Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2003
Profound differences of behaviour
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BOURGEOIS4607 - 30 Nov 2003 09:39 GMT I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other breeds and types of cats. Thanks
Luvskats00 - 30 Nov 2003 13:41 GMT Bourgeois4607@rogers.com writes
>I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. >They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and >calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other >breeds and types of cats. Cats - like humans - all behave differently. Even cats from the same litter have different personalities. Certain breeds exhibit specific behaviors typical of that breed, however.
Kalyahna - 30 Nov 2003 14:41 GMT > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and > calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise rather crabby. Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very relaxed and mellow and calm about handling. I don't think I've ever heard a stereotype for black cats, though... except that they shouldn't be adopted out to anyone around Halloween, for the safety of the cat.
Is anyone else here (shelter-related, aka volunteer or employee) being overrun by black cats recently? I swear, we have at least ten black cats up for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the sweetest cross-eyed boys, too).
ChakaShiva - 30 Nov 2003 21:08 GMT > > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise > rather crabby. That is my tortie pretty much spitted out. She is also always hungry. She has now taken on to constant begging since the snow has arrived and there is nothing better to do. Especially when I am cooking... and if I don't pay attention, nothing is complicated for her.. my leg becomes the best scratching post around. It can be cute but not always. The trait that stands out the most with my black cat I would say is his perfect loyalty. He likes my companion, he doesn't mind the other cat or the dog, but he belongs forever only to me.
Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat
> exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's > become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the > sweetest cross-eyed boys, too). Wendy - 01 Dec 2003 12:00 GMT The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black & white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running around as our kittens Mom was a tabby.
I've heard that calicos tend to be the way you described them. I've had 2. The first one was standoffish. Isabelle isn't the "typical" calico. She seems very affectionate, is turning into a lap cat and loves to mother Boots. She's friendly to people she doesn't know. They are all unique, like you said.
> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and
> calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks Often enough, calicos and torties are high-strung, uppity, and otherwise rather crabby. Not all of them, certainly, anymore than every registered cat exhibits every personality trait of their breed, but often enough that it's become a generalization. Orange tabbies have a reputation for being very relaxed and mellow and calm about handling. I don't think I've ever heard a stereotype for black cats, though... except that they shouldn't be adopted out to anyone around Halloween, for the safety of the cat.
Is anyone else here (shelter-related, aka volunteer or employee) being overrun by black cats recently? I swear, we have at least ten black cats up for adoption and another dozen awaiting spay/neuter (three of them the sweetest cross-eyed boys, too).
-L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:12 GMT > The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black & > white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all > black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running > around as our kittens Mom was a tabby. Black is a dominant color. People don't want black cats, either. It's sad, because IMO, and IME, they make the best pets.
-L.
Wendy - 01 Dec 2003 20:49 GMT Surprisingly our all black kitty was the first to be adopted. No surprise to me as he was the sweetest. I was going to keep him if he hadn't found a home. We kept one of the black and white ones. He's a real love bug. The other B&W one and his tabby sister were adopted together.
> The shelters here (PA near Philly) have been overrun with black and black & > white cats this summer. 3 of the 4 kittens we bottle fed were black (1 all > black, 2 B&W) Guess there's a really busy black and white male cat running > around as our kittens Mom was a tabby. Black is a dominant color. People don't want black cats, either. It's sad, because IMO, and IME, they make the best pets.
-L.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 16:02 GMT > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and > calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks I think it depends more on the personality of each individual cat, rather than on B&Ws, Vs. oranges, Vs. gray tabbies, Vs. calicos/torties, or what breed(s) may be in their backgrounds.
However, having said that, my calico has a strong, dual sort of personality (feisty & head-strong as all get-out, yet very sweet & purry). Otoh, she's now 12 & is mellowing out slightly.
I had an all-black LH cat; she was a rather meek & mild cat; the quintessential lap cat.
Cathy
-- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
PawsForThought - 30 Nov 2003 17:07 GMT >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net
>I think it depends more on the personality of each individual cat, rather >than on B&Ws, Vs. oranges, Vs. gray tabbies, Vs. calicos/torties, or what >breed(s) may be in their backgrounds. When I got my tortie, I was told that they are crabby cats. Nothing could be further from the truth with Meesha. She is the most gentle sweet-natured cat I've ever had, and a total lap cat.
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Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:46 GMT > >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > further from the truth with Meesha. She is the most gentle sweet-natured cat > I've ever had, and a total lap cat. My dear old baby (about whom you have all heard too much!) who lived to be 20 was a tortie and both mean and ... well, not exactly bright or personable ... both when I met her pregnant at 6 months old, then for the rest of her life. She HATED to be held, and really wasn't wild about being touched.
