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Strange story/how do I trap a stray cat? (slightly long)

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Marcie - 27 Dec 2003 19:39 GMT
About a month ago, one of my closest friends died suddenly of a
massive heart attack at the age of 53. He was like a brother to me. It
was a great shock and since then, I have been struggling to cope with
the loss.

I can't remember when it was, but I was driving home from work when I
called out to my friend and asked him to give me a sign of some sort
that he was out there.

Well, a day or so later (I think two weeks ago Friday), I first
noticed the yowlings of a cat in the next door neighbor's yard, and
then he gravitated towards my yard. This doesn't happen often and when
it does, my strictly indoor cats (Cleo and Enkidu) go nuts. This time
they seemed calmer than usual. Also, this cat stuck around (the ones
that come into the yard usually don't). I also saw it on Saturday.

On Sunday, I came home from work to find the cat on top of the storage
hut directly outside my house, meowing very loudly. It was as though
he was saying "HEY, I'M TALKING TO YOU! LISTEN TO ME - NOWWWW (this is
not unlike the way my friend would talk to me sometimes:)! I finally
gave in and fed him some dry cat food. He was very wary at first, but
eventually he came round and ate all the food.

The cat settled in and perched in the little sheltered alcove right
underneath my side window. He only meowed when I passed by the window
and he could see me. I placed a mat down on the floor so that he
wouldn't come in direct contact with the cold ground.

The next morning, he was perched again on the storage hut, waiting for
his breakfast. I have tons of canned cat food and some dry food in the
house that my other cats don't like, so there is plenty to feed him.
This time when I gave him the food, he came up and rubbed against me.

It occured to me that morning that maybe my friend, who loved animals
and always kept a cat or two at home has indeed left me a sign?

It's been two weeks now and the cat (a tabby tom) who I've named
Scamito, has a bed (a cat carrier with soft bedding) that I've placed
on a shelf in the little alcove. I leave him dry cat food and place
some canned food out each morning. He's been coming and going now for
the past two weeks.

I'd like to trap him - but he is a bit on the wild side (certainly not
vicious). I'm concerned as there is a rabies alert in my neighborhood
and I really need to get him vaccinated. He's scratched me once on the
leg (I got a tetanus shot and kept an eye on him for 10 days after
that) and again slightly a few days ago when I've put out his food (I
was even wearing garden gloves). I think he just gets carried away or
is frightened of my hand. I also have a feeling he was abused and
dumped, because he is not at all scrawny. (He is actually quite pretty
with quizzical look on his face).

I'm nervous when I don't see him for more than 24 hours, the last time
I saw him was yesterday afternoon - in his bed. I know he was here
during the night because I saw "dents" in the food bowl.

The question is, do I have any hope of gaining this animal's trust? Is
there a chance he would calm down enough? The cat carrier now has the
door attached to it and the only time I can take him to the vet is in
the late afternoons when I come home from work. So it is a question of
luck if he is in his bed at the time and I can get the door closed. Is
it realistic to hope that someday I can get him to the vet,
innoculated and possibly fixed?

I think he has a bad case of worms (he had the runs) and I got a worm
pill from the vet and put it into his food (which he has thankfully
eaten).

I know it is a long, complicated haul but for obvious reasons I feel
an affinity for this cat and want to make the effort.

Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
stray?)

Your comments/stories would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!

Marcie
MacCandace - 27 Dec 2003 19:50 GMT
<< Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
stray?)>>

I'm sure Megan or Arjun or some of the poeple experienced in rescue will give
you some good advice soon but I think it's very promising that he already
sleeps in a carrier with the door on it.  Some stray cats are wary of those.
You could get him in the morning while he's in the bed and shut the door then
and then put the carrier with him in it somewhere safe and warm until you get
home from work, your bathroom or an extra bedroom.  He won't be happy, of
course, but it would be ultimately for his own good.  Has he been neutered?
You should do that, too, while you have him at the vet and let him stay there
for a couple days to recover if you are going to keep him as an outside cat.
Maybe you can acclimate him to an indoor life with your own cats?

