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About to adopt a shelter Manx

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Meghan - 18 Dec 2003 22:55 GMT
Hi All,

I have put in an application to adopt a 1 year old shelter kitty - who
happens to be Manx.  He has no tail whatsoever, not even a stump.  I had no
intentions of getting anything other than just a cat from a shelter.  I have
done a bit of research on this breed and am concerned.  While I was visiting
him at the shelter, there was some residue poop on his behind which got all
over me.  In my research I found that this is common? in the breed.  I've
read they can also have hip problems?

His personality is so sweet.  I have 4 other cats so it's not that I've
never had dirty butt problems before, but am I in for an "every day for the
next 15 years" thing?

I haven't even gotten into the concerns I have about the introductions.  Oh
boy, I am so nervous!! Any advice, suggestions or anyone who has 1st hand
experience with Manx cats please let me know.  I've read some of the group
archives, but it can get pretty overwhelming.

Thanks,
Meghan
Gandalf - 18 Dec 2003 23:22 GMT
>Hi All,
>
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>Thanks,
>Meghan

Check thus URL:

http://www.fanciers.com/breed-faqs/manx-faq.html

Lots of good info there. I didn't see anything about what you described, though.

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Laura R. - 19 Dec 2003 15:33 GMT
circa Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:22:36 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Gandalf (g.gandalf@lycos.com) said,

> Check thus URL:
>
> http://www.fanciers.com/breed-faqs/manx-faq.html
>
> Lots of good info there. I didn't see anything about what you described, though.

I did:

"Manx Syndrome is a normally fatal defect caused by the so-called
Manx gene, which causes the taillessness. The gene's action in
shortening the spine may go too far, resulting in severe spinal
defects--a gap in the last few vertebrae, fused vertebrae, or spina
bifida in newborns. If there is no obvious problem with a Manx
Syndrome kitten at birth, the difficulties will show up in the first
few weeks or months of the cat's life, usually in the first four
weeks, but sometimes as late as four months. ***It is often
characterized by severe bowel and/or bladder dysfunction***, or by
extreme difficulty in walking. "

Laura
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Sharon Talbert - 19 Dec 2003 20:45 GMT
Thank you for the snippit about the "manx gene."  I've tucked it away for
future reference.

Campus Cats took in a litter that included a kitten with what I would
describe as spinal bifida (but what do I know).  She was so twisted up she
couldn't walk at all and had no anal control.  She somehow survived
(thrived!) until we received her at about 5 weeks but there was nothing to
be done for her.

Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
Yngver - 19 Dec 2003 16:15 GMT
>I have put in an application to adopt a 1 year old shelter kitty - who
>happens to be Manx.  He has no tail whatsoever, not even a stump.  I had no
>intentions of getting anything other than just a cat from a shelter.  I have
>done a bit of research on this breed and am concerned.

Not all cats born without a tail are Manx cats--it's a random mutation that can
also occur in non-purebred cats. I'm not sure whether a completely tailless cat
necessarily has the Manx gene. The gene for taillessness in the Japanese
Bobtail, for example, does not carry spinal defects as the Manx one does.

 While I was visiting
>him at the shelter, there was some residue poop on his behind which got all
>over me.  In my research I found that this is common? in the breed.  I've
>read they can also have hip problems?

Yes, the Manx gene can predispose a cat for a number of such problems. However,
responsible Manx breeders do not breed cats with genetic deformities (other
than taillessness).

>His personality is so sweet.  I have 4 other cats so it's not that I've
>never had dirty butt problems before, but am I in for an "every day for the
>next 15 years" thing?

Possibly, but it might also be that the cat is under stress at the shelter and
not grooming so well.

Is the shelter sure the taillessness is genetic, or could it possibly be that
this cat lost its tail in an accident?

>I haven't even gotten into the concerns I have about the introductions.  Oh
>boy, I am so nervous!! Any advice, suggestions or anyone who has 1st hand
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>Thanks,
>Meghan
Sharon Talbert - 19 Dec 2003 20:36 GMT
Why not give the guy a chance?  After all, life is a crap shoot (so to
speak).

We have a rumpy in our household (a feral-born) who has occasional "static
cling" on her behind, but the rectum seems to function ok.  She is more
than 2 years now and doing fine.  Considering she is more of a cymric than
a manx, she is doing very well indeed (she is long-haired as well as
absolutely tailess).

For any shelter rescue, an immediate trip to the vet is in order.

Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
Laura R. - 19 Dec 2003 23:24 GMT
circa Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:36:21 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Sharon Talbert (stalbert@u.washington.edu) said,
> Why not give the guy a chance?  After all, life is a crap shoot (so to
> speak).
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>
> For any shelter rescue, an immediate trip to the vet is in order.

Agreed.

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Meghan - 20 Dec 2003 13:52 GMT
Yes we did end up taking this little guy in.  His name is Joey, because he
reminds me so much of a little kangaroo (minus the tail!)  All he wants to
do is snuggle.  I believe his tail-lessness is genetic because his brother
had the same trait.  He was very stressed out at the shelter, and we have
had no problems with him except he has an upper respiratory infection, for
which he has already seen a vet.  Now it's just quarantine time until he
gets better, and then the introductions...

Meghan

> Hi All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Meghan
Laura R. - 20 Dec 2003 14:51 GMT
circa Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:52:23 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Meghan (meghanNO1112@earthlink.net) said,

> Yes we did end up taking this little guy in.  His name is Joey, because he
> reminds me so much of a little kangaroo (minus the tail!)  All he wants to
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> which he has already seen a vet.  Now it's just quarantine time until he
> gets better, and then the introductions...

Yay!

Laura
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Gail - 20 Dec 2003 17:05 GMT
Terrific, Meghan!! I'm so glad you took him in.
Gail
> Yes we did end up taking this little guy in.  His name is Joey, because he
> reminds me so much of a little kangaroo (minus the tail!)  All he wants to
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> > Thanks,
> > Meghan
Gail - 20 Dec 2003 17:06 GMT
By the way, I recently took in a fifth cat, also. He followed me while I was
jogging and by the time I found a good home for him (2 weeks later) I was
already attached.
> Terrific, Meghan!! I'm so glad you took him in.
> Gail
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Meghan
Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 20 Dec 2003 17:51 GMT
> By the way, I recently took in a fifth cat, also. He followed me while I was
> jogging and by the time I found a good home for him (2 weeks later) I was
> already attached.
> Gail

LOL!  It's so hard to let them go, isn't it?  When Stranger Cat was in my
home, I was already making plans to keep her should her owners not claim
her--and that was just after 2 days of having her in my house!  I was even
doing searches on previous posts about how to introduce her to the resident
cat!  But then her owners took her away :-(.

rona

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