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Charles M - 12 Sep 2005 13:53 GMT
I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
return addresses. What happened?

CMM
Barb - 12 Sep 2005 14:30 GMT
I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll on
down further and look for some familiar names.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
Charles M - 12 Sep 2005 14:12 GMT
>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll on
>down further and look for some familiar names.

On further investigation all originate form ( or say they do) x-trace
a domain like:

flash.seas.smu.edu 1126529909 9499 129.119.164.204 (12 Sep 2005
12:58:29 GMT)

Anyone know how to filter on x-trace or domain (IP address)?

CMM
5cats - 12 Sep 2005 14:21 GMT
>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are
>>these guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> CMM

The reader I'm using apparently can't do it, xnews only filters on a few
limited header fields, so I'm in the market for a new newsreader.

Any suggestions?
BBob - 12 Sep 2005 15:54 GMT
>>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are
>>>these guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Any suggestions?

This will teach you to f.ck with my friends. Behave and the levee shall be
repaired.
5cats - 12 Sep 2005 16:02 GMT
>>>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are
>>>>these guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> This will teach you to f.ck with my friends. Behave and the levee
> shall be repaired.

Keep dreaming. Maybe someday you WILL find someone even more stupid than
yourself who will accept you as a friend.


BBob - 12 Sep 2005 16:04 GMT
>>>>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are
>>>>>these guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Keep dreaming. Maybe someday you WILL find someone even more stupid than
> yourself who will accept you as a friend.

Good cupcake, You fetch well, Would you like to become my pet?

Fetch.....>
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 16:58 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:02:55 -0500,  wrote:

>>>>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are
>>>>>these guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Keep dreaming. Maybe someday you WILL find someone even more stupid than
>yourself who will accept you as a friend.

Do you always fetch?
AZ Nomad - 12 Sep 2005 14:44 GMT
>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>>guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll on
>>down further and look for some familiar names.

>On further investigation all originate form ( or say they do) x-trace
>a domain like:

> flash.seas.smu.edu 1126529909 9499 129.119.164.204 (12 Sep 2005
>12:58:29 GMT)

>Anyone know how to filter on x-trace or domain (IP address)?

It depends on your newsreader.  RFTM and if it can't do it then get a
real newsreader.
BBob - 12 Sep 2005 16:00 GMT
>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>>guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Anyone know how to filter on x-trace or domain (IP address)?

There is no excaping
Wendy - 12 Sep 2005 14:17 GMT
>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
> guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Of course I don't look busy,
> I did it right the first time.

Not the brightest person doing it. At the moment a few message rules will
get rid of the majority of it.

W
Charles M - 12 Sep 2005 14:26 GMT
>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>> guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>W

If it helps, I also found:

X-Complaints-To:    abuse@engr.smu.edu

in the email. (Again assuming this is real information).

CMM
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 15:33 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:26:23 GMT,  wrote:

>>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>>> guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>CMM
You netkkkop that proxy,  LOL
Betsy - 12 Sep 2005 15:18 GMT
Could you please help me and share the rules ?

>>I don't know.  A ton of messages from one individual and today- are these
>> guys trying to be poets or something?  Meaningless drivel.  I will scroll
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> W
Wendy - 12 Sep 2005 18:37 GMT
> Could you please help me and share the rules ?

Look for common words in the subject line. Then if you're using OE go to
tools/message rules/news click on new and check out the options. Plug in the
common word(s) into the appropriate place and tell it to delete. poof! gone.

W
---MIKE--- - 12 Sep 2005 14:21 GMT
>>I will scroll on down further and look for
>> some familiar names.

Don't bother.  All 1500 positions have been used by this hacker.  The
anecdote group has the same problem.  Someone (Mary?) has it in for
these groups.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Magic Mood Jeep© - 12 Sep 2005 15:32 GMT
>>> I will scroll on down further and look for
>>> some familiar names.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>> In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>  >> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')

Yes, and whomever it is, is using a "bot" to generate meaningless streams of
words.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 16:57 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:32:04 GMT,  wrote:

>>>> I will scroll on down further and look for
>>>> some familiar names.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Yes, and whomever it is, is using a "bot" to generate meaningless streams of
>words.

