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BOURGEOIS4607 - 30 Nov 2003 09:39 GMT
I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
breeds and types of cats.
Thanks
Luvskats00 - 30 Nov 2003 13:41 GMT
Bourgeois4607@rogers.com writes

>I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
>They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
>calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
>breeds and types of cats.

Cats - like humans - all behave differently.  Even cats from the same litter
have different personalities.  Certain breeds exhibit specific behaviors
typical of that breed, however.
Kalyahna - 30 Nov 2003 14:41 GMT
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise
rather crabby. Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat
exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's
become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very
relaxed and mellow and calm about handling. I don't think I've ever heard a
stereotype for black cats, though... except that they shouldn't be adopted
out to anyone around Halloween, for the safety of the cat.

Is anyone else here (shelter-related, aka volunteer or employee) being
overrun by black cats recently? I swear, we have at least ten black cats up
for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the
sweetest cross-eyed boys, too).
ChakaShiva - 30 Nov 2003 21:08 GMT
> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise
> rather crabby.

That is my tortie pretty much spitted out.  She is also always hungry.   She
has now taken on to constant begging since the snow has arrived and there is
nothing better to do.  Especially when I am cooking...  and if I don't pay
attention, nothing is complicated for her..  my leg becomes the best
scratching post around.  It can be cute but not always.
The trait that stands out the most with my black cat I would say is his
perfect loyalty.    He likes my companion, he doesn't mind the other cat or
the dog, but he belongs forever only to me.

Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat
> exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's
> become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the
> sweetest cross-eyed boys, too).
Wendy - 01 Dec 2003 12:00 GMT
The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black &
white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all
black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running
around as our kittens Mom was a tabby.

I've heard that calicos tend to be the way you described them. I've had 2.
The first one was standoffish. Isabelle isn't the "typical" calico. She
seems very affectionate, is turning into a lap cat and loves to mother
Boots. She's friendly to people she doesn't know. They are all unique, like
you said.

> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats
and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise
rather crabby. Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat
exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's
become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very
relaxed and mellow and calm about handling. I don't think I've ever heard a
stereotype for black cats, though... except that they shouldn't be adopted
out to anyone around Halloween, for the safety of the cat.

Is anyone else here (shelter-related, aka volunteer or employee) being
overrun by black cats recently? I swear, we have at least ten black cats up
for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the
sweetest cross-eyed boys, too).
-L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:12 GMT
> The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black &
> white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all
> black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running
> around as our kittens Mom was a tabby.

Black is a dominant color.  People don't want black cats, either.
It's sad, because IMO, and IME, they make the best pets.

-L.
Wendy - 01 Dec 2003 20:49 GMT
Surprisingly our all black kitty was the first to be adopted. No surprise to
me as he was the sweetest. I was going to keep him if he hadn't found a
home. We kept one of the black and white ones. He's a real love bug. The
other B&W one and his tabby sister were adopted together.

> The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black &
> white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all
> black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running
> around as our kittens Mom was a tabby.

Black is a dominant color.  People don't want black cats, either.
It's sad, because IMO, and IME, they make the best pets.

-L.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 16:02 GMT
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

I think it depends more on the personality of each individual cat, rather
than on B&Ws, Vs. oranges, Vs. gray tabbies, Vs. calicos/torties, or what
breed(s) may be in their backgrounds.

However, having said that, my calico has a strong, dual sort of personality
(feisty & head-strong as all get-out, yet very sweet & purry).  Otoh, she's
now 12 & is mellowing out slightly.

I had an all-black LH cat; she was a rather meek & mild cat; the
quintessential lap cat.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
PawsForThought - 30 Nov 2003 17:07 GMT
>From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net

>I think it depends more on the personality of each individual cat, rather
>than on B&Ws, Vs. oranges, Vs. gray tabbies, Vs. calicos/torties, or what
>breed(s) may be in their backgrounds.

When I got my tortie, I was told that they are crabby cats.  Nothing could be
further from the truth with Meesha.  She is the most gentle sweet-natured cat
I've ever had, and a total lap cat.

Lauren
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Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:46 GMT
> >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> further from the truth with Meesha.  She is the most gentle sweet-natured cat
> I've ever had, and a total lap cat.

My dear old baby (about whom you have all heard too much!) who lived
to be 20 was a tortie and both mean and ... well, not exactly bright
or personable ... both when I met her pregnant at 6 months old, then
for the rest of her life. She HATED to be held, and really wasn't wild
about being touched.

