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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2003Garlic as flea repellant? (or, "o/~Smelly cat, smelly cat.... o/~ )
Sorry, couldn't resist. While at the vet last night with a handful (!) of ten week old kittens, one thing we discussed was the idea of using more natural means of treating the kids' more common maladies - and amongst these, there was one I heard about a while ago about feeding cats garlic. (The one about mites and peanut oil came up to, but the viability of that strikes me as questionable.) Now, granted that if you or I eat garlic frequently, it'll keep *everybody* away, but what about fleas on cats? Has anyone ever done any testing on this as to how effective it is?  SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- > Sorry, couldn't resist. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > *everybody* away, but what about fleas on cats? Has anyone ever done any > testing on this as to how effective it is? I know a woman who does this to reduce shedding but I've heard garlic is bad for cats. Karen >From: Karen kchuplis@alltelPOP.netGOAWAY >> Sorry, couldn't resist. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >for cats. >Karen I've read that it's bad too but they were talking about feeding a good portion of it I think. Maybe in very small amounts it would be ok, but since it's supposed to build up, I don't know. I stay away from it. I know in my raw feeding list people who let their cats outdoors say that since being on a raw diet their cats don't get fleas. My cats are indoors only so I've never had a problem. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >Sorry, couldn't resist. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >*everybody* away, but what about fleas on cats? Has anyone ever done any >testing on this as to how effective it is? Read Dr. Noxon's page for an overview of fleas and recommendations. He is an animal dermatologist at Iowa State. <http://www.vetmed.iastate.edu/services/vth/clinical/derm/flea/fleaold.html#fleaf leacontrol> He has this to say about garlic, "Garlic has not been shown to consistently repel fleas (despite the evidence that garlic has many beneficial effects in humans)". There is a chapter there on natural products for flea control ( Natural FCPs) that you might find educational. If cost is a factor, you might do what many people with multiple cats do, and buy the large dog size Advantage or Revolution and split it. It costs the same no matter what size you buy. You pull it out of the container with a syringe and then dispose of the needle. I use about .05cc/lb of Advantage. That's just a drop for a kitten. One 4 cc large-dog size will do all my 8 cats over 10 lbs. Advantage Dosage instructions are here: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:-1Pq3z90c8wJ:www.petsitters.com/pdffile/adv 1.pdf+advantage+fleas+dosage&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 For Revolution you need between .025 and .05 ml/lb. http://www.revolutionvet.com/prescribing.htm#CAUTION BarB >For Revolution you need between .025 and .05 ml/lb. >http://www.revolutionvet.com/prescribing.htm#CAUTION I should mention that the big-dog sizes of Revolution are twice the potency of the cat sizes (120mg/cc as opposed to 60 mg/cc for the cat product). If anyone has been using Revolution for cats, they will need half as much if they use the large dog product. >BarB I used to feed garlic to my dog in an attempt to keep fleas away. I'm not sure about the fleas but it certainly seemed to keep ticks from hanging on for days. She stank ALL THE TIME though and in the end I stopped giving it her because the house started to smell like a pizzaria! Jeannie > Sorry, couldn't resist. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. > ------------------------------------+------------------------------- No, No, No... DDO NOT EVER GIVE GARLIC TO CATS! VERY TOXIC! I work at a 24 hour veterinary emergency hospital & have seen several cats die from hemolytic anemia caused by the ingestion of garlic or onions... the following are excerpts from veterinary texts: "The use of garlic, as well as onions, shallots, and chives, has been shown to cause damage to feline red blood cells which can result in hemolytic anemia and eventual death. Raw garlic and onions can also cause ulcers and irritation of the mouth, esophagus and stomach." "The use of garlic and other members of the Lily family such as onions, shallots, and chives in the cat's diet is not advised. Ingestion of these plants in a raw, cooked, or dried form can lead to damage of the red blood cells, which are rejected by the body from the bloodstream, and a continued use of garlic or onions can eventually result in hemolytic anemia. If the anemia is not controlled by discontinuing the use of the plants, it can potentially lead to death. Less significant but important is that raw garlic and onions irritate the mouth, esophagus, and stomach and can cause or exacerbate ulcers." You forgot to mention that human baby food (which many cat owners feed to their cats) frequently contains onion powder. > No, No, No... DDO NOT EVER GIVE GARLIC TO CATS! VERY TOXIC! > I work at a 24 hour veterinary emergency hospital & have seen several cats die from hemolytic anemia caused by the ingestion of garlic or onions... the following are excerpts from veterinary texts: > > "The use of garlic, as well as onions, shallots, and chives, has been shown to cause damage to feline red blood cells which can result in hemolytic anemia and eventual death. Raw garlic and onions can also cause ulcers and irritation of the mouth, esophagus and stomach." > > "The use of garlic and other members of the Lily family such as onions, shallots, and chives in the cat's diet is not advised. Ingestion of these plants in a raw, cooked, or dried form can lead to damage of the red blood cells, which are rejected by the body from the bloodstream, and a continued use of garlic or onions can eventually result in hemolytic anemia. If the anemia is not controlled by discontinuing the use of the plants, it can potentially lead to death. Less significant but important is that raw garlic and onions irritate the mouth, esophagus, and stomach and can cause or exacerbate ulcers." No, No, No... DDO NOT EVER GIVE GARLIC TO CATS! VERY TOXIC! I work at a 24 hour veterinary emergency hospital & have seen several cats die from hemolytic anemia caused by the ingestion of garlic or onions... the following are excerpts from veterinary texts: "The use of garlic, as well as onions, shallots, and chives, has been shown to cause damage to feline red blood cells which can result in hemolytic anemia and eventual death. Raw garlic and onions can also cause ulcers and irritation of the mouth, esophagus and stomach." "The use of garlic and other members of the Lily family such as onions, shallots, and chives in the cat's diet is not advised. Ingestion of these plants in a raw, cooked, or dried form can lead to damage of the red blood cells, which are rejected by the body from the bloodstream, and a continued use of garlic or onions can eventually result in hemolytic anemia. If the anemia is not controlled by discontinuing the use of the plants, it can potentially lead to death. Less significant but important is that raw garlic and onions irritate the mouth, esophagus, and stomach and can cause or exacerbate ulcers." |
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