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Crushing Methimazole?

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Tony Toon - 02 Dec 2003 08:39 GMT
We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.

She takes 5mg of Methimazole twice daily, or at least is supposed to.
The old cats are chasing and fighting her constantly, so she won't let
anybody get near her, and despite our best efforts, every taking of
the pill is a total struggle.

Anyways, does anybody know if Methimazole is safe to crush and put in
say, baby food? That'd make it much easier and less traumatic for
everybody involved.

I figured I'd try here before calling a vet, since I don't even know
if vets will dispense free advice to a non-client.
Phil P. - 02 Dec 2003 10:23 GMT
> We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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> I figured I'd try here before calling a vet, since I don't even know
> if vets will dispense free advice to a non-client.

Methimazole is a human antithyroid drug (Tapazole).  Ask your local
pharmacist to reformulate the prescription into a flavored suspension
solution.

Phil
-L. - 02 Dec 2003 20:41 GMT
> > We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> > moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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>
> Phil

There is a veterinary pharmacy in So. CA that makes an edible Tapazole
treat.  I will see if I can come up with the name of it and post it.

-L.
taodave - 02 Dec 2003 21:17 GMT
> > > We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> > > moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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>
> -L.

Tapazole tabs are very tiny. When Audrey needed therapy (she has since
been zapped with RAI), I poked the tab into the center of a
soft-centered treat---that pillow-shaped hairball preventive one,
IIRC--- and she gobbled it down without knowing the pill was in there.
Sometimes one can outsmart their cat. Not often, but sometimes.

One of my neighbors, by the way, was unsuccessful with a flavored
suspension. Hiding the pill in a soft-centered treat did the trick for
her also.

David Lobdell
Simple Country Pathologist
m. L. Briggs - 02 Dec 2003 21:44 GMT
>> > > We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
>> > > moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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>David Lobdell
>Simple Country Pathologist
I haven't seen any soft-centered treats.  Would you tell the name?
Thanks.   MLB
taodave - 03 Dec 2003 04:35 GMT
> >> > > We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> >> > > moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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> I haven't seen any soft-centered treats.  Would you tell the name?
> Thanks.   MLB

I believe I used "Pounce Hairball Treats," available in most U.S.
supermarkets and pet stores in a cylindrical cardboard container.

David Lobdell
Simple Country Pathologist
m. L. Briggs - 03 Dec 2003 05:51 GMT
>> >> > > We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
>> >> > > moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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>David Lobdell
>Simple Country Pathologist
Thanks!   MLB
MacCandace - 03 Dec 2003 02:49 GMT
<< Methimazole is a human antithyroid drug (Tapazole).  Ask your local
pharmacist to reformulate the prescription into a flavored suspension
solution.

Phil >>

Maybe I'm confused but isn't there a cream that can be made from tapazole (by a
compounding pharmacy) that is then rubbed onto the cat's ears and absorbed?  It
seems as though someone on this newsgroup mentioned it once because their cat
was having side effects from oral tapazole.  Although I would think it would be
difficult to appropriately monitor the dosage when used in this way but better
than the cat not getting it at all by pill form.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Sheri - 05 Dec 2003 05:06 GMT
maccandace@aol.comlitter (MacCandace) wrote in message news:<

> Maybe I'm confused but isn't there a cream that can be made from tapazole (by a
> compounding pharmacy) that is then rubbed onto the cat's ears and absorbed?  It
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>
> Candace

Candace --- My cat Peaches throws up pills. He has the weakest
stomach. I get his tapazole put in an ointment that is rubbed in his
ear twice a day (wearinga latex glove so I don't absorb the medicine).
This prescription is done by a local compounding pharmacy. It's more
expensive because it took a higher dosage of the medicine to regulate
the thyroid, but not having to give a cat a pill every day is
priceless.

Sheri
MacCandace - 06 Dec 2003 01:17 GMT
<< This prescription is done by a local compounding pharmacy. It's more
expensive because it took a higher dosage of the medicine to regulate
the thyroid, but not having to give a cat a pill every day is
priceless.

Sheri >>

I visualized a MasterCard commercial when I read your last sentence.  Thanks, I
knew I heard it somewhere.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Sheri - 07 Dec 2003 00:36 GMT
> << This prescription is done by a local compounding pharmacy. It's more
> expensive because it took a higher dosage of the medicine to regulate
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> Candace
> (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

Yes, I'll admit to a bit of plagiarism on that one:-)

I always like to tell people about other options for getting medicine
into a cat. I prefer anything over a pill. The ear ointment is the
easiest for the thyroid problem. When it comes to other ailments, I'll
always ask for liquid if available. One time the vet even sent me home
with a bunch of needles to give the cat shots because pilling had
become impossible. It was  a lot easier to pull the skin up and
administer a shot that the cat barely felt rather than ram a bunch of
pills down his throat.

Sheri
Cathy Friedmann - 07 Dec 2003 00:41 GMT
> One time the vet even sent me home
> with a bunch of needles to give the cat shots because pilling had
> become impossible. It was  a lot easier to pull the skin up and
> administer a shot that the cat barely felt rather than ram a bunch of
> pills down his throat.

Yes, yes.  When I gave my late cat Debbie Procrit shots, they were an
absolute piece of cake, compared to pilling.  And that's saying something,
because as cats go, she was very easy to pill (thank goodness, because she
got as minimum of 4 pills/day her last 5 years, due to a liver ailment &
then CRF).  I could give her a Procrit shot while she was napping & she'd
have no clue I'd administered it; blissful ignorance.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
Cathy Friedmann - 02 Dec 2003 21:36 GMT
I am *guessing* that it can be crushed, simply because I am presently taking
it at the dose of 2.5 mg/day - so I split the tabs in half.   Otoh, I have
no idea if they're bitter or not - since I never let the tablet dissolve
before swallowing.  If bitter, that would -really- put her off the idea of
taking it.  Hang on...

Just tasted/chewed ? of a tab; I could detect no flavor whatsoever.

I assume that you're going to soon become a client of the vet's, due to
adopting this cat (plus you mention having older cats)?  A phone call
couldn't hurt - the worst they could do would be to ignore your call.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon

> We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I figured I'd try here before calling a vet, since I don't even know
> if vets will dispense free advice to a non-client.
Helen - 03 Dec 2003 11:33 GMT
> We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
> moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I figured I'd try here before calling a vet, since I don't even know
> if vets will dispense free advice to a non-client.

You have various options for giving the drug, such as via gelcaps or by
having it compounded by a compounding pharmacy:

http://www.felinecrf.org/medications_and_supplies.htm#TIGM

You do need to work with a vet to ensure this girl has the best care though.

I'm more concerned by your comment about this poor cat being harrassed by
your other cats. Did you introduce them properly? Cats are territorial, and
if you don't introduce them properly, it's extremely stressful for them. If
the fighting continues, you could end up having to pay the vet to clean up
abscesses. Here's some info on introducing cats properly:

http://www.catsinternational.org/articles/getting_a_cat/good_introduction.ht
ml

HTH

Helen
Anne Droid - 03 Dec 2003 23:10 GMT
>> We recently got a third kitty, a middle-aged one from my sister. She
>> moved to England recently, and can't take the cat with her.
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>
>HTH

I used a pill grinder and mixed the powder in liquid around the food -
liquid from canned cat food -- fed the food to my colony.  This worked
for 5 - 6 years until she passed away.

Anne

>Helen
 
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