Maybe if you can catch him in the morning, instead of keeping the carrier in a
safe place until you get home from work, you could just drop him off at the
vet's on your way into work and they could just get him vaccinated and neutered
then.  But if you are going to release him again to the outdoors, it would be
best to let him recuperate at the vet's for a day or 2 especially if it's cold
where you live.

It's nice that you are helping him.  I hope it all works out.  Keep us posted.

Candace
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Cheryl - 27 Dec 2003 22:27 GMT
Dec 2003:

> Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
> stray?)

Yes indeed.  I think the sooner you trap him and find out if he is
neutered, and get it done if not, the better.  I've trapped some strays and
it was best to do so before they actually got to know me.  At first I
thought, oh great.  I'll never see them again. But they surprised me and
stuck around.  They became very friendly to me after neutering and two of
them were adopted by a guy I work with, and one other I kept.  The two that
went off to a new home have become WONDERFUL pets.  Their new slave loves
them to pieces.  I recently got pictures of them and put them into an
online album along with pictures from before they were adopted.
http://community.webshots.com/album/106187295IgNCBk?362

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Marcie - 28 Dec 2003 03:39 GMT
> > Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
> > stray?)
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> it was best to do so before they actually got to know me.  At first I
> thought, oh great.  I'll never see them again.  

Thanks Candace and Cheryl for your helpful comments.. it sure does
sound encouraging! Cheryl - what beautiful pictures!

I know for a fact that he hasn't been neutered (I was able to get a
look). I'm aware that the sooner this gets done he will calm down.

My biggest fear now is that I know he hasn't been here for 24 hours.
He seems to be coming less and less while I'm around (maybe the taste
of the worm pill put him off!).

The problem is, he batted me 3 days ago through the garden gloves and
pricked me with one of his claws and drew blood. I immediately washed
it with soap, water and put alcohol on it.

If I don't see him for another day or don't see signs that he has
eaten - should I go and start a series of rabies shots?  I know the
chances of a cat contracting rabies are relatively low, but I'm really
scared now.
Someone - 28 Dec 2003 03:44 GMT
> If I don't see him for another day or don't see signs that he has
> eaten - should I go and start a series of rabies shots?  I know the
> chances of a cat contracting rabies are relatively low, but I'm really
> scared now.

I've never heard of anyone getting rabies from a scratch.
MaryL - 28 Dec 2003 09:01 GMT
> > If I don't see him for another day or don't see signs that he has
> > eaten - should I go and start a series of rabies shots?  I know the
> > chances of a cat contracting rabies are relatively low, but I'm really
> > scared now.
>
> I've never heard of anyone getting rabies from a scratch.

Personally, I think this is a question for a doctor.  I think the problem
would occur if any saliva could have gotten into the scratch (not the
scratch itself) -- but I wouldn't want to make that kind of decision without
more knowledge of exactly what happened.

MaryL
Marcie - 29 Dec 2003 04:26 GMT
> > I've never heard of anyone getting rabies from a scratch.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> MaryL

Hi All, I'm happy to report that I found Scamito on the window ledge
digging in to his bowl of Royal Canin this morning. He then spotted
another cat, began yowling at it and chased the cat away. You should
have heard the commotion! I think he was defending his new
territory?!?!?!

I couldn't agree more with regards to your a/m comment MaryL.

As of yesterday; when I hadn't spotted or had any signs of him for
over 24 hrs, I had no choice but to report the incident to the health
services. They do not take any chances here (I live in Jerusalem).
They open up a file and do a follow up for 10 days and then close the
file after I've seen the cat for that period of time.

I have no way of knowing if there was saliva on the claw at the time
of the scratch. A face-to-face consult with a doctor is therefore
imperative as they're the ones who can make an educated evaluation.
After the doc heard my account and looked at the scratch (more like a
pin prick through my garden glove), which I immediately washed with
soap and water and then put alcohol on it, didn't think there'd be any
need for rabies shots even if the cat didn't show up. As a matter of
fact, she seemed certain the cat would show up again with the next
couple of days. Which he did!!

