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Oh, no.  Kitty has to go.

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Mitch@hotmail.com - 06 Dec 2003 13:58 GMT
After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
I'm already on allergy medication.

My neighbor will take her in, but says she will declaw her on day one.
So I don't want that.

But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.
Mary - 06 Dec 2003 14:29 GMT
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
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>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.

Mitch. Ever heard of allergy medicine? I have two cats, am allergic to
cats, and take Claritin (over-the-counter) and am just fine.

Either you want the cat or you don't. I'm really getting sick of this
crap.
Mary - 06 Dec 2003 14:34 GMT
> > After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> > I'm already on allergy medication.
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> Either you want the cat or you don't. I'm really getting sick of this
> crap.

Get one that works for animal dander allergies. Ask you doctor.

Or take the cat to a no-kill shelter along with copies of the entire
saga as posted to this group.

And for God's sake don't tell us if you send her to some *sshole who
will declaw.
Luvskats00 - 06 Dec 2003 20:59 GMT
rosefan@email.com writes

>...Ever heard of allergy medicine? I >have two cats, am allergic to
>cats, and take Claritin (over-the-counter) and am just fine.

Where'd you get your medical degree, Mary? The med school charter should be
verified. FYI, not everyone's ailments, allergies, illnesses are remedied by
medications. I have allergies which have not been fixed by Allegra, Claritin,
Flonaise, etc. Thankfully, I'm not allergic to cats, but I have been to various
allergists with limited results. So...everyone reacts differently. I'd never
part with my babies..unless my lungs collapsed and I had to choose between life
on a respirator and my babies.
Mary - 06 Dec 2003 22:34 GMT
> rosefan@email.com writes
>
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> Where'd you get your medical degree, Mary? The med school charter should be
> verified. my babies

Not the point. Point is, animal dander allergies can be successfully
treated without removing the source of the allergen. Not rocket
science, no voodoo involved. Anyone who has had the allergy tests and
swelled at the site where cat dander was introduced can take medicine
to counter the effects.

The subpoint: Mitch already knows all of this.

I'm beginning to suspect that Mitch either

a. does not really want this cat, since at the first sign of any
difficulty he decides that "Kitty has to go" and/or

b. is enjoying jerking the cat lovers around, as in, "I might give her
to a neighbor who will declaw."

And by the way, PISS OFF.

:-)
Luvskats00 - 07 Dec 2003 01:55 GMT
"Mary" rosefan@email.com
writes

<luvskats00@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20031206155921.26118.00000306@mb-m06.aol.com...
>> rosefan@email.com writes
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>swelled at the site where cat dander was introduced can take medicine
>to counter the effects.

The point, subpoint, and any other point is that you are stating that all
allergies to cat dander are magically controlled by medication. I have not read
that in any journal nor did my allergy doc - who was last seen 10 days ago -
disclose that to me. We talk turkey (allergy related advancements each visit).
If he doesn't know of this magical development, then you certainly don't have
the accurate info.
Mitch@hotmail.com - 10 Dec 2003 04:54 GMT
>Either you want the cat or you don't. I'm really getting sick of this
>crap.

Mary, by all means, killfile me as I have just killfiled you.

You are *the* stereotype "crazy cat lady."
The one everybody envisions......the lonely, nasty, rude, perhaps
hygenically-impaired, newspaper-collecting cat-lady.

***GOODBYE!***  
I will see none of your responses.
Mary - 10 Dec 2003 06:54 GMT
> >Either you want the cat or you don't. I'm really getting sick of this
> >crap.
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> ***GOODBYE!***
> I will see none of your responses.

Guess I hit a nerve.

:-)
Mary - 10 Dec 2003 07:00 GMT
> >Either you want the cat or you don't. I'm really getting sick of this
> >crap.
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> ***GOODBYE!***
> I will see none of your responses.

Meanwhile, you got a lot of other responses, Mitch. Lots of nice
people here gave you the benefit of the doubt, and more. I look
forward to your responses. I never killfile. It shows a lack of self
discipline.

Now then, I'm off to my bi-yearly bath. I've been cataloging my
newspaper collection, and you know how messy that can be. Of course,
it usually doesn't matter, since I live alone and never see anyone
except when I venture out to get my food stamps. Got to feeeeeeed the
kitties, you know ... cackle cackle cackle ....

:)
Christine Burel - 06 Dec 2003 14:44 GMT
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
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>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.

Mitch,  I don't know how severe your symptoms are but we also have
allergies/asthma in our family.  While my daughter does have some allergy to
cats she has much worse allergies to pollen.  What's the pollen count right
now in your area?  (Go to www.pollen.com and you can sign up for this as an
email alert.)  Also, it's winter and the wood smoke in our city from
fireplaces is a definite problem, so bad, in fact, that the city has
allocated "burn and no-burn" days.  In other words, you could have several
factors here.  Also, living in Albuquerque, we have a major dust here and
that also is a factor.