DAMN!  There's no getting past you is there?

< SNICKER >
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 15:33 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:21:47 -0400,  wrote:

>>>I will scroll on down further and look for
>>> some familiar names.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
> >> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')

Hacker? You're a bit new to this huh?
Charlotte - 12 Sep 2005 16:47 GMT
Kat wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:21:47 -0400,  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Hacker? You're a bit new to this huh?

Not to mention that this is not Mary's style.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 16:57 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:47:37 +0200 (CEST),  wrote:

>Kat wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Not to mention that this is not Mary's style.

Who's Mary? Is she purty?
J. Warrick - 12 Sep 2005 16:48 GMT
> >>I will scroll on down further and look for
> >> some familiar names.
>
> Don't bother.  All 1500 positions have been used by this hacker.  The
> anecdote group has the same problem.  Someone (Mary?) has it in for
> these groups.

It's not Mary. She is the one being harassed. Get a clue.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 16:59 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:48:50 +0200 (CEST),  wrote:

>> >>I will scroll on down further and look for
>> >> some familiar names.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>It's not Mary. She is the one being harassed. Get a clue.

See what happens when you harass someone?
AZ Nomad - 12 Sep 2005 14:43 GMT
>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>return addresses. What happened?

It's a flood from engr.smu.edu.

If your newsreader isn't a complete piece of garbage, put in a filter
for 'X-Complaints-To: abuse@engr.smu.edu' and the flood will vanish.
John Doe - 12 Sep 2005 14:50 GMT
>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>different return addresses. What happened?

> It's a flood from engr.smu.edu.

Or it might be a flood from someone(s) who wants that abuse
department to receive lots of e-mail complaints.

That's one way malicious trolls operate on USENET.

I suggest complaining to your own ISP, including header
information and of course the group name(s).
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 15:34 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:50:12 GMT,  wrote:

>>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>>different return addresses. What happened?
>
>> It's a flood from engr.smu.edu.
>
>Or it might be a  < SLAP >

Run along doe doe, It's time for the big boys to play.
John Doe - 13 Sep 2005 00:42 GMT
XNoArchive troll

> Path: newssvr19.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!news.alt.net!usenet
> From: Katz<katz yahoo.com>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Run along doe doe, It's time for the big boys to play.

             
AZ Nomad - 13 Sep 2005 00:12 GMT
>>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>>different return addresses. What happened?

>> It's a flood from engr.smu.edu.

>Or it might be a flood from someone(s) who wants that abuse
>department to receive lots of e-mail complaints.

And as a denial of service attack against smu.edu.  If I don't periodically
clean out my killfile, I'll never see any more posts from anybody at smu.edu.
BBob - 12 Sep 2005 16:06 GMT
>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
> return addresses. What happened?

The levee broke, When you mess with us, you get to go swimming.
5cats - 12 Sep 2005 16:17 GMT
>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>> return addresses. What happened?
>>
> The levee broke, When you mess with us, you get to go swimming.

In other words, some fecal-matter for brains script-kiddie-wannabe got a
hold of a spam generating bot program.
BBob - 12 Sep 2005 16:21 GMT
>>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>>> return addresses. What happened?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> In other words, some fecal-matter for brains script-kiddie-wannabe got a
> hold of a spam generating bot program.

Fetch....>
J. Warrick - 12 Sep 2005 16:54 GMT
> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
> >> return addresses. What happened?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> In other words, some fecal-matter for brains script-kiddie-wannabe got a
> hold of a spam generating bot program.

Not quite. If you want to know why, look at the responses made by
the group rec.pets.anecdotes to the first appearance of someone
they do not like. And know that behind the public responses are
private campaigns to silence those they do not like (whom they
call "trolls") by launching massive abuse reports to their Internet
Service Providers. Look at those who are harassing and stalking
on-topic users of these groups. That is what pisses people off.

Krazy Kat and his friends provide a good example of what a real
troll is. Remember that the next time you decide to apply the
term to someone you simply do not like. And thank the netcopping
a.sholes in both h+b and rpca for the problems in both groups. Then
learn to live and let live and use your killfile.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 17:01 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:54:44 +0200 (CEST),  wrote:

>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>> >> return addresses. What happened?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>a.sholes in both h+b and rpca for the problems in both groups. Then
>learn to live and let live and use your killfile.

