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Ruby Tuesday - 21 Dec 2003 22:09 GMT
Hi,

I have a Siamese kitten (6 months), who now can jump up on my dresser and
dining table.   My problem is this:  at night, when I'm ready to go to
sleep, he wakes up (from having slept through most of the the day), goes and
does some stuff, then jumps up on my dresser.   I wouldn't ordinarily mind,
but I keep my jewlery on a bulletin board just above my dresser, and he
loves to make my jewlery into toys.

I've tried spraying water in his face, to no avail.  What ends up happening
is I kick him out of my room for the night.   I don't want to do this, I'd
like him to sleep with me.  But kick him out I must and therefore do.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep him off of my dresser?

Thanks,

- Ruby Tuesday
PawsForThought - 21 Dec 2003 22:16 GMT
>From: "Ruby Tuesday" willow93@yahoo.com

>I have a Siamese kitten (6 months), who now can jump up on my dresser and
>dining table.   My problem is this:  at night, when I'm ready to go to
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>- Ruby Tuesday

It's actually very simple.  Put your jewelry in a drawer :)

Lauren
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Karen - 21 Dec 2003 22:22 GMT
> Hi,
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> - Ruby Tuesday

Put up some large objects or one big object that makes it so he can't
sit up there. After a while, he just won't. Antoher thought is to move
the jewelry.

Karen
Sherry - 21 Dec 2003 23:15 GMT
>Hi,
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>- Ruby Tuesday

Put your jewelry up. It's much more humane than leaving it out to tempt him,
then spraying him in the face.

Sherry
BarB - 22 Dec 2003 01:21 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>- Ruby Tuesday

Give it up. Put away the jewelry. You aren't going to win this game.
He now knows how to get your undivided attention. :)  

BarB
GovtLawyer - 22 Dec 2003 03:03 GMT
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep him off of my dresser?

You can't keep him off of your dresser; he's a cat?  There is very little you
can do to keep from doing anything he likes; he's a cat.  I suggest getting him
a cat tree, a large one, and/or a tree with cat ornaments.  Get him something
he'll enjoy more than your dresser.  Preferably, higher than your dresser.
Then, sit back and enjoy the show.
Mary - 22 Dec 2003 06:48 GMT
> Hi,
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> - Ruby Tuesday

Move your jewelry.
-L. - 22 Dec 2003 06:51 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> - Ruby Tuesday

Put your jewelry away where he cannot get to it.  Put 4-6 mousetraps,
set, upside-down on the dresser.  Cover them with a few layers of
newspaper.  When he jumps up there - SNAP! - he will be scared off,
and probably won't do it again.  Reset the traps each night for a week
or so.

-L.
Alan Sandoval - 22 Dec 2003 08:45 GMT
> Put your jewelry away where he cannot get to it.  Put 4-6 mousetraps,
> set, upside-down on the dresser.  Cover them with a few layers of
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> -L.

Mouse traps!?  With the off chance that the cat will become caught in one!
Ok, I understand the newspaper and all, but EXCUSE ME!  How about if we
simply set bear traps for you!  I'm sure you can avoid them, most of the
time, anyway.  If something goes wrong and you get caught in one, you won't
mind, would you?

Oh yes, reset the traps each night for a week.  Sooner or later the cat will
learn, or be dead!

I would avoid the advice above.

"When he jumps up there - SNAP! - he will be scared off,"

Scared shitless, I'd imagine.  I prefer to find ways of accomodating my
friends needs without putting them at risk or making them extremly paranoid.

I don't believe in behaviour through intimidation.

Sorry, this one really pissed me off,

A
-L. - 23 Dec 2003 05:34 GMT
> > Put your jewelry away where he cannot get to it.  Put 4-6 mousetraps,
> > set, upside-down on the dresser.  Cover them with a few layers of
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> Mouse traps!?  With the off chance that the cat will become caught in one!

Read for content, Dingleberry.  Set UPSIDE DOWN, and COVERED with
NEWSPAPER.  There is no way the cat can get caught in them.  Believe
me, this method has worked for tons of cats.

> Ok, I understand the newspaper and all, but EXCUSE ME!  How about if we
> simply set bear traps for you!  I'm sure you can avoid them, most of the
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> Sorry, this one really pissed me off,

You obviously know nothing about cat behavior.

-L.
PawsForThought - 23 Dec 2003 16:11 GMT
>From: k3_e81@yahoo.com  (-L.)

>> > Put your jewelry away where he cannot get to it.  Put 4-6 mousetraps,
>> > set, upside-down on the dresser.  Cover them with a few layers of
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>NEWSPAPER.  There is no way the cat can get caught in them.  Believe
>me, this method has worked for tons of cats.

