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Adopted Cat Declawing behavior - how to trap a kitty

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Kay - 09 Dec 2003 04:50 GMT
I ahve 2 questions, I have a cat that I have adopted, but not from an
agency, she was stray, I put up signs, left my phone number and no one
claimed her. She is front declawed and had a broken tail. Her name is
Persia.

I'm having some behavior problems, I realize that its not her fault,
but wonder what I can do to help her. She jumps at every sound. even a
sneeze causes her stress and to hide. she is afriad of the dark, I have
a night light on for her. She attacks my dog if he is to close, or walks
by her, or near her food. He is really old, he does not fight back,  but
keeps on walking by. She does not like anyone else petting her but my
husband and if he is not around then she will let me. But any visiting
family member or friends she will protest. She went on the floor 2
times, but I think thats because we moved one of her boxs. We have moved
it back and so far so good. We have had her for 9 months now.

All the above behavior does not sound so bad, I only want to see if I
can help her. I hate to see her troubled.

The second question is what is the best way to trap a kitten, They tend
to go into my addition of my garage. So I have blankets, water and food
for them, but everytime I try to call them they run away. I also am
worried because of the weather. We are trying to think of a way to
provide them heat and not a fire danger in the garage. Has anyone have
a idea?

Kay
Gail - 09 Dec 2003 14:50 GMT
For the kittens, if you want to trap them, buy or rent a have a heart trap
(small one) and place in the garage with tuna in it. For warmth, you can buy
Snuggle Safe pads that you microwave and place in a warm box for the
kittens. They retain their heat for 12 hours. You can buy them on the
internet.
Gail
> I ahve 2 questions, I have a cat that I have adopted, but not from an
> agency, she was stray, I put up signs, left my phone number and no one
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>
> Kay
Kay - 09 Dec 2003 19:11 GMT
> For the kittens, if you want to trap them, buy or rent a have a heart trap
> (small one) and place in the garage with tuna in it. For warmth, you can buy
> Snuggle Safe pads that you microwave and place in a warm box for the
> kittens. They retain their heat for 12 hours. You can buy them on the
> internet.
> Gail

Gail,
Thanks for the info! Sounds like great products! I will pass the info
along on my block, i'm not the only one trying to catch all these
kittens. 4 were caught and brought to the vet, 1 didn't make it. 3 have
homes on this block and the next block.

Kay
PawsForThought - 09 Dec 2003 15:38 GMT
>From: Kay spamhater@hatespam.com

>I'm having some behavior problems, I realize that its not her fault,
>but wonder what I can do to help her. She jumps at every sound. even a
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>husband and if he is not around then she will let me. But any visiting
>family member or friends she will protest.

She needs quiet right now and time to adjust.  I would suggest to let her have
a place to go when you have company over where she feels safe.  This kitty has
been through a lot and needs gentle loving care right now.  You might also want
to try some Rescue Remedy (a natural flower essence available at health food
stores) or some Feliway (available at pet supply stores.

Lauren
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Kay - 09 Dec 2003 19:17 GMT
> She needs quiet right now and time to adjust.  I would suggest to let her have
> a place to go when you have company over where she feels safe.  This kitty has
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>
> Lauren

Thanks for the information. We have gotten her a kitty condo, loads of
toys ,  bed, 2 litter boxes. We don't have children so she has the run
of the house with no stress from children. She likes sleeping with us.
The one thing thats got me is her being constantly scared. I thought it
would have wore off by now. I guess this can go on forever if she
suffered before us. I have no idea what happened to her.

Kay
PawsForThought - 10 Dec 2003 00:55 GMT
>From: Kay spamhater@hatespam.com

>> She needs quiet right now and time to adjust.  I would suggest to let her
>have
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>
>Kay

She's very lucky to have you, Kay.  I bet in time, she'll relax more and
adjust.  Exactly how long have you had her?

Lauren

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Kay - 12 Dec 2003 05:43 GMT
> She's very lucky to have you, Kay.  I bet in time, she'll relax more and
> adjust.  Exactly how long have you had her?
>
> Lauren
>
> ________

I had for for 9 months now.

Kay
Wendy - 10 Dec 2003 12:07 GMT
> She needs quiet right now and time to adjust.  I would suggest to let her have
> a place to go when you have company over where she feels safe.  This kitty has
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>
> Lauren

Thanks for the information. We have gotten her a kitty condo, loads of
toys ,  bed, 2 litter boxes. We don't have children so she has the run
of the house with no stress from children. She likes sleeping with us.
The one thing thats got me is her being constantly scared. I thought it
would have wore off by now. I guess this can go on forever if she
suffered before us. I have no idea what happened to her.

Kay

She will probably relax some over time (and it might be a lot of time) but
she may never stick around when "strangers" are in your home.

My Ralf was like that. Don't know what happened to him either except he was
dumped on a vets doorstep in a carrier and spent a day or so waiting until
the vet opened to be discovered. Then the poor baby spent a long period of
time in isolation at the shelter because they had an outbreak of rabies in
the area and he had to go through quaranteen before he could be with the
other cats.