Anyway, he is now relaxing in his bed after his ordeal and so can I
for the time being!

Marcie
-L. - 28 Dec 2003 09:04 GMT
> > > Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
> > > stray?)
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> chances of a cat contracting rabies are relatively low, but I'm really
> scared now.

I wouldn't worry about it too much - unless you suspect there was
saliva on the wound.  As far as I have been able to research, there
are no reported cases of rabies transferred to humans by cats.

There were approx 295 reported cases of feline rabies in 2000, in the
US.  That's out of approx 50 million household cats and an unspecified
number of ferals.  Also during 2000, there were four cases of rabies
in humans which orginated within the US - all were from bats.

Source:  JAVMA 219(12):1687-1699 (2001, Public Veterinary Medicine:
Public Health, "Rabies surveillance in the United States during 2000",
John W. Krebs, MS; Alison M. Mondul, BS; Charle E. Rupprecht, VMD,
PhD; James E. Childs, ScD

There may be more recent stats but I don't have them yet.

HTH,
-L.
Mary - 28 Dec 2003 02:17 GMT
>Has anyone had any experiences similar to this one (ie trapping a
>stray?)

I use hav-a-hart traps. Just put some of his favorite smelly mackeral wet food
in there and he should go in. Put a towel over the trap and take him to the
vet. Check the trap twice a day. Try to put the trap out with the food in it
right next to where you feed him at his dinner time. This way you won't trap
other cats instead. Good luck and thanks for caring for the cat. I think your
friend was talking to you.
Someone - 28 Dec 2003 02:54 GMT
> I'd like to trap him - but he is a bit on the wild side (certainly not
> vicious). I'm concerned as there is a rabies alert in my neighborhood
> and I really need to get him vaccinated.

I wouldn't "trap" him.  Instead, take your time and do it my way.
Almost every cat I've ever owned has been feral or close to it.
They begin to hang around (I must have secret kitty marks on
the curb or something) and seem to want to be taken in but their
nature won't allow it.  So what I do is put food out, like you've done.
You're much further along than you think.  I usually have to put the
dish half way between me and the cat and walk away before it
feels safe enough to approach the dish.  As the days go by, I put
the dish a little closer to the house until, eventually, they will eat
from it with me right there.

Then I use a garden glove (my vet has these full-arm-length jobs
he uses with feral cats but I've never needed them) to touch the
cat while he is watching me.  That takes days before they allow
that, and even then it is tentative.  Eventually, though, they become
used to it.

The next step is to work the food dish into the house.  Once they
come in (always leave the door open so they know they can make
a getaway), they will look around the house.  Some catnip might
help here too.  Eventually, they will find a spot in the house where
they will sleep.  All of this takes days, remember.  Eventually, they
will be on your lap.

At this stage, you are close to having a "normal" cat.  It is usually
kind of stinky if it's an unaltered male.  After a week or so, if
everything has progressed smoothly, he can take his little trip to
the vet to get his shots, neutering, etc.  And then you'll have a happy,
healthy and non-stinky pet who will be devoted to you for saving it
from the feral life.  (And the vet will be thankful he doesn't have to
work on a totally feral cat!)

Anyway, that's been my experience and method.  Like I said, it
sounds like you're pretty far along.  I'd spend more time trying
to get the little fellow accustomed to human contact so you could
make the trip to the vet less traumatic for you, the cat, and the vet.

Good luck!
Cheryl - 28 Dec 2003 02:58 GMT
>> I'd like to trap him - but he is a bit on the wild side (certainly not
>> vicious). I'm concerned as there is a rabies alert in my neighborhood
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>
> Good luck!

Of course you don't want to do this if you already have cats in your house.    
There needs to be a quarentine period for any new ones.

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