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Wendy - 10 Dec 2003 16:35 GMT
Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
outside her box in the kitchen. She just went to the vet last week and
doesn't have a medical problem other than the arthritis and just being old
and crotchety. We have her on Cosequin and it seems to be helping - she's
actually grooming herself again. I cleaned the carpeting with the stuff to
remove the odor. I have a feliway diffuser running. I covered the spot she
used in the bedroom and she just moved out into the living room to do her
thing. I haven't caught her in the act but I'm almost certain it's her as
Isabelle doesn't go in the bedroom (where it started) and the volume of
urine is too large to be from Boots.

Any suggestions?

Wendy
Annie Wxill - 11 Dec 2003 02:35 GMT
...I'm almost certain it's her as
> Isabelle doesn't go in the bedroom (where it started) and the volume of
> urine is too large to be from Boots.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Wendy
Ask your vet about a substance you can feed to Tiggy that will color her
urine.  That would either confirm or eliminate her as a suspect.
I've never used it, but your vet should know what it's called.  Also, you
might want to ask if it stains carpet or whatever.
Good luck,
Annie
Simon Fitzpatrick - 11 Dec 2003 10:46 GMT
The best I got was Mu (RB) peeing into my video recorder and
shorting out the electronics.  Now that was cat film critic.

Admittedly it was a silly movie. But the reaction was worth it.

> Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
> outside her box in the kitchen. She just went to the vet last week and
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>
> Wendy
Iain & Deb - 11 Dec 2003 12:25 GMT
> Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
> outside her box in the kitchen. She just went to the vet last week and
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>
> Wendy

Her arthritis may have been making her uncomfortable when she was in the
litter box, and now she's associating that discomfort with the box; a cat
that won't groom herself is probably in a fair bit of pain.  Now that
she's feeling a bit better (cosequin's great stuff, isn't it?) perhaps
you could try a new litter box, with fresh litter.  Maybe she'll claim it
as hers.  I don't know if it'll work, but it's what I would try.

Deb

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Wendy - 11 Dec 2003 12:46 GMT
In article <Ibednc0jg7E01kqiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, wendy@nospam.com says...
> Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
> outside her box in the kitchen. She just went to the vet last week and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Wendy

Her arthritis may have been making her uncomfortable when she was in the
litter box, and now she's associating that discomfort with the box; a cat
that won't groom herself is probably in a fair bit of pain.  Now that
she's feeling a bit better (cosequin's great stuff, isn't it?) perhaps
you could try a new litter box, with fresh litter.  Maybe she'll claim it
as hers.  I don't know if it'll work, but it's what I would try.

Deb

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I'll have to try a new litter box. Should I put it near the old one or in a
new location?

Wendy
Iain & Deb - 11 Dec 2003 13:21 GMT
> In article <Ibednc0jg7E01kqiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, wendy@nospam.com says...
> > Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
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>
> Wendy

I'd not put it too near the other, in case she associates them.  First
try putting it in a secluded spot, and showing it to her.  If she doesn't
use it, you could try putting the new box on a spot where she's urinated,
and then gradually move it to a more secluded spot if she accepts it.

If this doesn't work, don't give up!  There are other options.

Deb
Wendy - 11 Dec 2003 18:15 GMT
Can't give up on Tiggy just because she's an old girl. Although it would be
nice if they made diapers for cats ;o) nah .... don't think that would work.

Wendy

In article <PNKdnabjtNnk-kWiRVn-vw@comcast.com>, wendy@nospam.com says...

> In article <Ibednc0jg7E01kqiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, wendy@nospam.com says...
> > Tiggy's not happy. She has peed in the bedroom, living room, bathroom and
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Wendy

I'd not put it too near the other, in case she associates them.  First
try putting it in a secluded spot, and showing it to her.  If she doesn't
use it, you could try putting the new box on a spot where she's urinated,
and then gradually move it to a more secluded spot if she accepts it.

If this doesn't work, don't give up!  There are other options.

Deb
Annie Wxill - 12 Dec 2003 00:37 GMT
> Can't give up on Tiggy just because she's an old girl. Although it would be
> nice if they made diapers for cats ;o) nah .... don't think that would work.
>
>...
Actually, a couple of years ago I saw an article on helpful items for older
cats.  One of them was a diaper sort of thing for incontinent cats.  I
believe it was called piddle pants or something like that.  You might try a
search on the Internet.
Annie
Iain & Deb - 12 Dec 2003 12:28 GMT
> >...
> Actually, a couple of years ago I saw an article on helpful items for older
> cats.  One of them was a diaper sort of thing for incontinent cats.  I
> believe it was called piddle pants or something like that.  You might try a
> search on the Internet.
> Annie

That's a good idea!

http://www.joybies.com/pagecat.html

There it is!

Deb
Annie Wxill - 12 Dec 2003 17:17 GMT
> > Actually, a couple of years ago I saw an article on helpful items for older
> > cats.  One of them was a diaper sort of thing for incontinent cats. ...
> > Annie

> That's a good idea!
> http://www.joybies.com/pagecat.html
> There it is!
> Deb

Thanks for taking the time to look that up, Deb.
I guess I want to caution that this item is not a substitute for a vet exam
and care if the problem has a medical cause.  And I also would encourage all
steps be taken to find any cause, medical or behavioral, for the problem and
to find the solution. But it might help reduce damage in the interim and
would be especially helpful for cats that for some reason (maybe nerve
damage?) cannot control their urination.
Annie
Wendy - 12 Dec 2003 22:14 GMT
> Can't give up on Tiggy just because she's an old girl. Although it would
be
> nice if they made diapers for cats ;o) nah .... don't think that would
work.

>...
Actually, a couple of years ago I saw an article on helpful items for older
cats.  One of them was a diaper sort of thing for incontinent cats.  I
believe it was called piddle pants or something like that.  You might try a
search on the Internet.
Annie

Oh the indignity of it all lol.

Actually not a laughing matter. She has a vet appointment first thing
tomorrow morning. She peed again in the bedroom - in her bed. She can barely
walk this afternoon. I noticed she looked a little stiff late this morning
so I gave her a Prednisolone (5 mg.). It didn't help. By this afternoon
she's hobbling if she moves at all. She doesn't seem to want to put any
weight on the right rear leg and cries something fierce if I try to pick her
up. Rats! and it seemed the Cosequin was really helping her.

Wendy
Annie Wxill - 12 Dec 2003 22:21 GMT
...> >
... She has a vet appointment first thing
> tomorrow morning. ...>
> Wendy
I hope the vet is able to help.
Earlier, someone looked up the web site for the piddle pants and posted it
here.  I hope you saw it.  I've cleaned out all the messages, so I don't
have it anymore.
Annie
Iain & Deb - 12 Dec 2003 22:40 GMT
> > Can't give up on Tiggy just because she's an old girl. Although it would
> be
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>
> Wendy


Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.  If you have a heating pad or a hot water
bottle, that might make her a bit more comfortable.  I hope the vet can
help.

Deb
zuzu22@webtv.net - 11 Dec 2003 14:45 GMT
>She has peed in the bedroom, living
>room, bathroom and outside her box in
>the kitchen. She just went to the vet last
>week and doesn't have a medical problem
>other than the arthritis and just being old
>and crotchety.

You need to take her back to the vet. Unless they did a urinalysis you
can't assume she is fine, and even if they did one at the time, she very
well could have developed a UTI since then. DON'T assume it's behavioral
until you have definitively ruled out a UTI. For her sake, get her back
to the vet ASAP and have her urine checked.

Megan

                                   
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