I wonder though.  My cats like to play with newspaper and if there was
something underneath it, they would probably bat it around until it fell to the
floor, perhaps flipping the trap over right side up.  Personally, I wouldn't
use mousetraps but that's just me.

Lauren
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kaeli - 23 Dec 2003 17:17 GMT
> > I don't believe in behaviour through intimidation.
> >
> > Sorry, this one really pissed me off,
>
> You obviously know nothing about cat behavior.

Not everyone likes to use aversives. That doesn't mean they don't know
about behaviour, it means they prefer positive conditioning only. Much
like dog trainers who only use PP / clicker training. It works for many,
but not all, and it takes a LOT more patience.

There are many training methods. That doesn't make one right and another
wrong.

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hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 22 Dec 2003 16:51 GMT
>> I have a Siamese kitten (6 months), who now can jump up on my dresser and
>> dining table.   My problem is this:  at night, when I'm ready to go to
>> sleep, he wakes up (from having slept through most of the the day), goes and
>> does some stuff, then jumps up on my dresser.   I wouldn't ordinarily mind,
>> but I keep my jewlery on a bulletin board just above my dresser, and he
>> loves to make my jewlery into toys.

Cover the dresser with tinfoil for a week. Since he has to jump up to
see if its still there, he will decide real quick it's not worth it.

I draped tin foil over my speakers for a week and they lost all
interest in using the grill cloth for a scratching post :-)

-mhd
-L. - 23 Dec 2003 05:35 GMT
> >> I have a Siamese kitten (6 months), who now can jump up on my dresser and
> >> dining table.   My problem is this:  at night, when I'm ready to go to
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> -mhd

Yep, tinfoil is a good deterrent too - but some cats are attracted to
it.  You just have to try it and see.

-L.
Ray Ban - 22 Dec 2003 19:51 GMT
When I want my cat to stop doing something, I just hit her in the nose
with my finger. She'll keep doing it anyway, and I keep hitting her in
the nose with increasing level. Oh, she'll get angry for a few minutes
but then she'll come close to me to be petted. After a few hits,
she'll stop doing what I want her to stop doing. This included:
jumping up on the dining table to try to eat fish (which she can't
have because of allergies), scratching new couch, etc.

> > Hi,
> >
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> -L.
TCS - 22 Dec 2003 16:02 GMT
>Hi,

>I have a Siamese kitten (6 months), who now can jump up on my dresser and
>dining table.   My problem is this:  at night, when I'm ready to go to
>sleep, he wakes up (from having slept through most of the the day), goes and
>does some stuff, then jumps up on my dresser.   I wouldn't ordinarily mind,
>but I keep my jewlery on a bulletin board just above my dresser, and he
>loves to make my jewlery into toys.

>I've tried spraying water in his face, to no avail.  What ends up happening
>is I kick him out of my room for the night.   I don't want to do this, I'd
>like him to sleep with me.  But kick him out I must and therefore do.

>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep him off of my dresser?

Remove the cat toys (jewlery) or lock him out of the bedroom.
kaeli - 22 Dec 2003 16:31 GMT
> I've tried spraying water in his face, to no avail.  What ends up happening
> is I kick him out of my room for the night.   I don't want to do this, I'd
> like him to sleep with me.  But kick him out I must and therefore do.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep him off of my dresser?

Keep your jewelry in a box.  :)

Any other solution requires a decent amount of time and energy. If
you're willing to do that, find a behavioral solution with conditioning.
Put stuff on the dresser he doesn't like, such as noisemakers (they are
like covered mousetraps so kitty can't get hurt - pet stores sell them
to deter dogs from going in the garbage), penny cans, Sticky Paws,
aluminum foil, a scat mat, and/or orange rinds (cats HATE them). Make
sure you correct him when you catch him by saying NO firm (not loud)
then showing him something he CAN do, such as go on his cat tree or a
window ledge, then praise him.
Breaking a behavior that he does when you're not around or sleeping
requires a bit of ingenuity - you have to convince him that he doesn't
WANT to go up there or he'll just do it when you're not around to "get"
him.
You have to give him something else to do as well - if he's doing it
because he's bored, take the jewelry off and bring his cat tree in the
bedroom with a couple toys. Soon, he'll choose his tree because it's
more fun.

Most of us don't have the time or patience to chase our cats off things
they find cool and interesting, so we simply remove whatever the cat
finds cool and interesting and the cat doesn't go there anymore.

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Mike - 24 Dec 2003 17:35 GMT
Ok.. i did not try this yet but.......

I've been told to use orange based furniture polish (or other orange based
products) to keep the cats out of the Xmas tree .
the theory is that the cat (his cat at least) hates the smell and will stay
away from it.

Now i cant guarantee that it will work, but you can try different stuff
until you find something you cant dont like.

> Hi,
>
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> - Ruby Tuesday
 
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