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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2003my cat keeps bringing home dead animals
I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. Actually, it's quite an honour to receive these little presents as it means the cat is trying to share it's food with you but, if you don't like it, I don't think there's anything you can do about it to be honest. Our cats used to bring half dead animals into the house and then proceed to torture them to death. Nature's cruel and that's just the way cats are. Short of keeping the cat in all the time, there's no way to take the hunting instinct out of the cat as far as I know. Jeannie > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great > for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles > and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it > is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great > for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles > and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it > is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. You're lucky to have the pest control. Our neighborhood used to have 3 outdoor cats but they've all left and now I'm having terrible problems with indoor mice. > > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 3 outdoor cats but they've all left and now I'm having terrible > problems with indoor mice. (g).. Do you not have your own cat/cats to take care of them? ?laine >> You're lucky to have the pest control. Our neighborhood used to have >> 3 outdoor cats but they've all left and now I'm having terrible >> problems with indoor mice. > >(g).. Do you not have your own cat/cats to take care of them? I have indoor cats. We live 10 yards from a highway, so I'm not willing to let my cats outdoors. > >> You're lucky to have the pest control. Our neighborhood used to have > >> 3 outdoor cats but they've all left and now I'm having terrible [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have indoor cats. We live 10 yards from a highway, so I'm not > willing to let my cats outdoors. Its not what I meant. Don't they hunt inside the house? You did say the mice were indoors no? I have two good hunters but I still have to put traps in those hard to reach areas. If it triggers, my male cat is the first one to check it out. Elaine >> >> You're lucky to have the pest control. Our neighborhood used to have >> >> 3 outdoor cats but they've all left and now I'm having terrible [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Its not what I meant. Don't they hunt inside the house? You did say the >mice were indoors no? I prefered having it taken care of outside, before the mice ever reach my house! Just because my cats need exercise doesn't mean I want to provide live PE trainers for them. I can't wait to get the cat litter and scratch-trained. There's at least one mouse creeping around here. Traps haven't got it yet, but I know Lucy will. have you tried a collar with a bell? :) sham126 > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great > for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles > and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it > is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great > for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles > and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it > is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. Hi , You could try limiting the times you're cat is allowed out. Cats tend to catch more prey from dawn to dusk but it sounds like you have a real hunter on your hands. I wonder how s/he catches the moles? Alison > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great > for the animals around it. It brings home, dead birds, rabbits, moles > and mice. I know it is only doing what it believes is right, but it > is very upsetting to find these dead animals on my doorstep. The common belief is that these are gifts to you. I have heard a different view -- the dead animals are a training aid. Your cat is simply trying to teach you how to hunt. The sequence is always the same -- #1, bring you a dead meal, which is supposed to be eaten. After this step comes #2, where the cat will bring half-dead prey to you, which you're supposed to kill and eat. We humans are sooooo stupid, however! It must be eternally frustrating to our cats, that we never ever get beyond step #1. > > I live in the country and my cat is left to roam free amoungst the > > fields, although i think this is great for the cat it is not so great [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > We humans are sooooo stupid, however! It must be eternally frustrating > to our cats, that we never ever get beyond step #1. Fascinating! Does this explain why my Cheeky keeps bringing me the rubber snake? She is a housecat, and she fusses over it, howls over it, then picks it up in her teeth and brings it to me whereever I may be. If I am not in the house she brings it to my office or my bed. She loves this game! Mary <rosefan@email.com> quoth: >Fascinating! Does this explain why my Cheeky keeps bringing me the >rubber snake? She is a housecat, and she fusses over it, howls over >it, then picks it up in her teeth and brings it to me whereever I may >be. If I am not in the house she brings it to my office or my bed. She >loves this game! When my cats bring me "prey" they've "killed" (they're totally indoor and over-indulged in toys), I always praise them as might hunters. ;-) Priscilla Priscilla H Ballou <phb@shell01.theworld.com> quoth: >Mary <rosefan@email.com> quoth: >>Fascinating! Does this explain why my Cheeky keeps bringing me the >>rubber snake? She is a housecat, and she fusses over it, howls over >>it, then picks it up in her teeth and brings it to me whereever I may >>be. If I am not in the house she brings it to my office or my bed. She >>loves this game! >When my cats bring me "prey" they've "killed" (they're totally indoor and >over-indulged in toys), I always praise them as might hunters. ;-) Errrr, make that "mighty hunters." Priscilla > Priscilla H Ballou <phb@shell01.theworld.com> quoth: > >Mary <rosefan@email.com> quoth: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Errrr, make that "mighty hunters." I do too, that's why Cheeks does this, like, ten times a day. It is hilarious when we are downstairs with company in the living room. You hear her start "announcing" that she has captured her prey wayyyyyy upstairs, then she kind of gurgles her way downstairs as it is apparently hard to crow with a rubber snake in one's mouth. (This is a cat that has trouble keeping up to 7 pounds, a lovely pale grey mackeral tabby with the clearest light green eyes and white around her mouth so you can see her Felix smile!) Then she zooms past, loping like a lion, and drops it at my feet in the living room, and continues on!. :-) Like "who WAS that masked cat!" :-) What toys does your baby bring you? Cheeks only brings the snake and a rubber lizard, none of the other toys will do. > Priscilla Does anyone here have a policy with Veterinary Pet Insurance? They advertise (all of the paperwork I have from them) a 5-business day turnaround time. They have had my claim now for a month (medical records received two weeks ago, since I just took out the policy in August), and every time I call I get a longer projection of when I'll get my reimbursement.....I'm about ready to call the attorney general's office in their