Her daughter, also a tortie, was a TOTAL lap cat. She would sleep on
her human and wake her up by kissing her face.
Karen - 30 Nov 2003 17:28 GMT
>> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
>> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> "Staccato signals of constant information..."
> ("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon

I have three black cats. Two are siblings. They are laid back and sweet. The
third looks like a black siamese an dis not related. She is very spicy.
Sweet when she wants to be, easily bored. Pesters the daylights out of the
other two and me when she wants attention. A real character and very vocal.
Totally different personality.

Karen
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:47 GMT
> > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:tViyb.93648$X2W1.63787@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> >> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I have three black cats. Two are siblings. They are laid back and sweet. The
> third looks like a black siamese an dis not related. She is very spicy.

What a great term to use for a spunky cat! I might have to use this
one!
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 16:39 GMT
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

All cats have their own personalities, just like people. They aren't
objects.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 17:30 GMT
> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >
> All cats have their own personalities, just like people.

This makes sense - & I agree w/ it.

>They aren't objects.

No, of course not.  But what I don't get, is why it was said.  IOW - I
didn't see anything in the OP's post that indicated that s/he thinks they
are.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
Sherry - 30 Nov 2003 17:41 GMT
>> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
>> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>This makes sense - & I agree w/ it.

I do too, and I know that coat color doesn't determine personality. But still,
every tuxedo I've had has been really strong-willed. Coincidence, probably.

Shherry
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:54 GMT
> >> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> >> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Sherry

Our tuxedo is hilarious this way. All the cat books say that cats do
not like it if you stare at them. Well, this one, if you hold her an
instant too long for her liking, "stiff arms" you and stares wide-eyed
right in your face with this mean expression on her face like "who the
HELL do you think you ARE?" She says not a word, just keeps her legs
stiff and poking in your chest and stares like a haughty monarch.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 19:42 GMT
> >> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> >> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I do too, and I know that coat color doesn't determine personality. But still,
> every tuxedo I've had has been really strong-willed. Coincidence, probably.

Maybe.  My tuxedo, Herrie, is pretty laid-back.  Esp. when contrasted w/ my
first cat (solid gray) or Demelza, my calico.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:51 GMT
> > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:tViyb.93648$X2W1.63787@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> > > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Cathy

The idea that "certain breeds" have certain fixed personalities
implies a kind of object status in my mind. I wasn't mad when I wrote
it, as I might be if someone posted "I have two neighbors on either
side of me, both Japanese. One is very shy and retiring, always
tinkering with electronics, and a very hard worker. The other one is
loud and flashy, has been on unemployment for two years, and is very
messy. What gives? I thought those Japanese were supposed to be really
hard workers, very polite, and good with electronics. :0)

> --
> "Staccato signals of constant information..."
> ("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 19:40 GMT
> > > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> messy. What gives? I thought those Japanese were supposed to be really
> hard workers, very polite, and good with electronics. :0)

Okay.  Different perceptions.  I see it as stereotyping, but not as
regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given object-like
status.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 20:24 GMT
> Okay.  Different perceptions.  I see it as stereotyping, but not as
> regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given object-like
> status.

Sorry. I'm always leaving out a step in my reasoning/thinking. To
stereotype is to oversimplify to the point of giving a living thing an
object-like status. As though whatever you are, you are simply because
of the matter you are made of, eg your genes/breed.
> Cathy
-L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:16 GMT
> > Okay.  Different perceptions.  I see it as stereotyping, but not as
> > regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> object-like status. As though whatever you are, you are simply because
> of the matter you are made of, eg your genes/breed.

Ah, nature vs. nurture.  You can't deny the nature - genes play a huge
role in a lot of things....even, yes, personality, to some extent, I
think...look at how many adopted children have the talents, likes and
dislikes of their birth parents...

-L.
-L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:11 GMT
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

First, I assume they are moggies.  But YES - black cats have a certain
personality - big, fat babies in a black cat suit - usually talkabtive
and very expressive with their facial features.  Calicos are quirky -
come when *they* want affection, more aloof - bitchy sometimes.  I
have found distinct personalities for many color variants - black and
white tuxedo boys and big orange boys being very sweet - torties being
the Snickers cats - half sweet and half nuts...

-L.
Singer709 - 02 Dec 2003 09:09 GMT
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired.
> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour.  Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other
> breeds and types of cats.
> Thanks

One reason I love cats is that they all have totally different
personalities. I've had a half-dozen cats in my years, and each has
specific behavior and none acts remotely the same as another.
 
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