My 1 1/2 year old cat is very hyper and into everything all the time. He seems
very frustrated with life in general. I had hoped he would start to settle down
but hasn't. He is extremely destructive. Would rescue remedy or somehting like
that help Kasey? Can I get it at Petco or PetsMart? Thanks!
kaeli - 15 Dec 2003 16:09 GMT
> My 1 1/2 year old cat is very hyper and into everything all the time. He seems
> very frustrated with life in general. I had hoped he would start to settle down
> but hasn't. He is extremely destructive. Would rescue remedy or somehting like
> that help Kasey? Can I get it at Petco or PetsMart? Thanks!
Perhaps you'd do better by him if you found out the root of the problem
rather than just treating the symptom.
If he's hyper and into everything, he may lack enough stimulation in his
environment.
Is he an only kitty?
Does he have a cat tree and cat toys to play with?
Do you have any fish, birds, or small mammals for him to enjoy watching?
How about a fake aquarium like they have for kids?
How often do you play interactively with him?
Is he still on kitten food?
Does he have access to a window with a view of birds, squirrels, etc.?
Does he go outside? (Supervised if you don't live in a rural area)
Do you leave the TV on something cool for him like Animal Planet when
you aren't home?
Cats are unique creatures. Some of them are laid back, some are more
rowdy. My almost-4 year old needs more interaction and stimulation than
my younger cats and gets into trouble when she wants attention. Drugs
are not the solution - playing with her and bringing her out for walks
and giving her things to do are. If she gets into something, I redirect
her with a play session. This solves 99.9% of her behavior problems. The
other 1% is taken care of with a timeout for truly obnoxious behavior
toward my other cats.
Her favorite toy, despite having plenty of expensive toys, is an empty
Pepsi carton (24-pack) with half the top ripped off. Go figure.

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Kailey11 - 15 Dec 2003 16:48 GMT
He is one of 4 cats and came here at 6 weeks with his littermate who is very
mellow. He has several cat trees and toys galore. I play with him a lot with
those stick toys and he loves to jump and bat them. I live on a canyon so he
has lots of critters to watch out the window. I have the cat video that they
are supposed to like to watch - but he doesn't. Once in a while I will let him
out back when I am there to supervise. I have had a lot of cats in my lifetime
and I have never ever had one like Kasey. When he has his mind on something you
cannot redirect it. Believe me, I have tried everything. Sometimes his head and
eyes kind of bob like a bird's. I am also wondering if there might be some kind
of brain hookup problem. He is not a normal cat. But the biggest issue is how
unhappy he seems all the time and frustrated. That is why I thought something
to relax him and mellow him out some would possibly help him.
kaeli - 15 Dec 2003 17:36 GMT
> He is one of 4 cats and came here at 6 weeks with his littermate who is very
> mellow. He has several cat trees and toys galore. I play with him a lot with
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> unhappy he seems all the time and frustrated. That is why I thought something
> to relax him and mellow him out some would possibly help him.
ADD kitty? :)
Well, sounds like his environment is rich and stimulating, so I'm pretty
much at a loss. I'll leave this to those who know more about the medical
side of things...
My first thought on reading the above was to agree that it sounds like a
neurological problem, but IANAV...
Good luck!

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PawsForThought - 15 Dec 2003 19:39 GMT
>From: kailey11@aol.com (Kailey11)
>He is one of 4 cats and came here at 6 weeks with his littermate who is very
>mellow. He has several cat trees and toys galore. I play with him a lot with
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>unhappy he seems all the time and frustrated. That is why I thought something
>to relax him and mellow him out some would possibly help him.
I guess I replied too quickly. Ok, how about training him to a harness and
leash and then you could take him out for regular exercise outdoors? I would
not recommend letting him out not on a leash unless you have a safe cat
enclosure. I lost a kitty to a coyote in a canyon once.
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BarB - 17 Dec 2003 17:01 GMT
>He is one of 4 cats and came here at 6 weeks with his littermate who is very
>mellow. He has several cat trees and toys galore. I play with him a lot with
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>unhappy he seems all the time and frustrated. That is why I thought something
>to relax him and mellow him out some would possibly help him.
I assume he's neutered? The agitation and frustration you're describing
sounds very much like that of a full tom. Is he exhibiting any sexual
behavior such as mounting? Is he spraying? Sexual behavior usually
disappears after neutering but in animals that have experienced sexual
activity before neutering some sexual behavior may persist. This is not
necessarily an indication of incomplete surgical removal of the sexual
organs, but it might be something to check with your vet.
Otherwise I can't think of anything that might cause his agitation. I
wouldn't recommend Rescue Remedy. Besides being useless, it contains
alcohol which can be lethal to a cat.
Here are some links to read about RR.
Use of Herbal Remedies to Control PetBehavior S. Schwartz
School of Veterinary Medicine, Tufts University, Massachusetts, USA
http://www.ivis.org/advances/Behavior_Houpt/schwartz/chapter_frm.asp?LA=1
Rescue Remedy®. This substance is marketed as a "natural reliever
of everyday stress...proven to be as helpful with animals as it is
with people". This claim is unfounded by published data.
Mystical Medical Alternativism
http://www.csicop.org/si/9509/alternativism.html
Bach flower therapy (Bach flower essence method, Bach flower essence
system): Quasi-homeopathic system of pseudodiagnosis and
pseudotherapy.
Flower power: ALL IN THE MIND ?
http://www.healthwatch-uk.org/nlett40.html#bach
"Flower remedies are commonly divided into "type remedies" which
correspond to certain personality types and "mood remedies" which
correspond to certain emotional states. They are made by placing
freshly picked flowers in a bowl of spring water. The bowl is then
left in the sun for several hours. This process is believed to
"energise" the water. Subsequently the flower essence is preserved by
adding 50% brandy."
BarB
Kailey11 - 18 Dec 2003 01:05 GMT
Kasey was neutered at 6 weeks before they would let me adopt him. He is in
excellent physical condition per my vet. I did get some Rescue Remedy yesterday
and put a drop behind his ear and another drop today - nothing internally or
where he could lick it. I saw almost an immediate change in his behavior - a
totally different cat who climbed into my lap on his own to be petted for the
first time. I don't want to do that all the time as I don't want to change who
he truly is but even he seems to be enjoying being more mellow. Of course he
did manage to claw up a roll of toilet paper - but that is normal cat behavior!
Laura R. - 18 Dec 2003 02:21 GMT
circa 18 Dec 2003 01:05:23 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Kailey11 (kailey11@aol.com) said,
> Kasey was neutered at 6 weeks before they would let me adopt him. He is in
> excellent physical condition per my vet. I did get some Rescue Remedy yesterday
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> he truly is but even he seems to be enjoying being more mellow. Of course he
> did manage to claw up a roll of toilet paper - but that is normal cat behavior!
He**, I'd probably *bathe* the little guy in it! ;-) You may also
want to try Feliway.
Laura

