basenji mix's nails but once. She's impossible! -L. 2004: > The technique I posted is the one we used at the vet. It combines the > element of surprise with handling the cat so that you don't get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > him another day and do the other side. And I still haven't been able > to clip my Basenji mix's nails but once. She's impossible! LOL I've tried everything with Shadow. Claw clipping is one of the only things that will make him bite me (ear cleaning is close second). He's usually very laid back. No experience with clipping dog claws so I can't imagine what that is like with your Basenji. :) Thanks for the addtl info, Lyn. It might come in handy for Bonnie. SignatureCheryl I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine. And he shall be my Squishy. Come here Squishy. Ow. Bad Squishy. - Dori >LOL I've tried everything with Shadow. Claw clipping is one of the only >things that will make him bite me (ear cleaning is close second). He's >usually very laid back. Daisy is my cat clipping cat from Hell. Her brother Mickey is a close second. I bought a "cat sack" for this chore, and cleaning ears would be done the same way. I have to wrestle each one into the sack, but once they're there, I'm finished with all the nails, front and back, in two minutes. Plug in "Cat Sack" on Google and you'll find several different models at a few internet pet supply places. they run around $25 and are worth it. > 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the claw into it and it only allows cutting off the point. And the scissor > blades are rounded and thick for leverage. From an old post (link has a pic to the scissor clippers): My experience is that the more you do it, the more they get used to it. Good technique and tools are esssential. I like to use the small, blunt-nosed, notched, scissor-like clippers (Groommax Cat Nail Clippers http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_19480.shtml, as they are less obtrusive and easier to handle. (You may need to cut and paste the link to get it to work). I've trimmed claws on hundreds of cats (used to be a groomer), and those work for me. You will eventually find a set of tools and a routine that works for you, if you stick with it long enough. Also, the vet can give you lessons in technique if you need them. The method I use is this: While standing, place the cat on a folded towel, on an *unfamiliar*++ table, with his head to your left. Put his body close to yours so that you can lean to the outside (furthest from your body) and clip first the fronts, and then the backs (or vice-verse - I do both). When clipping the fronts, I pull the paw up and out, and kinda behind their head, so that if they do try to bite, they have to go past their own arm to do so, which gives me enough time to get away. When clipping the backs, I just pull the foot out, or in some cases, I gently flip it back. As I do the backs, I block the head with my arm and elbow, so that the cat can't reach around and bite. Flip kitty 180 degrees (this is why you have him on a towel), and repeat the procedure on the other side. Let go, and watch him fly! ;o) -L. I never clip the claws. I don't think it's necessary and I doubt if they would let me do it anyway! The old sheaths fall off naturally. -MIKE > I never clip the claws. I don't think it's necessary and I doubt if > they would let me do it anyway! The old sheaths fall off naturally. It's necessary if your cat uses your shoulders as launchpads for ambitious leaps and landings. With untrimmed claws, the motley human's shoulder soon has the appearance of tenderised beef. Fortunately, my cat that does this has been exceptionally well socialised - to trim his pointy bits, I simply tuck him under one arm (I'm standing) and he'll usually extend his claws for me to snip. Rear claws are a little more trouble - I flip him onto his back on my lap, and will usually drape a towel across his front paws to prevent early escape. The other furry freak is a bit wary of even having his paws held. However, he is not a shoulder-springer, so I haven't done 'owt to his spiky weapons. I use scissors-style clippers that have a built in guard, supposedly to prevent the idiot human from chopping away too much claw. However the guard is too ambitious - relying on it would soon lead to bloodletting from both human and cat. Steve. > I never clip the claws. I don't think it's necessary It may become necessary. Some cats claws grow down and around, into their pads. Be sure to check them monthly. -L. Amber is 9 and Tiger is 4 1/2. They use the scratching post and frequently shed the outer husks (I save them in a jar). What do cats in the wild do - no one clips their claws? -MIKE >Amber is 9 and Tiger is 4 1/2. They use the scratching post and >frequently shed the outer husks (I save them in a jar). What do cats in >the wild do - no one clips their claws? > > -MIKE I would guess that cats in the wild suffer a bit from the claws being too long. I haven't really been cutting either of my cats much though, at least until they do something to remind me. Usually that something is painful or expensive. One is a long hair though, with hairy palms, and I've never managed to get more than two claws at a time. By the time I find them he's figured out what's going on and away he goes. > I would guess that cats in the wild suffer a bit from the claws being > too long. IMO, they would not, as the claws would get trimmed from climbing trees. At least my Aunt's indoor/outdoor kitties never needed clipped until they got too old to want to go in the yard and climb trees. 'Course, it's not like I have a ton of experience with wild kitties. YMMV Signature-- ~kaeli~ Support your local medical examiner: die strangely! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >> I never clip the claws. I don't think it's necessary > > It may become necessary. Some cats claws grow down and around, into > their pads. Be sure to check them monthly. It also keeps them from getting their claws stuck in things and having to try to pull it out (and the longer/sharper they are, the harder it is to pull out and it looks pretty painful). And with dogs, if you don't do it it's bad for their joints cause it starts making them walk on their toes wrong (cause the nails start pushing the toes up when they walk). Alice SignatureThe root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' tigressnospam@gtf.org '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. > I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's > claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? One for humans. About a buck or so at your local drug store. Just be careful about hitting the quick (IE, don't), and have some styptic in case you do. > I've seen both used but since I will be starting to do this in the near > future (the vet showed us how today) I want to make sure the best and > most comfortable method is used. Well... that's up to the cat in the end. Some cats cooperate and will be more than happy to let you clip their claws, others will fight you all the way. I've seen both, but if you're on a budget, just get the human nail clippers. SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- >> I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's >> claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? > > One for humans. About a buck or so at your local drug store. Just be > careful about hitting the quick (IE, don't), and have some styptic in case > you do. I have to disagree. I find my cats find the human one a lot more uncomfortable. If you think about it, the one for humans is designed to cut a more flat nail rather than a cylindrical nail. I just find my cats struggle a lot less and freak out when I'm cutting the claw a lot less if I use one designed for pets. Alice SignatureThe root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' tigressnospam@gtf.org '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. >From: ".oO rach Oo." reachin@anewrefutationoftimeandspace.com >claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? I use a little scissors made especially for cats. I have found, for me anyway, this is the easist tool to use. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > I was just wondering what your opinion is on the best tool to clip a cat's > claws. Would you use a nail clipper specifically for cats or one for humans? > I've seen both used but since I will be starting to do this in the near > future (the vet showed us how today) I want to make sure the best and most > comfortable method is used. I agree with Dennis C. I've used a human toenail clipper for years on kittens and on large adults with *consistently* quick and neat results. Frankly, I don't think there's anything quicker, because of the small size and easy manipulation of the toenail clipper. However, just like doing anything else, there's a right way and a wrong way to use a toenail clipper for trimming a cat's claws. The cross-section of each claw is an oblong shape. The verticle direction through a claw has a greater distance than does the horizontal direction. So if you orient the nail clipper the same way that you would orient it for clipping a human toenail, then you will shear through the longer dimension of the cross-section, and will run a high risk of crushing/splitting the claw. Thus, it's imperative to shear through the narrower, easier direction through the claw. Essentially you just rotate the clipper 90 degrees from the orientation that it would be used for a human toenail. Quick and easy! I've been trimming claws of my own cats and of my girlfriend's for years and never once have I split a claw with a toenail clipper when the clipper is properly oriented. >From: "Knack" zok9NOSPAM@hotmail.com >I've been trimming claws of my own cats and of my girlfriend's for years and >never once have I split a claw with a toenail clipper when the clipper is >properly oriented. Question: When you say toilnail clipper, are you talking about the ones that look like fingernail clippers but larger in size? Or are you talking about the toenail clippers that are a bit similar to regular scissors but have the thick head? I use the cat scissors but I'm not happy with them because they just don't seem sharp enough. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >Question: When you say toilnail clipper, are you talking about the ones that >look like fingernail clippers but larger in size? Or are you talking about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >head? I use the cat scissors but I'm not happy with them because they just >don't seem sharp enough. I used to use the toenail clippers that look like larger fingernail clippers, but just bought a new fingernail clipper because I thought the one I was using was not too sharp anymore. I don't know whether there is a difference among brands of clippers as to which is sharper, but it does make a difference to me having a new, sharp blade. It's true the toenail clipper is probably better for our largest cat's rear claws, which tend to be large and more rounded. Our other two cats have petite claws and I find the fingernail clipper works best with them. On the rear claws for the bigger cat, they are pretty blunt anyway so I really just cut off the very tip once a while, if it looks a little sharp. >From: yngver@aol.comnospam (Yngver) >>Question: When you say toilnail clipper, are you talking about the ones >that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >for the bigger cat, they are pretty blunt anyway so I really just cut off the >very tip once a while, if it looks a little sharp. Thanks, Yngver. I think I'm going to try the fingernail clippers I have. They're pretty sharp. I like the cat scissors because they're easy for me to use, but they are not sharp enough because it seems like they smash the claw a bit. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Hello! I have a bit of a problem with my Charley. He is 17 in May and never had his claws clipped in any way. as he never really liked his paws being touched and there has never been much problem about it, i just let him scratch. He had his scratching sites (front legs of our kitchen table, mostly, but lately they do get very long. Now my thinking is, do you think it better to go to the vets or should I try myself? I am a good learner if I am told what to do, and charley hates the vets, or better he hates to get out of the door. He is always very very close to an enormous nervous breakdown when he has to go out. It would be another 5 months until our regular visit, and as I said hes 17. I dont want him to be as frightened as he always gets. I dont know where he got this fear of the outdoors from, otherwise hes very easygoing, and there never has been any harm done (other than the usual vets things that every cat gets) to him on the other side of the door. I wish we had vets doing house visits... |
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