Her daughter, also a tortie, was a TOTAL lap cat. She would sleep on her human and wake her up by kissing her face.
Karen - 30 Nov 2003 17:28 GMT >> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. >> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > "Staccato signals of constant information..." > ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon I have three black cats. Two are siblings. They are laid back and sweet. The third looks like a black siamese an dis not related. She is very spicy. Sweet when she wants to be, easily bored. Pesters the daylights out of the other two and me when she wants attention. A real character and very vocal. Totally different personality.
Karen
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:47 GMT > > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tViyb.93648$X2W1.63787@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >> I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > >> They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I have three black cats. Two are siblings. They are laid back and sweet. The > third looks like a black siamese an dis not related. She is very spicy. What a great term to use for a spunky cat! I might have to use this one!
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 16:39 GMT > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and > calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks All cats have their own personalities, just like people. They aren't objects.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 17:30 GMT > > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > All cats have their own personalities, just like people. This makes sense - & I agree w/ it.
>They aren't objects. No, of course not. But what I don't get, is why it was said. IOW - I didn't see anything in the OP's post that indicated that s/he thinks they are.
Cathy
-- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
Sherry - 30 Nov 2003 17:41 GMT >> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. >> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >This makes sense - & I agree w/ it. I do too, and I know that coat color doesn't determine personality. But still, every tuxedo I've had has been really strong-willed. Coincidence, probably.
Shherry
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:54 GMT > >> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > >> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sherry Our tuxedo is hilarious this way. All the cat books say that cats do not like it if you stare at them. Well, this one, if you hold her an instant too long for her liking, "stiff arms" you and stares wide-eyed right in your face with this mean expression on her face like "who the HELL do you think you ARE?" She says not a word, just keeps her legs stiff and poking in your chest and stares like a haughty monarch.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 19:42 GMT > >> > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > >> > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I do too, and I know that coat color doesn't determine personality. But still, > every tuxedo I've had has been really strong-willed. Coincidence, probably. Maybe. My tuxedo, Herrie, is pretty laid-back. Esp. when contrasted w/ my first cat (solid gray) or Demelza, my calico.
Cathy
-- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 18:51 GMT > > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tViyb.93648$X2W1.63787@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > > > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cathy The idea that "certain breeds" have certain fixed personalities implies a kind of object status in my mind. I wasn't mad when I wrote it, as I might be if someone posted "I have two neighbors on either side of me, both Japanese. One is very shy and retiring, always tinkering with electronics, and a very hard worker. The other one is loud and flashy, has been on unemployment for two years, and is very messy. What gives? I thought those Japanese were supposed to be really hard workers, very polite, and good with electronics. :0)
> -- > "Staccato signals of constant information..." > ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Cathy Friedmann - 30 Nov 2003 19:40 GMT > > > "BOURGEOIS4607" <BOURGEOIS4607@rogers.com> wrote in message > > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > messy. What gives? I thought those Japanese were supposed to be really > hard workers, very polite, and good with electronics. :0) Okay. Different perceptions. I see it as stereotyping, but not as regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given object-like status.
Cathy
-- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
Mary - 30 Nov 2003 20:24 GMT > Okay. Different perceptions. I see it as stereotyping, but not as > regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given object-like > status. Sorry. I'm always leaving out a step in my reasoning/thinking. To stereotype is to oversimplify to the point of giving a living thing an object-like status. As though whatever you are, you are simply because of the matter you are made of, eg your genes/breed.
> Cathy -L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:16 GMT > > Okay. Different perceptions. I see it as stereotyping, but not as > > regarding either (the cats or a group of people) as being given [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > object-like status. As though whatever you are, you are simply because > of the matter you are made of, eg your genes/breed. Ah, nature vs. nurture. You can't deny the nature - genes play a huge role in a lot of things....even, yes, personality, to some extent, I think...look at how many adopted children have the talents, likes and dislikes of their birth parents...
-L.
-L. - 01 Dec 2003 18:11 GMT > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and > calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks First, I assume they are moggies. But YES - black cats have a certain personality - big, fat babies in a black cat suit - usually talkabtive and very expressive with their facial features. Calicos are quirky - come when *they* want affection, more aloof - bitchy sometimes. I have found distinct personalities for many color variants - black and white tuxedo boys and big orange boys being very sweet - torties being the Snickers cats - half sweet and half nuts...
-L.
Singer709 - 02 Dec 2003 09:09 GMT > I have a calico cat and a black domestic short haired. > They both have DRAMATICALLY different types of behaviour. Do black cats and > calico cats have dramatically different kinds of behaviours than other > breeds and types of cats. > Thanks One reason I love cats is that they all have totally different personalities. I've had a half-dozen cats in my years, and each has specific behavior and none acts remotely the same as another.
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