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Rene - 17 Dec 2003 20:46 GMT
> He is one of 4 cats and came here at 6 weeks with his littermate who is very
> mellow. He has several cat trees and toys galore. I play with him a lot with
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> unhappy he seems all the time and frustrated. That is why I thought something
> to relax him and mellow him out some would possibly help him.
Sounds like he has a great home and lots to do. This might be obvious,
but have you called your vet and asked his/her opinion? Maybe there's
something medically that's bothering him.
Rene
PawsForThought - 15 Dec 2003 19:37 GMT
>From: kailey11@aol.com (Kailey11)
>My 1 1/2 year old cat is very hyper and into everything all the time. He
>seems
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>like
>that help Kasey? Can I get it at Petco or PetsMart? Thanks!
It sounds like your cat is a young energetic normal cat. What I think he needs
much more than rescue remedy is some attention and play, and possibly even a
playmate. Does he have a nice tall cat tree? Do you play with him with
interactive toys like those fishing pole toys? Lastly, have you considered
adopting a playmate for him?
Lauren
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Sharon Talbert - 18 Dec 2003 20:29 GMT
You can try feliaway, gotten from your vet in spray or dispenser form
(dispenser is great).
I suspect, though, that your guy is probably going to be pretty hyper most
of his life. I assume you have checked with your vet about possible
medical cause (not sure what you mean by "frustrated with life in
general") or about possible behavior modification.
And then of course, there is my usual recommendation, of considering a
friend for him, perhaps an older kitten with a lot of spunk who won't
become his favorite punching bag.
Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
> My 1 1/2 year old cat is very hyper and into everything all the time. He seems
> very frustrated with life in general. I had hoped he would start to settle down
> but hasn't. He is extremely destructive. Would rescue remedy or somehting like
> that help Kasey? Can I get it at Petco or PetsMart? Thanks!
Sharon Talbert - 18 Dec 2003 20:46 GMT
Having just read your follow-up posting, better describing the cat and his
behavior, I more strongly recommend a visit to the vet, to at least rule
out conditions such as cerebellar hypoplasia, which can cause the ataxia
you describe.
We have a CH cat at home (Tipsy) who is the life of the household. She is
severely disabled (unable to take a single normal step), but she gets
herself around the house, uses the litterpan, eats/drinks, sleeps with me
every night and demands her lap time. She is also somewhat of a household
terror, fussing and waving her formidable claws if anyone gets into her
space (though I have a number of photos of her snuggling small kittens).
When I found Tipsy at 4-1/2 weeks, I didn't think she had long to live but
saw no reason to rush her. She is 8-1/2 years old now and still going
strong. And yes, Tipsy gets frustrated easily and can obsess more than
the average cat, both traits seeming to be common with CH cats. She is
also a joy and a character. Campus Cats would be poorer without Tipsy.
Check with your vet. Check with a second vet, if the first one doesn't
find anything. If it is CH, get back to me at my Campus Cats address and
I can direct you to a newsgroup of good folks with disabled pets
(especially CH cats). Many vets recommend immediate euthanasia of CH
kittens, but many such kittens grow up into splendid if spazzy cats and
can lead a happy and healthy life.
Sharon Talbert
Friends of Campus Cats
sharon@campuscats.org