state. I had a policy with them about seven years ago and was very pleased. Anyone with them? Thanks, ava afr afr@efn.org writes >Does anyone here have a policy with Veterinary Pet Insurance? >They advertise (all of the paperwork I have from them) a 5-business day >turnaround time. They have had my claim now for a month (medical records >received two weeks ago..... >every time I call I get a longer projection of when I'll get my >reimbursement..... What excuse do they provide on why they keep stalling? What do they say when you point to the advertised 5-day turnaround - which should be legally binding? Instead of talking to a low-level rep, get a supervisor on the line. Keep us posted. They tell me they are installing a new computer system. Eleven days ago I said I wanted to talk to a supervisor, and I did. Now she is dodging my messages!!!!! ava > afr afr@efn.org writes > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Instead of talking to a low-level rep, get a supervisor on the line. Keep us > posted. >From: afr afr@efn.org >They tell me they are installing a new computer system. Eleven days ago I >said I wanted to talk to a supervisor, and I did. Now she is dodging my >messages!!!!! I wouldn't waste any more time with them then. I would contact whatever department handles that in your state. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Would it be the Better Business Bureau and Atty General in CA (their state) or my state? We have a very aggressive consumer-oriented atty general in Minnesota. Can he intervene with a company in California? Today, I got an email requesting my medical records....arrgggggg. I mailed them a year's worth 3 weeks ago, which were acknowledged as received two weeks ago. The woman called me today and left a voicemail saying the claim will probably be completed by Friday..that there was a slight lapse in the medical records..I have NO IDEA what they are talking about. She said, if the claims supervisor felt he needed more info, she'd call me or my vet. They photocopied every frigging thing in their office on this cat. ava > >From: afr afr@efn.org > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >From: afr afr@efn.org >Would it be the Better Business Bureau and Atty General in CA (their >state) or my state? We have a very aggressive consumer-oriented atty [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >ava I've never dealt with pet insurance before. You could try contacting your own state's department first, tell them the situation and see what they recommend. I know in my state we have a department of consumer and industry services, so I would imagine you'd have something similar there. I would think though that you might have to contact the department in the state in which the insuance company does business. It would also be interesting to find out whether or not they've had complaints about them before. I think if it were me, I would at least give them till Friday to see if they do in fact complete your claim. You could also try calling or emailing them and telling them that if your claim is not processed in a timely manner, that you will have no choice but to seek alternate action via your attorney. Maybe that will get the ball rolling, so to speak. Good luck! Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > Would it be the Better Business Bureau and Atty General in CA (their > state) or my state? We have a very aggressive consumer-oriented atty > general in Minnesota. Can he intervene with a company in California? Their state - start with the insurance licensing board. -L. >> Would it be the Better Business Bureau and Atty General in CA (their >> state) or my state? We have a very aggressive consumer-oriented atty >> general in Minnesota. Can he intervene with a company in California? > >Their state - start with the insurance licensing board. No, the OP should contact his own state. The location of the company's head office is irrelevant. To sell insurance in his state they must be licensed by his state. And his state has the power to levy sanctions against them, regardless of where they are located, up to and including the right to pull their license to sell insurance in the state. Each state is organized somewhat differently, but the department to call is usually called the Insurance Department or something close to that, not the attorney general. You can probably find the correct department just by searching through the state's main web site. Or just call any local insurance agent. -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. PS I tried to call the man who emailed me, and they said that he doesn't receive phone calls from customers--only email. :) ava > >From: afr afr@efn.org > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I've had EXCELLENT experience with VPI paying claims with 2 unfortunate kitty illness. The most important thing is to spell things out. Submit your claim with copies of the Vet's chart notes w\ each page initialed by the Vet Go through you Vet Bill and compare it to the VPI Policy coverage and write down the DX\Claims code & repayment scheduled amount for each charge. They have paid better than my own medical insurance in a very timely manner. >Does anyone here have a policy with Veterinary Pet Insurance? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >ava > Go through you Vet Bill and compare it to the VPI Policy coverage and > write down the DX\Claims code & repayment scheduled amount for each > charge. Are you referring to the list of illnesses and what they pay that is mailed to you with your coverage? I don't see anything for rechecks, and it looks like the amount allotted for each illness is quite small--if you are referring to the literature mailed to me when I took out the policy. Also, it sounds like you have a very cooperative veterinarian. > They have paid better than my own medical insurance in a very timely > manner. How fast did you get reimbursed? It's been a month, and when I try to get clear information it's nearly impossible. I finally found a woman working on my behalf. She said that since I just took out the policy in August, it is going through a claims review process--they want to be sure there was no pre-existing condition. What's weird to me, is that she said she read in the computer that there is a time gap between 8/02 and9/02. He was innoculated in 8/02. Who takes a cat to a vet two months in a row? It makes absolutely no sense to me. So, I;m sending in a note from that hospital stating they didn't see george in october. I'm glad you've had a good experience with them, but mine has been mass chaos. They keep telling me they mailed a letter two me 16 days ago now, and it has never arrived. ava > >Does anyone here have a policy with Veterinary Pet Insurance? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > >ava Just be grateful the animals are dead and not being let loose to run around your kitchen! This happens in my house on a regular basis. > > wright_915@hotmail.com (jacqueline wright) wrote in message > news:<247fc43a.0312010658.4395c17e@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > be. If I am not in the house she brings it to my office or my bed. She > loves this game! Consider yourself lucky! Your cat is spending a lot of time and energy teaching you how to hunt and forage for your food! Such sacrifice, even if it's too often misunderstood by these verrrry slow-witted humans. |
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