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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2004laser declaw question on alt med vet
Hiya , If any one has a minute, can you reply to the laser declaw question on alt med vet -:(( . The question is - *Does anyone know about what it costs for a laser declaw surgery? My vet (Which does not do it) said she was not sure how much it was but heard that it was "quite expensive". I heard it was supposed to be less painfull and heals quicker then conventional declaw surgery.* Alison Do you have to start the declaw debate all over again? No one here is going to give you the answer that you want. -MIKE > Do you have to start the declaw debate all over again? No one here is > going to give you the answer that you want. > > -MIKE ???? Why not read the post again . *I'm* not asking a question so therefore not looking for an awswer. doh! Alison > ???? Why not read the post again . *I'm* not asking a question so > therefore not looking for an awswer. doh! > Alison Even so, asking this question here is like asking opinions of abortion on soc.women. It's a spectacularly good way to start a flame war.  SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- > > Even so, asking this question here is like asking opinions of abortion on > soc.women. It's a spectacularly good way to start a flame war. > > -- > Dennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, > http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. > ------------------------------------+------------------------------- Dennis, I've been posting to this newsgroup for 3 years so I hope that people know me well enough by now to know that I'm not trying to start a war. I was asking for people to respond to the question on alt vet med , however I think the OP could be a troll as she posted about laser declaw videos on another group. Alison My 7month old kitten just had her laser spay surgery today. I was amazed at the cleanliness of the scar, no stitches, less blood and less pain for her. The same vet was trained on laser declawing but there is no way in hell I would have her declawed. She started clawing the sofa a while ago so I went to the pet store and bought a bottle of No Scratch by Pet Organics. It has the smell of garlic and cloves and the cats ( I have two ) do not like it at all. Delilah (the older kitten) has stopped scratching altogether other than her post and Stella (the little one) is learning. My point is... I would rather spend $15 on a bottle of this stuff than put my girls through anything that isn't absolutely necessary for their health. When my fianc? and I adopted the kittens from the animal rescue, we agreed that we were taking on a responsibility. With that responsibility comes compassion for our little family members. Painless or not, it isn't necessary if we are doing OUR job in gently teaching them what is acceptable in our and their home and what isn't. Would YOU have surgery just for the hell of it or would you search out alternatives? Just think about it -- rach "Hipsters - UNITE!" > Hiya , > If any one has a minute, can you reply to the laser declaw question [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Alison Sorry , if I haven't made myself clear. I'm asking if anyone can answer the person Wheyface posting on news:alt.med.veterinary I'm hoping you will be able to dissuade the person from doing this . Alison > Hiya , > If any one has a minute, can you reply to the laser declaw question [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Alison > Sorry , if I haven't made myself clear. > I'm asking if anyone can answer the person Wheyface posting on > news:alt.med.veterinary > > I'm hoping you will be able to dissuade the person from doing this . > Alison If they know the risks and know alternatives, and want to do it anyway, there is little anyone can say that will change their minds. Show them the usual - if they aren't dissuaded, they're just cruel people who do as they want to the beings they're supposed to care for. Only laws protect animals from people like that. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Every calendar's days are numbered. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >From: "Alison" alison@Xallofus2X.fsnet.co.uk >Sorry , if I haven't made myself clear. >I'm asking if anyone can answer the person Wheyface posting on >news:alt.med.veterinary Well I certainlly think you made yourself crystal clear, Alison. I guess some people read a post quickly and don't pay attention??? Anyway, I'll make a response to the person on alt.med.vet Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Hi Lauren and Kaeli, I think it's important to say something even if the person doesn't change their mind and one reason is because other people reading the post will think its ok to have their cat declawed. I often wonder how many people all over the world read these messages. Alison > >From: "Alison" alison@Xallofus2X.fsnet.co.uk > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > Hi Lauren and Kaeli, > I think it's important to say something even if the person > doesn't change their mind and one reason is because other people > reading the post will think its ok to have their cat declawed. > I often wonder how many people all over the world read these messages. > Alison Well, yeah, one should say something, but I assume people have already pointed out why declawing is evil. Silence is implicit consent, I agree. I can't get the alt groups here, so I never end up going over there. I'd never be off Usenet. *g* Signature-- ~kaeli~ Practice safe eating - always use condiments. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > I can't get the alt groups here, so I never end up going over there. I'd > never be off Usenet. *g* I know *exactly* what you mean ! Sometimes I think I'll just check for e.mails and I just have to check out the groups as well! Alison > -- > -- > ~kaeli~ > Practice safe eating - always use condiments. > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >From: "Alison" alison@Xallofus2X.fsnet.co.uk > I think it's important to say something even if the person >doesn't change their mind and one reason is because other people >reading the post will think its ok to have their cat declawed. >I often wonder how many people all over the world read these messages. > Alison I did make a post and I agree with you. Even if it doesn't sink in with the OP, it might with someone who is lurking. I think declawing is one of the most horrific things that can be done to an animal :( Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: "Alison" alison@Xallofus2X.fsnet.co.uk > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lauren Hi Lauren, Thanks for posting. I'm sure it makes a difference. I usually give the website links but that's not always enough. After Mike's post I thought I'd better check out the OP and I think she is a troll-:(. Her odd name should have given me a clue. Alison > ________ > See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe > Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I was going to have our kitten declawed but after reading these newsgroups and doing research, I couldn't bear to do it. I have leather furniture, daycare kids and fabric wall coverings and I did not see how a cat with claws could coexist. Well, I have not had any major problems. I purchased 2 ceiling to floor cat platform trees at Walmart and a few scratching posts and the kitty has almost exclusively used these to scratch. In fact, after climbing the platform tree, I found that her 'scratching' has decreased significantly. She has learned to be very careful with her claws when playing. This is an abandoned feral kitty that we took in at about 1 to 2 months old. > >From: "Alison" alison@Xallofus2X.fsnet.co.uk > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > I was going to have our kitten declawed but after reading these newsgroups > and doing research, I couldn't bear to do it. I have leather furniture, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > playing. This is an abandoned feral kitty that we took in at about 1 to 2 > months old. What a happy testimonial to giving a cat proper places to claw! Thanks for posting. Karen |
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