Well said.
5cats - 12 Sep 2005 17:21 GMT
>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> a.sholes in both h+b and rpca for the problems in both groups. Then
> learn to live and let live and use your killfile.

I don't know what you're talking about and I don't want to know the
history of any of the flame wars going on.

What I do know is that there is no such thing as "live and let live" for
script-kiddie newsgroup flooders.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 17:38 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:21:35 -0500,  wrote:

>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>What I do know is that there is no such thing as "live and let live" for
>script-kiddie newsgroup flooders.

And just what are you going to do about it?
BBob - 12 Sep 2005 17:49 GMT
>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> What I do know is that there is no such thing as "live and let live" for
> script-kiddie newsgroup flooders.

Like there is anything you can do about it?
cathy1234@mailinator.com - 12 Sep 2005 18:07 GMT
> Like there is anything you can do about it?

Of course there is.... I'm gonna tell my Mommy.... she'll fix you. ;)
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 19:04 GMT
On 12 Sep 2005 10:07:00 -0700,  wrote:

>> Like there is anything you can do about it?
>
>Of course there is.... I'm gonna tell my Mommy.... she'll fix you. ;)

Does she have big titties?
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 12 Sep 2005 19:09 GMT
Why, were you not breastfed as a baby?  You must remember surely.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 19:18 GMT
On 12 Sep 2005 11:09:08 -0700,  wrote:

>Why, were you not breastfed as a baby?  You must remember surely.

Why do you ask? Obsessed?
cathy1234@mailinator.com - 12 Sep 2005 19:28 GMT
> On 12 Sep 2005 10:07:00 -0700,  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Does she have big titties?

Yep. and a big wooden spoon too.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 19:58 GMT
On 12 Sep 2005 11:28:51 -0700,  wrote:

>> On 12 Sep 2005 10:07:00 -0700,  wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Yep. and a big wooden spoon too.

Pleze explain the spoon.
Wendy - 12 Sep 2005 18:41 GMT
>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> What I do know is that there is no such thing as "live and let live" for
> script-kiddie newsgroup flooders.

Oh man! If you see a dog turd laying in the road you walk around it and
leave it there - ya don't step in it. So treat a post you don't like the
same way.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 19:05 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:41:51 -0400,  wrote:

>>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>leave it there - ya don't step in it. So treat a post you don't like the
>same way.

He won't, he's an idiot. Now about you Wendy, Ya got nice titties?
5cats - 12 Sep 2005 19:22 GMT
>>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> leave it there - ya don't step in it. So treat a post you don't like the
> same way.

One post, even a dozen posts - sure I'll ignore it. But literaly
*thousands* of nonsense posts in the course of a few hours is a Denial Of
Service attack, not just a troll.
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 19:58 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:22:14 -0500,  wrote:

>>>>> >>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all
>>>>> >>different
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>*thousands* of nonsense posts in the course of a few hours is a Denial Of
>Service attack, not just a troll.

What is it then?
Katz - 12 Sep 2005 16:58 GMT
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:17:07 -0500,  wrote:

>>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>>> return addresses. What happened?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>In other words, some fecal-matter for brains script-kiddie-wannabe got a
>hold of a spam generating bot program.

Does that bother you?
SorryForTheFakeAddress@noplace.net.invalid - 12 Sep 2005 16:34 GMT
>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>return addresses. What happened?

It's called flooding a group and it's one abuse *OF* the net that
providers will act on. ( Rather than abuse *ON* the net like flame
wars and trolling.) Everyone report it to the smu ( Southern
Methodist University) abuse address in the header.

X-Complaints-To: abuse@engr.smu.edu

They are going to take a dim view of abuse from their server. It must
be the endless September all over again as the college students
return to classes.

Sorry for the fake address. I want to stay below the radar on this
one.
mldriggs - 12 Sep 2005 16:44 GMT
>>I can't even find a real message this morning. All spam, all different
>>return addresses. What happened?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Sorry for the fake address. I want to stay below the radar on this
> one.

Why? You scared?

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