He always hid whenever anyone came in the house. He did eventually stop
freaking out every time there was a loud noise but never got over being
afraid of the vacuum cleaner. He never wanted to be picked up but got better
about it and stopped struggling. He'd just patiently wait for the first
opportunity to get down. He'd show up regularly for his lovin' but always
liked to find an out-of-the-way spot to hang out in. We pretty much let him
do his thing and just handed out tons of loving when he'd come out looking
for it.
Ray Ban - 09 Dec 2003 17:53 GMT
> The second question is what is the best way to trap a kitten, They tend
> to go into my addition of my garage. So I have blankets, water and food
> for them, but everytime I try to call them they run away. I also am
> worried because of the weather. We are trying to think of a way to
> provide them heat and not a fire danger in the garage. Has anyone have
> a idea?

How about NOT trying to call them? You are going to TRAP (do it
without their consent) them so you don't have to try to be friendly.
You will have a lifetime of loving them AFTER you trap them.
Kay - 09 Dec 2003 19:20 GMT
> How about NOT trying to call them? You are going to TRAP (do it
> without their consent) them so you don't have to try to be friendly.
> You will have a lifetime of loving them AFTER you trap them.

Ray,
That makes sense. I just don't want to scare them, I guess the most
important thing is to get them and help them. Thanks for being level
headed and waking me up:)

Kay
Ginger-lyn Summer - 09 Dec 2003 20:12 GMT
>I ahve 2 questions, I have a cat that I have adopted, but not from an
>agency, she was stray, I put up signs, left my phone number and no one
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>All the above behavior does not sound so bad, I only want to see if I
>can help her. I hate to see her troubled.

Give her a lot of time.  Who knows what all this poor cat has been
through, and it will take her awhile to gain trust and feel safe.
Once she does, hopefully you will have very few problems from there on
out.

>The second question is what is the best way to trap a kitten, They tend
>to go into my addition of my garage. So I have blankets, water and food
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>
>Kay

Others can give you better advice on this one, probably.  But a
Hav-a-Heart or other kind of trap with tempting food placed in it
usually works to trap a cat.

Best of luck to you.

Ginger-lyn
Kay - 12 Dec 2003 05:59 GMT
> Give her a lot of time.  Who knows what all this poor cat has been
> through, and it will take her awhile to gain trust and feel safe.
> Once she does, hopefully you will have very few problems from there on
> out.

One thing for Persia, she does not meow like any other cat. It does not
sound like a meow. It sounds like a backwards Meow, The only way to
describe it. I know she had TMJ and her jaw hurts. It also cracks once
in awhile. She has what I call a lions chin, if you can picture that,
her chin sticks out. I do get comments on her spots and strips and
colors. Half her face is a really light brown and the other half is dark.

Kay
Chris - 09 Dec 2003 23:23 GMT
Have a heart trap is good but if you have more than one kitten, the others
may not go after see the first get trapped!  I used a big dog wire dog
kennel--got the cat used to going in there to eat & one day just closed the
door.  Second kitty didn't seem to mind & next day went right in at feeding
time.

How old do you think kittens are?  Sometimes with little ones, best bet is
to put on some leather gloves, a long sleeved sweater & go for it--if they
go in your garage might be easier.

As for Persia--I have a friend who has 4 cats & a dog--all strays.
Periodically they get into it but no blood drawn--they kind of work it out.
My own cats hide when most visitors come so that seems to be pretty typical
behavior for indoor cats, I think.  Just give him time--sounds like he is
really doing well all things considered.  How old do you think she is?  She
must have been a house cat that got abandoned or really lost far from home.

> I ahve 2 questions, I have a cat that I have adopted, but not from an
> agency, she was stray, I put up signs, left my phone number and no one
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>
> Kay
Cheryl - 09 Dec 2003 23:36 GMT
> How old do you think kittens are?  Sometimes with little ones, best
> bet is to put on some leather gloves, a long sleeved sweater & go for
> it--if they go in your garage might be easier.

That is what I did with a few litters of ~6 week old kittens in one womans
yard last summer (she had a kazillion hiding places).  The first several
(out of nine) were not too hard to get, but the mothers (4) were still
around. All of the mothers joined together to call the remaining kittens to
safety.  It was very hard to get the last two, but amazing to witness the
lengths they go to for their babies.  The plan was to get the kittens
first, then set traps for the mothers.  It might have been easier the other
way around.

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Cheryl

Kay - 12 Dec 2003 05:50 GMT
> Have a heart trap is good but if you have more than one kitten, the others
> may not go after see the first get trapped!  I used a big dog wire dog
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> really doing well all things considered.  How old do you think she is?  She
> must have been a house cat that got abandoned or really lost far from home.

The vet said Persia is probably 2 years old. and the kittens I have no
clue. Lots of people on my block are trying to catch them, to this date
6 have been caught and out of that 6 one did not make it.I think there
might be more than on litter on my block. the sizes of the caught
kittens vary. But none look to be full young adult size.

The good news is that all 5 kittens found have homes and most important
have been to the vet.

Kay
Chris - 12 Dec 2003 16:30 GMT
Sure sounds like you have your hands full!  Good luck!

> > Have a heart trap is good but if you have more than one kitten, the others
> > may not go after see the first get trapped!  I used a big dog wire dog
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>
> Kay
 
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