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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2003Two Lost Cats
Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black cat. The management approached me about helping these two cats but I am limited on funds but they have allowed me to start a fund raising/donation drive to help these cats. A collection jar is being posted in the complex office so I can get these two cats to a vet and hopefully get them checked out. What bothers me is how people can just let these two cats go to fend for themselves. One of the complex people is worried because we have kids in this complex and they were not sure that the kids would harm these felines. Has anyone else here had neighbors and such contribute to helping cats they didn't know? As far as these two cats go, I have yet to see them but offered to chip in the first couple of dollars to help these cats.  SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly > been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > didn't know? As far as these two cats go, I have yet to see them but offered > to chip in the first couple of dollars to help these cats. I live in an apartment complex with lots of cats and every once in while a cat becomes abandoned. I adopted one declawed cat and she is wonderful pet and a couple of other people adopted abandoned cats. I also leave food and water on my patio for outdoor cats to feed. Adam Well I believe people have been feeding them but I don't believe from what I have heard that someone has taken them and adopted them. Apparently we get a lot of excuses around here as to why nobody is willing to take them in. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:UNvAb.2282> I live in an apartment complex with lots of cats and every once in while a cat > becomes abandoned. I adopted one declawed cat and she is wonderful pet and a couple > of other people adopted abandoned cats. I also leave food and water on my patio for > outdoor cats to feed. > > Adam circa Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:59:27 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Apparently we get a > lot of excuses around here as to why nobody is willing to take them in. Like limited funds? Laura SignatureSuccessful men follow the same advice they prescribe for others. > I live in an apartment complex with lots of cats and every once in while a cat > becomes abandoned. I adopted one declawed cat and she is wonderful pet and a couple of other people adopted abandoned cats. I also leave food and water on my patio for outdoor cats to feed. > Adam I wish there were more like you, Adam. > > Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly > > been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Adam Adam, declawed cats are not supposed to be wonderful pets -- they're supposed to have behavioral problems at the very least. Are you really telling us the truth? ray2003092003@yahoo.com writes >...declawed cats are not supposed >to be wonderful pets -- they're >supposed to have behavioral >problems at the very least. Are you really >telling us the truth? Are you trolling again? There are tens of thousands of declawed cats who are excellent pets. Ya twit! >Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly >been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >didn't know? As far as these two cats go, I have yet to see them but offered >to chip in the first couple of dollars to help these cats. Is one of them the declawed cat you mentioned earlier that was roaming your neighborhood? I just don't see how raising money is going to tend to the immediate need, which is to trap/catch the cats and get them off the streets. Unless the calico is neutered, she's going to be having kittens. What about the no-kill shelter you speak of? Can they take the cats if someone traps them? Sherry > Is one of them the declawed cat you mentioned earlier that was roaming your > neighborhood? I just don't see how raising money is going to tend to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry Yes, why don't you trap them and take them to a no-kill shelter? Better than wandering around. One of the volunteers at the shelter I am with frequents the area apartments looking for strays. He talks to the management to find out if people have abandoned cats, and he traps them and fosters them if we don't immediately have room in the shelter. People can really suck sometimes. They think hey, we're moving, just dump the cat. It will take care of itself. You are worried about why people just let these cats fend for themselves? Well, isn't that what you are doing? Most people do not know a whole lot about cat rescue, and are not going to bring two unknown stray cats into their house. What if they already have cats? You are sitting there not really doing anything, and I'm not saying it is your responsibility. But it's not the other complex residents' responsiblity, either. If everyone is so concerned about these cats, someone should take the initiative to contact a rescue oraganization and get some help with trapping and getting these cats to a safe place. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com > Yes, why don't you trap them and take them to a no-kill shelter? Better > than wandering around. One of the volunteers at the shelter I am with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You are worried about why people just let these cats fend for themselves? > Well, isn't that what you are doing? CP likes to talk about "protecting cats", but rarely ever does it. He's hypocrisy personified (higher level of hypocrite). >Most people do not know a whole lot > about cat rescue, and are not going to bring two unknown stray cats into > their house. What if they already have cats? You are sitting there not > really doing anything, and I'm not saying it is your responsibility. As a self-designated "Cat Protector", isn't it his responsibility? >But > it's not the other complex residents' responsiblity, either. If everyone is > so concerned about these cats, someone should take the initiative to contact > a rescue oraganization and get some help with trapping and getting these > cats to a safe place. Yes, make use of other resources and consider other options. Rather than asking for money, CP could ask people to donate cat food and cat litter so he can take the cats into his home with little cost to himself. And he could find a vet who would work out a payment plan and/or throw in some services for free. None of these things would happen though, neither would the suggestion of using a cat rescue organization. CP never heeds others' suggestions. I suspect that CP wants to keep the cats in their current situation to make it appear that he's taking responsibility for them and that he "cares" for them. In fact, however, he's doing nothing to help them. He's more like Cat-Killer-By-Neglect, not Cat Protector. rona Signature***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** > Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly > been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > didn't know? As far as these two cats go, I have yet to see them but offered > to chip in the first couple of dollars to help these cats. You're such a hypocrite. You're doing the same thing your neighbors are! You're saying you have limited funds, you're obviously not taking them in, so why are you condemning your neighbors? Pot calling the kettle black. >> Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly >> been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >You're saying you have limited funds, you're obviously not taking them >in, so why are you condemning your neighbors? Pot calling the kettle black. Really that was my first thought but for some reason I was hesitant to post it. The mighty Cat Protector tossing two dollars in a jar. What a hyprocrite. CP will twist this post and make it into a money issue. It's not. It's about getting off your a.s and borrowing a trap, getting the cats off the street and taking them to the no-kill shelter he talks about all the time. I bet he won't do it. Sherry <SNIP> >Really that was my first thought but for some reason I was hesitant to post it. >The mighty Cat Protector tossing two dollars in a jar. What a hyprocrite. CP [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Sherry He will, most likely, however, go on about how wrong all of you are because he runs a radio station for cats....... You know I grow tired about how rightous Sherry thinks she is. I have been contacting quite a few shelters to see if these cats can be placed. It is unfortunate that Sherry and yourself have nothing better to do than to bad mouth me instead of actually lending something constructive to this thread. At least I unlike Sherry and yourself am doing something. I may have a station for cats but I am also trying to raise donations for another shelter here in town. Of course that means very little to you and Sherry. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > <SNIP> > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He will, most likely, however, go on about how wrong all of you are > because he runs a radio station for cats....... circa Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:14:07 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > You know I grow tired about how rightous Sherry thinks she is. I have been > contacting quite a few shelters to see if these cats can be placed. It is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > station for cats but I am also trying to raise donations for another shelter > here in town. Of course that means very little to you and Sherry. No, CP, what means very little is your hollow claims to be trying to help these cats when you won't even foster them or put food out for them. Spare us your sanctimonious hypocrisy. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >You know I grow tired about how rightous Sherry thinks she is. I have been >contacting quite a few shelters to see if these cats can be placed. Sigh. You don't get it. Your window of opportunity is *now*. Trap those cats before they disappear forever, or are killed. Yes, this is constructive advice. It's called stepping up to the plate and not depending on shelters to do it all. Keep them in your bathroom a few days if you have to until permanent arrangements can be made, but *please* do something instead of just talking about it. Those cats' lives may very well depend on you. Sherry circa Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:43:42 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Instant Karma (Instant Karma) said, > He will, most likely, however, go on about how wrong all of you are > because he runs a radio station for cats....... <snork> And has deep, soulful conversations with them, too. ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. Years ago a few neighbors approached me about chipping in to pay a vet to fix up an infected outside cat. They had it figured how much we should each chip in and it was three of us. It worked out fine. -- Barb I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either. What was the cat infected with? FELV, FIV? SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Years ago a few neighbors approached me about chipping in to pay a vet to > fix up an infected outside cat. They had it figured how much we should each [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Today is not your day. > Tomorrow doesn't look good either. >From: bguzzino@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Barb) >Years ago a few neighbors approached me >about chipping in to pay a vet to fix up an >infected outside cat. They had it figured how >much we should each chip in and it was three >of us. It worked out fine. >From: catprotector@cox.net (Cat Protector) >What was the cat infected with? FELV, FIV? I don't think that was the point. Well the questions are pretty valid since there aren't many shelters here in the Phoenix area that take FELV and FIV positive cats. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Nadine" <Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net> wrote in message news:18466-3FD39CE9-273@storefull- I don't think that was the point. circa Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:50:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Well the questions are pretty valid since there aren't many shelters here in > the Phoenix area that take FELV and FIV positive cats. The question would be valid if you'd actually had the cats tested and they tested positive. Since you've neither taken the cats in nor had them tested, the point is currently moot. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. The infected outside cat I had mentioned had a nasty infected sore on his back near his neck. -- Barb I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either. circa Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:31:14 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Barb (bguzzino@suffolk.lib.ny.us) said, > The infected outside cat I had mentioned had a nasty infected sore on his > back near his neck. I was referring to the cats CP mentioned, which do not have sores or any other signs of disease, according to his previous posts. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. Well I have gotten response from another no-kill shelter that says they are full and can't take anymore cats. This shelter relies on fosters mostly. I guess besides summer, winter too has caused the shelters to be filled with cats. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Here's a list of shelters in the Phoenix area I found. I doubt all of them are full. When you call, make sure you thoroughly explain the situation, and don't just say "Can you take two cats?" Many shelters will be closed to owner turns-ins, but are willing to take in strays. http://www.azfelines.org/index.shtml http://www.animalsbenefitclub.com/ http://www.aawl.org/ http://www.charmcats.org/ Is there any way you can foster the cats for a short time? Until a spot opens up in a shelter? Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com > Well I have gotten response from another no-kill shelter that says they are > full and can't take anymore cats. This shelter relies on fosters mostly. I > guess besides summer, winter too has caused the shelters to be filled with > cats. Thanks Kelly. I have contacted them and hope to get a response. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Here's a list of shelters in the Phoenix area I found. I doubt all of them > are full. When you call, make sure you thoroughly explain the situation, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > guess besides summer, winter too has caused the shelters to be filled with > > cats. > Apparently there are now two stray cats in my complex that have seemingly > been alone for a while. One is a Calico and the other is a long haired black [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > didn't know? As far as these two cats go, I have yet to see them but offered > to chip in the first couple of dollars to help these cats. CP, I just wanted to say thank you for trying to do what you can with these cats. I volunteer with a rescue here in the Valley (we do E-list rescue) but when you work with one organization, you tend to get a feel for what's going on in the "community." Maybe the situation is different here in the Phoenix area than it is in the rest of the country but I just want to make sure that people are aware of a few things: 1. Just because you volunteer with a shelter/rescue, does not necessarily mean that you can draw upon their resources! 2. All the rescues/shelters in this area that I'm familar with are *constantly* working at capacity and sometimes over. You can call them and explain the situation until you're blue in the face. As much empathy as the shelter volunteer has for your situation and whether or not the cat is a stray or owner turn-in, it won't create open space. 3. Sometimes you can't take cats in yourself because of your own situation! I know I couldn't take in a stray - my situation (with the cats themselves and just in general) simply won't allow it. I think all any of us can do is what we can, to the best of our ability. I know a lot of times it doesn't seem like nearly enough. CP - you might want to try contacting Friends for Life (http://www.azfriends.org/), if you haven't already. I'm sure they're at capacity, too, but they may be able to direct you somewhere else that you haven't thought of. Also, have you thought of posting a "Home Needed" notice at your vet or the local PetsMart/Petco? NP. I love cats and it is my hope to save as many as possible. Friends For Life was one of the ones contacted but I don't believe they have room. I understand all too well that just because you help a shelter you can't always draw upon their resources. I know one that switched their policy on strays and was informed that they now takes cats from Animal Control's New Hope Program and the even the Arizona Humane Society. This was one of the shelters Cat Galaxy works with and we hope to establish relationships with others around the Valley. It saddens me that so many will just dump their cats off to fend for themselves. The two I mentioned were reported to me by the apartment complex management and they stated that the cats have been on their own for quite a while. One of them apparently for the last two years. I am remaining optomistic though in getting the two felines to a shelter. I am still awaiting word from a couple of them to see if they have space for these felines. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "wildwestcats" <wildwestcats@yahoo.com> wrote in message > CP, > > I just wanted to say thank you for trying to do what you can with [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Also, have you thought of posting a "Home Needed" notice at your vet > or the local PetsMart/Petco? |
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