What really has helped our family a lot is to get HEPA air cleaners for the
bedrooms and we also got one for our den area. Initially our allergist
recommended them; HEPA filters remove something like 98% of all airborn
pollutants from the air.  You can get them at Target plus their replacement
filters (We have the Holmes and Environcaire brands).  They do cost but are
extremely worth it and would be beneficial for your allergies in any case.
In the past, our insurance company paid for one for my son when the doctor
said he needed to have one in his bedroom; don't know if that would work for
you.

After all you've gone through to help this poor kitty, try and see if any of
these suggestions may help you. Worst case and you have to find a home for
her, do the right thing and find her someone who is patient, kind, will not
declaw -- you know what to do...

In any case, lots of encouragement and purrs from our family for you to be
able to work this situation out .
hope this helps,
Christine Burel
Judy F - 06 Dec 2003 15:28 GMT
I have severe allergies to my three cats. I went to the allergist and he
recommended Clarinex, a steroidal nasal spray like Flonase, an air filter
with a hepa filter, and encasing of my mattress and pillows. When I did all
these things, ALL my symptoms disappeared! Hope you can give it a try and
not give your cat to that inhuman neighbor. Good luck
Judy F

> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
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>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.
PawsForThought - 06 Dec 2003 15:51 GMT
>From: Mitch@hotmail.com

>After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
>I'm already on allergy medication.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.

Please don't give the cat to your neighbor if they're going to digit amputate
her.  As to your allergies, if you're game to try a natural remedy, this has
worked wonders on my husband's allergies to cats  He uses the animal dander
one.  You can buy this at most any health food store or a Whole Foods:

http://www.bioallers.com/

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
~*SooZy*~ - 06 Dec 2003 16:13 GMT
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.

try the tablets suggested in the other posts, also bath the cat on a regular
basis helps too, well it worked for a friend of mine anyway.

don't let the neighbour have her and declaw her!! why would she want to do
that?
Annie Wxill - 07 Dec 2003 01:39 GMT
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.
Mitch,
Regarding allergies, I hope that you will not give up until you try the
suggestions made elsewhere on this post.  Meanwhile, please print out the
declaw information you saw earlier and show it to your neighbor so that she
will understand what the procedure is and why it is not only cruel, but is
also unnecessary.
Annie
Ray Ban - 07 Dec 2003 15:09 GMT
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> But I won't be able to live all winter this miserable.

Mitch, it's clear you're not a cat-lover. If you're truly a cat-lover,
you wouldn't complain about a trivial thing such as severe allergies.
Suck it up. Get good HEPA air filter and air purifiers (prepare to
initally spend about $500 for the really good ones plus about $70 for
filter changes every 6 months or so).
Mary - 07 Dec 2003 16:29 GMT
> > After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> > I'm already on allergy medication.
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> you wouldn't complain about a trivial thing such as severe allergies.
> Suck it up.

Heh. You are my kinda guy. What's a little suffering
in the name of love? I SLEEP with one of my cats. I would sleep
with both of them, but they are territorial with one another. Sometimes,
when I just cannot help it, I bury my face in Cheeky's fur and kiss her
tummy and roll all around with her and her toys. Then I get into the
shower to wash away most of the allergens before I swell up.
kaeli - 08 Dec 2003 13:43 GMT
> Mitch, it's clear you're not a cat-lover. If you're truly a cat-lover,
> you wouldn't complain about a trivial thing such as severe allergies.
> Suck it up. Get good HEPA air filter and air purifiers (prepare to
> initally spend about $500 for the really good ones plus about $70 for
> filter changes every 6 months or so).

Says someone who declaws to save his furniture.

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Laura R. - 07 Dec 2003 19:31 GMT
circa Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:58:37 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Mitch@hotmail.com (Mitch@hotmail.com) said,
> After all this, my allergies have re-awakened.  Severely.
> I'm already on allergy medication.

Then change the environment, and not by ditching the cat. Try
different medications. Vacuum frequently. Get rid of carpeting. Get
HEPA filters. Seal the mattress and pillows you sleep on with anti-
allergen coverings. Wipe the kitty down with a damp washcloth weekly,
or even daily.

I am severely allergic to cats, and I've still managed to live my
whole life having them. The benefits I receive from my cats FAR
outweigh the work of managing my allergies.

I think I'm going to go take a nap with my cats now.

Laura
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Sherry - 07 Dec 2003 20:02 GMT
>Then change the environment, and not by ditching the cat. Try
>different medications. Vacuum frequently. Get rid of carpeting. Get
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>
>Laura
I know I sound like a broken record, but I swear, people, this extra housework
/ HEPA filter stuff works. Vacuum, vacuum, vacuum, buy that HEPA and start
trying allergy meds. Keep the cat out of the room you sleep in also helped our
allergy kid.

Sherry
 
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