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Jon C - 06 Jan 2004 02:44 GMT

For the record, here are some pertinent as-fed numbers for Chicken Soup for
the Cat Lover's Soul:

Canned formula:
Moisture 75.6%
Protein 11.5% (63.5 g/100kcal)
Fat 7.7% (42.5 g/100kcal)
Ash 2% (10.8 g/100kcal)
Fiber 0.3% (1.6 g/100kcal)
Carbs 3% (16.3 g/100kcal)
Phosphorus 0.4% (221 mg/100kcal)
Calcium 0.6% (331 mg/100kcal)

181 kcal/100g
282 kcal/can

Dry formula:
Moisture 8.5%
Protein 30.8% (7.9 g/100kcal)
Fat 20% (5.1 g/100kcal)
Ash 6.1% (1.6 g/100kcal)
Fiber 3% (0.76 g/100kcal)
Carbs 31.6% (8.1 g/100kcal)
Phosphorus 0.9% (229 mg/100kcal)
Calcium 1% (255 mg/100kcal)

3922 kcal/kg
367 kcal/cup

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Steve Crane - 06 Jan 2004 13:10 GMT

> For the record, here are some pertinent as-fed numbers for Chicken Soup for
> the Cat Lover's Soul:
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> 181 kcal/100g
> 282 kcal/can

Converting the As feds to Dry Matter Basis
Calcium 2.45% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 1.0%
Phosphorus 1.64% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 0.9%

> Dry formula:
> Moisture 8.5%
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> 3922 kcal/kg
> 367 kcal/cup

Converting the As feds to Dry Matter Basis
Calcium 1.09% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 1.0%
Phosphorus 0.98% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 0.9%

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Jon C - 06 Jan 2004 14:49 GMT

> Converting the As feds to Dry Matter Basis
> Calcium 2.45% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 1.0%
> Phosphorus 1.64% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 0.9%

Max recommended by whom? I believe I remember seeing those levels as the
"recommended levels" not the *max* recommended levels. Either way, I'd love
to know exactly where this info comes from and where I could find it.

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Steve Crane - 06 Jan 2004 22:20 GMT

> > Converting the As feds to Dry Matter Basis
> > Calcium 2.45% Maximum recommended levels for adult cats is 1.0%
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> "recommended levels" not the *max* recommended levels. Either way, I'd love
> to know exactly where this info comes from and where I could find it.

Key Nutritional Factors Adult cat young to middle age.
min-max Dry matter basis
Protein 30-45%
Fat 10-30%
Calcium 0.5-1.0%
Phosphorus 0.5-0.8%
Magnesium 0.04-0.1%
Sodium 0.2-0.6%

KNF's for older cats
min-max Dry matter basis
Protein 30-45%
Fat 10-25%
Calcium 0.6-1.0%
Phosphorus 0.5-0.7%
Magnesium 0.05-0.1%
Sodium 0.2-0.5%

Source: Small Animal Clinical Nutrition Page 309

Authors of this chapter include:

Claudia A. Kirk, DVM, PhD, Diplomate American College of Veterinary
Internal Medicine, Diplomate American College of Veterinary Nutrition,
University of Tennesee College of Veterinary Medicine.

Jacques DeBraekeleer, DVM PhD, Diplomate ACVIM, Adjunct Professor of
of Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Veterinary Faculty of the State
University Gent, Belgium.

P. Jane Armstrong DVM MS Diplomate American College of Veterinary
Internal Medicine, Professor Internal Medicine Clinical Nutrition,
College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Minnesota, St. Paul
Minnesota.

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